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Nero 8 update changes little but confuses quite a bit

First INQpressions Nero 8 disk burning software
Monday, 15 October 2007, 11:10

Product: Nero 8
Website: www.nero.com/nero8
System Requirements: Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003, Media Centre, Vista, 1 GHz processor (or higher), 256MB RAM (Vista 512MB RAM), 1.2GB free HDD space
Price: £49.99, $79.99, ? 59.99 ? Download. £59.99, $99.99, ?69.99 ? Retail Boxed version. $12.99 - Update DVD


NERO 8 WAS released only last week and replaces the popular Nero 7? Premium Reloaded from 2006. We have been looking at the retail box version, which Nero 8 now only comes on DVD and no longer on CD. The software Now comes in at a whopping 1.26GB of data, where as the downloadable version is only 182.5MB. The size difference did take us back a bit, as it has already some forum posters. Then again you really have to remember the DVD does contain all the known language versions to man.

There’s also a slight difference in the install applications too, as seen in the images below. Both of those missing modules from the on-line version can be obtained from the main website if required. The Nero Mobile from the DVD is only a 30-day trial anyway, so no major loss there. Accompanying the DVD are also Photoshow Express and the Securdisc viewer, which are separately downloadable. If you’re wondering what Securidisc is, check this out ? we covered it quite extensively in a review of late.

Nero-8---dvd-installation-applications-options Nero 8 ? DVD installation applications options

Nero-8---downloadable-installation-applications-options
Nero 8 ? Downloadable installation applications options

The variations between the installs do not stop there. On the hard drive, the full DVD installation (minus InCD) comes in at 755MB, the downloadable version is just 383MB and Nero 7 ? 357MB. What leads the vast difference in the Nero 8 versions is their swarve and swish animated templates. The directory of the same name is full of movie files for adding to the normally plain DVD menu creations in Nero Vision. All in all, this takes up nearly-half of the final installation size from the DVD version of Nero 8.

Forum posts around Nero 8 accuse the software suite of now being bloat-ware, in light of all this. We believe this really is a hail-back to previous versions of the suite, where it was broken up. Beforehand, you could download separate parts of Nero suite and in different packages to suit all, but now it’s just one size fits all and is no longer tailored.

Nero 8 installed a tad faster than 7, on our t-rusty P4 based PC. With almost minimal interruptions from the procedure itself, although at the end we were prompted to select or deselect what file types Nero should handle. We’re glad this was offered and in a distinct way too. As it can be a pain to go through at a later stage picking and pulling out what file extensions you’d like to be handled by your already favourite app, rather than Nero.

The very first noticeable difference, after installation, was the main applications boot up time. It’s considerably faster than the previous versions to the point where we checked to see if were using the same machine. Yes, it’s that much of an improvement. Nero 7 did arrive on the scene back in 2005, with an almost service-pack release under the guise Premium Reloaded late 2006. With that in mind, we’d expect some over-hauls so we’re glad to see this was the first. The loading times were a bother to us from beforehand, just as it was to others too.

The main core application Nero Burning ROM, hasn’t changed at all from what we could see. As with prior iterations, all the disc writing aspects of Nero still run from and around it, albeit with a few crafty command switches for Nero Express. It does load quicker than before when we burnt a DVD, which didn’t have any noticeable time differences from version 7.

What has changed a lot is Nero SmartStart. No longer is it just the bulky equivalent of a tool-bar just to launch applications and their functions in the Nero suite. All of which can all be launched anyway from the start menu. Now, it’s actually a useful piece of software.

Nero-7---smartstart Nero 7 ? SmartStart

In Nero 8 the SmartStart application now contains all the useful and easy to access features of the complete software suite. Burning discs, creating discs, copying discs, ripping audio ? are all here to use. Although they have still missed out on mix-mode CDs, just as they have in Nero Express. If you know the suite anyway, the new SmartStart is a cross between the full-blown applications of Nero and also Express. It’s more like a Nero Express Plus, which you could almost replace using its lite version within time. Nearly everything here is a just a few clicks away from start to finish, all easy to use too. Ideal for the not-so-techy and lazy people alike.

