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Dual Xeon W5590 - Part 2

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Monday, 17 August 2009, 11:38

THE FASTEST THING in the world for your desktop right now is the dual CPU Xeon W5590 platform. So, as promised on 8 August (although a little later than promised owing to swine flu and typhoon Morakot), here is part two of our review.

This time we focused on trying out the configuration limits of the various components used.

PSU
Thermaltake's uber-PSU, the ToughPower 1500 (they have a 2000W version too) would probably load most home power sockets worldwide, and definitely be beyond the grasp of any USA or Japan 100-110V sockets. Of course, this PSU provides sufficient juice even for a hypothetical overclocked dual 4GHz Xeon machine with three dual-GPU cards, if you wanted such a monster.

So, we went to the other extreme, and tried to see how far we could go with the smallest possible PSU. The Seventeam ST850P unit at 850W was a convenient test bed.

seventeamThe compact PSU managed to handle the dual Xeon with the Asus Matrix GTX285 card without a hitch, even though it didn't even have the full 24 + 8 + 8 pin power connector combination - the last one was missing. This either means that 850W is more than enough, or that the Seventeam unit has darn good +12V rail.

 

Cooling
Unlike the overclocked PC systems, the engineering 3-D workstations may favour liquid cooling for another reason: silence. The enormous amount of heat from the dual CPUs, coupled with the other components, such as the huge memory array, GPUs and disks, would require batteries of noisy fast fans. Too much noise can affect the productivity and even health of the highly paid engineers using the systems, so there is a direct economic benefit of having a silent system. And yes, they want it absolutely sealed as no one will have time to tinker with leaks.

lclcheadsSo we have an Asetek dual CPU LCLC which behaved well on the thermal tests. On the previous Xeon W5580 Supermicro platform as a test bed before the new CPUs arrived, the Asetek's sealed liquid cooler provided between 8C (idle) and 11C (full load) lower temperature than the Supermicro default heat sink and fan combo.

For curiosity's sake, we also tried twin Coolermaster V8 fans, the best we could muster for standard air cooling on the LGA1366 socket.

The Asetek was just 1 to 2C lower on idle, but managed to keep temperature 4 to 5C lower when running the CPU full load benchmark.sanxeonlclctemp You can see here the temperature graph on the W5590 for Asetek LCLC when running the Sandra CPU bench.xeoncputemp

 

 

 

xeonmemtemp

Benchmarks
Talking of benchmarks, we ran a few more rounds of key tests to see how far we could go.

First, the 3DMark Vantage on the Asus Matrix GTX285, a very fast and very overclockable top-end GPU.

Since these eight cores running at 3.47GHz - yes our samples did run on Turbo - should give quite a bit of physics effects computation power, We ran it with both Nvidia PhysX off (so all on the CPU) and PhysX on the GPU. Both results are great (see below) although there still is a 3Dmark benefit for PhysX on as you would expect.3dmarkw5590nophysx3dmarkw5590physx

And talking of 3D, have a look at the CineBench 10 result: good basic CPU run and scaling as expected. But the real challenge - and still unfinished as of now - was getting to 100GFLOPs usable in Linpack double precision matrix multiply benchmark.cinew5590

This routine, one that often exceeds the CPU TDP, drives everything on the processor and memory system to the hilt, and the results increase depending on the matrix size and data granularity for the allocation.

As our matrix size increased from 10000x10000 to 50000x50000 (the latter requiring well over 30GB RAM) the results crept up to about 99GFLOPs. Note that, for the smaller size, changing the data allocation to 6KB (remember we've got six channels of memory here) did improve things a bit. Now, if we had at least CL7-7-7 - in SPD - DDR3-1333 memory here, we think we'd have over 100GFLOPs as Linpack is sensitive to memory latency.linpackw5590

Oh yes, and all the tests in this review are done with HyperThreading off.

 

 

 

 

So where do we go from here? Well, before we get hold of the six-core Gulftown in the same socket (due in the next six months or sooner), we expect to see one more possible speed bump for this set-up. Alternatively, a multiplier unlocked version matched with a suitable OC mainboard and lower latency memory would work wonders.

We'll have more tests with this platform soon, and on other mainboards as well. µ

Good
Top performance, balanced processor, memory and I/O, not that much power usage.

Bad
Memory latency settings could be adjustable.

Ugly
Price - $1500 per chip - you get what you pay for though.

 

 

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Comments
Oh boy, Intel Payboy in action!

This article could attract many Spawn of Intel (SpIntel) to infested in theinquirer to see this newspost.

posted by : AMD Fanboi, 17 August 2009 Complain about this comment
Linpak results of 8 cores

Like, HT on holiday ? Nice rig, shame about the lack of PCIe slots.

I'll say the word again.

CUDA

*poeff*

and francois emerges in the comments :)

No its a good rig, but somehow I miss the HT in action...

posted by : Aryan, 17 August 2009 Complain about this comment
Overclockable dual xeon board?

So... does an overclocking dual Xeon board exist? (for 55xx series)

Have been looking for a few weeks now, but not finding even a single one. :(

posted by : Anonymous, 17 August 2009 Complain about this comment
What about

Gromacs and Crysis?

posted by : hoohoo, 17 August 2009 Complain about this comment
3D Uber Contest w/Prizes....

As good wibble list of awards, ALL You need is 3D Mark Vantage Scores that Set House on Fire, here:

Futuremark® Corporation today announced a new competition for PC overclockers everywhere. Utilizing AMD and GIGABYTE hardware, contestants worldwide will compete in two segments for the overall “Gigabyte Dragon” title within multiple prize award categories.

Contest page: http://www.futuremark.com/community/competitions/gigabytedragon
Twitter: http://twitter.com/yougamergirl

The contest entry period will run from Aug 17th to Sep 13th. Prizes will be awarded to first to third place finishers for the following segments, top 3DMark score and top CPU overclocking.

Grand prizes include GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard, FSP Everest 800 Watt power supply, Maxcube Amoris 6010 Architectural Designed Gaming Case, GlacialTech X-Wing Notebook Cooling Pad, Gskill F3 Triple Channel DDR3 6GB memory module, and Enermax Apollo series 12cm Fan. Additional prizes awarded to second and third place runner-ups as well as two weekly lucky draw prizes for GIGABYTE motherboards given away just for entering.

“This is the largest overclocking event of its type we’ve ever seen

Burning Hole Thru Envelope...-When i Smell Burning Transformer Oil in Mourning...it Feels, Well, Like Life.

Ultee' suggests BSOD Contest to go with above event. Count 'Em & Weap...

drashek

posted by : Faster,Fawster,Faster than...., 17 August 2009 Complain about this comment
Linpack data alignment

Have you tried Linpack with larger data allocation alignment eg. 12KB. OS likes 4KB blocks and triple channel memory likes factors of 3.

posted by : tygrus, 19 August 2009 Complain about this comment
yes there is extra Linpack benefit

yes, we get Linpack boost of another 0.3% more if the alignment is on 24 KB blocks (six mem channels x 4 KB page) - 99.1 GFLOPs on 50K x 50K matrix

posted by : Nova, 22 August 2009 Complain about this comment
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