Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff - Frank Zappa
AFTER LAST WEEK'S LOOK at the Core i5 750, which showed pretty decent results even without much tuning on the Asus Maximus III Gene mainboard, it was time to try out its faster sibling, the Core i7 870.
Not only does the i7 have a higher base clock at 2.93GHz, but it also has an even higher 5-step Turbo Boost capability with all four cores running all the time at 3.2GHz, assuming your cooling is decent, or one or two cores all the way up to 3.6GHz to accommodate one or two single-threaded applications. And if that's not enough then there's also HyperThreading to consider as well for those who love it, yours truly excluded.

Not bad at all, but how will it perform when tuned up, compared to its cheaper relative, the i5? Well, I used exactly the same setup this time too, except that I slightly tweaked the DRAM timing to CL7-7-7 at DDR3-1600, which Kingston DIMMs do smooth as silk. Also, I upgraded the graphics card to the fabulous Gigabyte GeForce GTX285 OC with 2 GB RAM, which is helpful when running 3D Mark.
Do remember that, unless you use the Nforce bridge, the P55 based mainboards only provide the 1 x PCIe x16 or 2 x PCIe x8 slot options, unlike the X58. On the other hand, they do have reduced latency as the PCIe bridge connects directly to the CPU, which helps a bit. Intel, how about designing a proper 40 PCIe v2 lanes total on the CPU chip next time?
I guess Intel had to play some serious positioning games. If it added the extra PCI lanes into the LGA1156 socket, that would have killed its high end X58 cash cow. Yet I feel that, come Sandy Bridge, it will have to accommodate the higher I/O expandability in the top-end CPU chips, which by then will be those with up to eight cores on the desktop.

(Note - I forgot to type "Core i7" into CPU-Z before running the test pictured above, but did remember to change it to "870". Not the first time nor certainly the last this will happen to us reviewers with this Lynnfield family of Intel processors, no doubt.)
I ran the Core i7 870 CPU in two modes. In the first, I used the auto-recommended 3.52GHz (160MHz base CLK x multiplier 22), which is ready in split seconds without any overclocking knowledge required. It also auto-sets the RAM to DDR3-1600, then it's up to you to play with the latency settings there. And, the CPU is still doing it all at 1.25 volts.

The other setting was a slightly higher clock with DDR3-1667 memory and 3.65GHz clock, where I also ran the 3DMark as well. Note the active Turbo Boost step at this speed setting (167.5 MHz CLK x multiplier 24). I set the CPU voltage up just a bit to 1.27 volts here as well. All the benchmarks were done at this speed.

As you can see, these are very good results, which go a ways into territory previously reserved to the overclocked flavours of the expensive Core i7 975XE, and it's with the fixed multiplier without much tweaking, if any.
The Core i7 870, the CPU chip alone, is nearly thrice the price of the Core i5 750. On the total high end system cost level, that would result in around 15 per cent higher total price, for, yes, around 15 per cent higher total CPU performance. In this respect, if you want the best from the socket 1156, this is not bad.
Now, as said, there's more to it, and we'll be working further to breach the 4GHz barrier with these processors as well. The AMD Phenom II family really has reason to worry here. There is no Phenom II CPU that even remotely comes anywhere near this - let's remember midrange - Core i7. µ
The Good:
Rock solid performance for decent price, low PCIe latency.
The Bad:
I'd have liked 16 more PCIe lanes for full 2 x 16 SLI or Crossfire.
The Ugly:
Intel's pushed AMD behind too far, we need lively competition!
Beers:
9/10

I still think the i5 and i7 chips are overpriced right now and the Asus motherboard certainly is at $250. I will choose a Gigabyte board any day over Asus.
I guess this is aimed at the enthusiast market who have money to burn but the.
The Core i7 870 is priced at $569, ouch.
The i5 are much cheaper and would like to see a comparison against their faster clocked last gen counterparts like the Core 2 E7600 3.06GHz $139.
Good choice on the video card. I run a XFX GTX 285 with a Q9650 on a Gigabyte MOBO and nothing (Games) can touch it at 1920 x 1200.
You're comparing the i7 870 (CDN$ 695 in my city) with the Phenom II 965 ($289, at the same online store). The Phenom is already overkill for my needs. The i7 would serve me better only in one case - compressing DVDs - but I don't do that much and my hard drive is a bottleneck there anyway. No wonder Intel is into SSDs these days - without them the faster CPUs won't really shine.
With Jocular smile, after ALL those years of Screaming, There Arn't Enough Lanes to Support NT6, back in February 2006 calculated it'd be more than 40, more than 64, less than 128. People stopped commenting on My commentos' & called Pindit, Stupid. Now with Pci-e V.2, twice as fast per lane, 40 lanes still isn't enough. in fact: 120 lanes in orig pci-e specs be enough for Eastern Naj.
Ha,Ha. Wouldn't listening & actually reading White Papers be better than TG Daily pic of home builder that has over & over crashed peoples systems if pick it up into system? Cry Babies throw Stuff, Smart People think Out error.
First error is cpu 3DMa rating of 55 thousand. Next error is cost. When Phenom II AM3 710 @ 99$ w/fan & ppd can automatically open its forth core, hit near 3 Ghz/s & in BE720, Who Knows, maybe beat above beast Hz at 20% of Cost, Pub.lics NOT Thinking Right.Pubes, whom do you show off such wonderment?
Intel Makes TV Remote Controls. Yours at home is as reliable as any Intel cpu. With GloFlo going Chartered(ibm), BIG Changes Are in Flautee' Winds of Change.
In with Good, Out With BAD. High Cost Is BAD. Whats Difference, except Thud Your Pocket Makes When Trashed.
DRASHEK
After whooping on new AMD Processors, turns out intro samples where made on Deneb platform & had 4/6 mb Cache, less or as good as 710/720, yet promised at slightly Lower cost. Too BAD, Lies.
Going back to that Deneb design. The initial Athlon II X4 samples actually were Deneb based and as such some of the early samples were able to have their L3 caches unlocked. This is a thing of the past now as AMD switched over to the less expensive 'Propus' design for the Athlon II X4 620 and 630. Propus doesn't have any physical 6MB L3 cache at all, so your chances of activating it using the ACC will be really slim unless you run into a very early production batch.
The Propus based X4s are manufactured on AMD's 45nm node in Fab 1 in Dresden, with a die size roughly 60% of the Deneb die. Measured at 169 mm² this processor comes packed with roughly 300 million transistors and carries a 95W TDP.
Packed, Really, Back to X2 only X4. How UnCool. BTW to unlock 710/720 go into ACC & its default is voltage to Bios, Move that to Voltage to ALL cores & 4th core will open. or in some cases, theres actually box to open 4th core.
So In ALL, Maybe Intel IS Better Choice With Those whose Pockets Are Dep.
DRASHEK