Nero-8---smartstart Nero 8 ? SmartStart

As you can see from the following screen shots, the most common functions and much better usage of them than Express are now built into SmartStart. They haven’t left out the traditional features though. Nero 8 has them still included in an application launch bar.

Nero-8---smartstart-data-burning Nero 8 ? SmartStart Data Burning

Nero-8---smartstart-audio-ripping Nero 8 ? SmartStart Audio Ripping

Nero-8---smartstart-application-list Nero 8 ? SmartStart Application List

They’ve taken on the current and emerging trends that are all around us within High Definition media and brought it inside Nero 8. This is very clearly seen in their video authoring software, which has now been updated to version 5. As now HD media can be created with ease inside the Nero suite, although a fee playable plug-in is needed for certain aspects. It now boasts full Blue laser and HD support, for the first time ? so both formats can be addressed inside Nero leaving none out in the cold. This also includes support from inside their media player, ShowTime.

Nero-7---vision-4
Nero 7 ? Vision 4

Nero-8---vision-5 Nero 8 ? Vision 5

We ran a quick test on converting some hr hdtv avi’s to DVD, Vision 5 shaved off some time in the media creation. We’re sure the greater number of files we would have used, the greater the benefit in time we would have seen. Unfortunately we couldn’t use the HD transcoding functions as we’re sure it would have killed our poorly spec’d P4 system.

From out of the box/internet, Nero have a fully-backed Vista application now. Although the previous version did install and the free updates took care of the awkwardness ? this is truly a Vista product. They’ve integrated the UI with Aeroglass features and even thrown in a useful Windows sidebar Nero DiscCopy gadget. The latter does more or less what it says on the tin, all very easy to use.

Nero-8---vista
Nero 8 - Vista

There are a few other trinkets Nero have thrown in and improved upon, from on-line content sharing to backing-up of data. But the last thing they came to our attention and thought we should mention was the disc recover software.

Nero RescueAgent allows users to restore deleted files and recover data from discs where it may have been lost due to scratches, interrupted recordings or poor quality of media. We’ve used BlindWrite before for this need, but it’s useful here for those who are thwarted by damaged media and use Nero. A we lcome addition to the suite we believe, keep it up guys.

The majority of Nero sold are on-line, with a whopping 68% of all sales. We thought the retail boxes would have been a higher figure, but it only equates to 17% of sales. Then again, whenever we frequent our local supermarket-oriented-PC-wholesalers we’re always tripping over boxes of Nero. T his does always mean they’re selling well, despite their massive presence.

In the USA they offer an update DVD from the previous version, this we can’t see on the European website which could put off possible upgraders.

In Short
Nero has made some useful improvements from the versions 7. If it’s HD media creating you’re going for next, then this is the package to look at. Although we’re unsure if it’s a significant enough change to move on from the last version, however the quick loading time and SmartStart could eventually sway us.

The Good
New improved SmartStart, faster in loading and running, HD support

The Bad
No longer separate packages

The Ugly
Could be seen as bloat-ware

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Nero Image Drive

One of my favorite apps in Nero was missing :((. It's Nero Image Drive. It use it to load many image, NRG or ISO. In nero 7, it's only avaiable on xp. Hopefully the fix it in future release.

posted by : hok, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Eh?

Swarve?

posted by : Anon, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
WTF, nooo. v6 is discontinued now !

I am still holding on my nero 6.6.1.15a and refuse to use the bloated whale that nero 7 has become.

I would have thought that v8 would return to being a lean and mean machine, but looking at the download file size (178mb) seems we have another bloated fat whale coming our way :(

and... i just saw it...starting with v8's release they have decided to discontinue maintenance on nero v6 :(
All the nero 6 downloads appear under the "Discontinued Products" heading in the download section.

it seems v6.6.1.15a will be the last one ever published in the 6 series.

waaaaaaaa :(

posted by : Me, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Blindwrite

Since when Blindwrite is a rescue and recover corrupted CD-s, DVD-s ?? I have used it for writing and making backups, but not for recovering corrupted data. What gives? Maybe I am lost somewhere?? Correct me if I'm wrong and explain the recover part in details.
Thank you and best wishes,
Deio

posted by : Deio, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
love the old age

All I need is the old style drag and drop without any wizards. That's why deepburner suits me well. 

