Apple fanboys upset about latest Microsoft adverts

Maybe at some point, Apple could pretend it made "better" computers than the PC cloners, but now that Apple produces PC clones itself, that vapourous "advantage" has disappeared.

Why should I pay much more for a PC? So St Eve of Jobs can walk around with a smug look on his face? Big whoopie ding! Like I care about Steveo and the rest of his homies there at the Apple mothership.

Apple hardware is no better than anyone else's and Apple software is just another Linux knockoff clone.

Nothing happening here, move along...

OS X rocks but yes you pay for extra for Apple but you get what for pay for, in part. Microsoft knows the informed users won't buy into the adverts but the target is the masses of lemmings who do not know better. Thats how we have a Marxist running this country, ill informed brainwashed voters.

..did Farrell get to post a "rant"? You need to have coherent opinions to rant well. The result, otherwise, is just a load of brainless blokey gibbering in interestingly fractured English- whatever the topic du jour.

Sorry Regulas but this is about as true as ads can get.

Apple charges far more than their PCs are worth.

OSX is very pretty and it seems to make people happy, especially people who are bad with computers. That said, I know a couple of experienced, technically inclined people who choose apple.

OSX is not worth $500-1500 extra.

Pretty cases are worth $1-200 extra but not more.

Apple makes nice PCs that would be reasonable at a $300 premium.

They do not produce ultra-reliable devices as some have suggested. The evidence is all around for anyone who cares to look but, of course, invisible to rabid fanboys.

Not to dis Apple but the evangelism has gotten old.

Start charging reasonable prices or stop using THE SAME cheap parts that everyone else does inside your pretty cases.

Buy Apple and be different...just like everybody else!

Hi guys , what have you done to your site that when I see it in Internet Explorer , my core 2 duo processor is 70-80 % busy ????????????????

"just ended up with a cheap-appearing machine that obscured its real technical limitations under a flashy layer of misleading, specification-oriented marketing."

if macs weren't cheap I'd wonder which platform this perso actually talking about.

The "bloke" in the Microsoft advert of course doesn't mention that consumers could save about $100-$200 per machine by just saying "no" to the Microsoft tax, not accepting the one-way-road Microsoft EULA, and asking for a refund (or buying a machine with Linux pre-installed). Ubuntu is just a free download away, or you can buy a CD for about $3 from many hardware retailers.

Perhaps Microsoft really doesn't "care" about giving the consumer the best deal after all?

Even if you can claim that when comparing similar PC to Mac systems, the Mac prices turn out to be comparable Apple just doesn't support low end stuff.

You have to buy products with all the bells and whistles.

For me I know I don't need the latest and greatest to surf the web and write a resume or two, so I can buy a PC/printer/Monitor combo for about $350 bucks. Can't do that with Apple.

...the fansboys, apparently.

@ io - No problems here using IE6 and an ancient processor from 2001/2002. It must be you or your "high-tech" browser and/or processor.

You can get a $600 Dell that will do what the avg PC user wants. As for gaming, you can buy a freaking Alienware laptop for $1300.

$1500 for an HP? I call shenanigans on both MS and Applesauce.

Mac geeks have always been full of manure

I'm sure the poor fellow will be completely bankrupted after downloading that free security update that protects his PC from the Conficker worm. How tragic.

Apple hardware is nothing different than everything else. Rich speaks the truth. It's made by Asus and is nothing but Intel-based stuff. You're paying for name and form-factor. I'll admit they are sleek and sexy, but the hardware is all the same!

And everyone is just going to boot Windows XP on those notebooks anyways to run all of their normal programs.

I really get annoyed at these smug dorks who claim that "you get what you pay for" while assuming a PC is a cheap piece of junk. I would advise these smug dorks to take the time to look at what's under your pretty Apple logo! Check to see what makes it work. Well guess what? It's the same hardware you call cheap etc... the difference is you are paying far more for the same hardware.

I've owned two Toshiba notebooks and I have had ZERO problem with them. It would seem that the Apple faithful really needs to leave momma's basement and check out the facts before ranting.

I'm glad M$ is finally hitting Apple where it hurts. In today's economy this is a great move by M$. Apple's hardware is over priced when compared to other PC makers.

The iMac line has become an underpowered, over priced, sad joke. Where is the quad core iMac? Where?

Well Apple is not the same as a PC when you consider the whole package. By "the whole package" I mean underlying hardware, case style and the OS.

Somehow, Apple fan boys tend to think the underlying hardware is also different. Thats not true. When they were using Motorola, it was. Now they use the same products that you can find on a standardised PC/notebook.

But the style and the OS are different. I also find Sony SZ series(carbon fiber) as fancy looking. Also Lenovo X300 is freaking awesome. Proud owner ;)

If someone thinks style and OS are worth shelling the extra bucks, its really their choice.

I do agree, someone buying Apple seems to buy it with a religious zeal and then go about defending their product and thinks they have done a good(as in good vs evil) thing. This does seem pretty stupid to me, since Apple is also a company set to make profit.

Apple is a bit more "control the user" oriented than MS. Most of the Linux distros are better in this front. But even today, Linux is for the more technically inclined. I type this from experience.

I use Ubuntu Server(no X Windows) for home fileserver, Windows XP at work, Windows7 7057 32bit on my X300, and XP/Ubuntu dual boot on my home machine.

Sorry, other than checking out at friend's or at shops, I have no long term experience with Apple. So can't comment on that.

Guess what, PC boys have it too and far longer then Apple....
We call it Linux or Unix.
And on top, Linux and Unix are FREE!!
No need to Apple for that.