IMO certail programs like OS, burning software, music players, video players have to be as lightweight as possible.
I still use winamp 2.9 and video player of choice is media player classic.

I just can't believe how can a software package like this weigh 1.2GB !

posted by : Silent, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Let me get this straight

Is Nero trying to simply fill each new optical disk format that comes out ? Are we going to see a Nero BD version that takes up 45GB of the promised 50GB available ?
What on Earth has gotten into their minds ? Nero is now the official Office 2007 suite for burning data to optical disks. And if you have Vista, you'll need to add another 4GB of RAM just for Nero and its attending processes.
Are they NUTS ?!?
It's only burning data to DVD. Can't require more than 5MB all told.
Blindwrite in its last version is less than 4MB, for chrissakes.
This is lunacy.

posted by : Pascal Monett, 15 October 2007 Complain about this comment
SmartStart???

Sorry to be picky but the app is StartSmart NOT SmartStart....

posted by : GeeJay, 16 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Not bloat-ware if you choose

If you're concerned about all the extra crap that is included with the nero install, simply choose a custom install and deselect everything except the basic "Nero Burning ROM".
There you have your lean mean burning machine with nothing else. Easy, nothing to complain about.

posted by : Slartimitvar, 16 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Hmmm May Upgrade

About 3 months ago upgraded to Nero 7 from Nero 6 I customized the install as I didn't have the bloatware that came with it.

All I installed was Starsmart, Nero Vision, Burning ROM, Express & Tools.

I'll agree V7 is slower especially Start Smart takes about 30-40secs to pop-up even on my 2GB DDR, 250GB SATA, AMD64 4000+ 939 rig.

I'll wait for Nero 8 OEM to arrive I ain't paying £40-50 especially since it's new software they'll be bugs for sure. But Nero 7 is good now that it's V7.10.1.0 hasn't crashed yet for me but Nero 6 is gettin old so needed to upgrade total install of V7 on my system according to the system folder is 256mb.

posted by : Dave C, 16 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Spelling & Grammar

The grammar in this article is atrocious. It reeks of MS-Word grammar checking. 

examples:

"The size difference did take us back a bit, as it has already some forum posters"

should read "we were taken aback by the size difference, as were some users who posted in our forums"

"the DVD does contain all the known language versions to man"

should read "the DVD contains versions in all languages known to man"

Oh, and its "suave", not "swarve".

Whoever wrote this article should be fired.

Out of a cannon.

Into the sun.

posted by : Gareth Gray, 17 October 2007 Complain about this comment
Missing File

Pity I didn't read your comments before I bought Nero 8. The system I am using doesn't have a DVD. I installed on another system only to get half way to have a missing dll file : msxml3.dll. Unable to finish install. This program is HUGE and took over an hour to get half way. It better be worth it!!

posted by : JASSIE, 27 December 2007 Complain about this comment
Frustration

After endless hours attempting to simply capture DV tapes and cut the rubbish out I have given up. My DV tapes of my grandchildren and very extensive foreign travel will languish. unseen - I'm going back to my still cameras [digital + 35mm SLRs]. The on screen instructions aren't even clear. Typical example: set up a file on an external hard drive to save the capture, warts and all, for subsequent editing. What occurs is that the capture disappears into the ether. It's boring continually capturing the same 30 mins of video without any result. Sorry - but somebody started from the wrong end of the design of this one.

posted by : MIKE D, 24 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Clumsy

I gave Nero 8 a go and found it slow, clumsy and unintuitive, unlike Nero 7. I was particularly disappointed by their failure to add a feature to edit trailers out of DVD's, so I still have to use DVDEdit. What was laughable is that when I started to back up DVD's with Nero 8 it wouldnt allow copying of audio because Dolby is copyrighted. That's a killer for a start. Waste of time, waste of money.

posted by : Ianpb, 15 March 2008 Complain about this comment
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