I only wished Apple and the Linux crowd would work better together, then M$ would be gone in a second.

But Oh No! Billy owns more then 30% of Apple! Else Apple would have been gone long ago....

What I don't understand is why people are so obsessed by what's "under the hood". Personally I'd rather have an old battered basic spec G3 powerbook running Tiger than this brand new HP. I enjoy my OS X experience, I certainly can't say that of any Windows experience of mine (even pre-vista).
I'd been using PCs for years before I got my first MacBook and within an hour of using I was already doing things faster than I'd ever managed in Windows. Point being the Windows interface is crap. Doesn't matter if you have 4 extra processors under the hood if it takes the user twice the number of steps to get there.
I'm not a rich man but you couldn't pay me $1500 to put down my MacBook and pick up this HP. Sorry Microsoft, there's nothing wrong with the laptop but hell needs to freeze over before I favour your OS. Mac user out.

A buddy of mine has a Macbook... I built my OCZ DIY laptop to have the same specs as his...

Mine came out to about $1000 with taxes, while his was $1700 with taxes.

Mine too has a sexy case and it's black instead of white (dirt doesn't show up nearly as much on it).

Is OSX worth the extra $700?

It's having to deal with the reality distortion field.

Truth is you get what you pay for:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/04/04/microsofts-latest-ad-attacks-mac-aesthetics-computing-power/

Let's not forget about all the PC centric sites that whined about Apple's commercials...including this one.

Windows reality:
http://rixstep.com/2/20090326,00.shtml

OSX is just a flavor of UNIX software. So is Ubuntu. Ubuntu is free and very similar to OSX.

MOST Apple users boot up their computer, and go to their browser (often Firefox).

For goodness sake...

Apple users - talk some sense. This is not a competition...I have followed many comments and it seems to me that you are just standing on a pile of dirt and saying to the next guy, (also standing on his pile of dirt),"my piece of dirt is better than yours".

Let me tell you something..."give it up". Why do you care ? Why do you really care is I say that Apple is rubbish.

Insecure much ?

it's related to some badly designed adverts

as they change randomly, not all viewers have that problem, but I've had it too here on the inq previously (though not today)

Regulas, do you have to bring every post around to your bitterness that McCain lost? This is a British IT rag, not US conservative talk radio. You have plenty of other outlets for your grief, so sod off to one.

Or, to put it in a way you'll understand:

"America! Love it or leave it, you fascist punk!"

"a flashy layer of misleading, specification-oriented marketing"

Translation:

"buying a computer based on what components you want it to have instead of just trusting Apple to make that decision for you."

spent 25.000 NOK on a machine riddled with incompatibilities. Three months after I bought it apple released a new operating system(9) that it required me to buy. All new software would not work on the old system(8). A year later I sold it for 3.000 NOK. Recently gave an mpeg2 file to a professional video editor, perfectly standard mpeg2 -straight out of my two years old camcorder. His mac could not read the file. He had too transcode it and lose a generation in the process. Macs are awful useless computers for any who does actual work.

I'll ask all mac users the same question i asked a mac using friend of mine ,who now also owns one of my custom pc's, Come online and Game with me,i got back ,ER UM ER,UM ,ER, i asked that he remove that stupid stare. at least..they show pics and video nice,and surf the web pretty good though, i added.fancy for a media player...

We all knew this would be the reaction. Apple fanbois, or just fanbois in general are so easy to "troll." Nothing like an inferiority complex to draw a reaction.

The fanbois pay $2000 more for OSX lol. Check the highest config available on iMacs. $3400. I can build a PC with same specs for $1000, which can also PLAY GAMES.

LOL at Apple. They give you the option to get HD 4850 in an iMac - anyone wondered why? It can't be for gaming, can it, because there are hardly any real games for OS X. I know - they offer it so that you can run games when you install Windows on it.

Thought the Microsoft commercials were a bit off since if you don't pay much attention to it its not a Microsoft commercial but a HP is cheeper than a Apple one.

Yet the first add had the lass but a 17inch HP at $699 vs a 17 inch Macbook Pro. This was very flawed as the HP was a poorly specced desktop replacement with less screen resolution than most 13inch notebooks and about a hour if your lucky of battery life and 2 inchs thickness.

From my point of view i would go for the Macbook pro as it has best in class battery life, 1900x1200 resolution, fast CPU and DDR3 ram(8 GB for me. raw editing in the field ^_^). Oh and it's very light compared to other 17 inchers so i don't need to break my back lugging it around.

But regardless i am a small lass so i am going to get the Alu Macbook as soon as the Core i7 mobile is out.

My reasons are
Small and light wight
Magnetic power adaptor
Sufficient IGP for WOW, Photoshop and 3DMAx
Aluminum case is very pretty and light
Low excepted noise level
Battery indicator
Optical audio in and out
Multi touch track pad (wondrous in Photoshop)
£100 off with student discount
Taco HTML Edit, CSSEdit, Tablet Draw, MAMP, WoW video recording, Terminal ssh to my linux server only possible with OSX
Snow Leopard (even Safari web browser is multithreaded though kinda pointless its worth it for giggles having 8 cores decode one image)
Investment in Adobe CS4 Web premium (£1200+), Microsoft Office 08, CSS EDIT, and Maya.

So what are the cons.
Expensive to upgrade the RAM and hard drive if bought though Apple. I will buy 3rd party SSD and 8+ GB Ram.
No Microsoft Project. (VMware Required)
No Actinic. (VMware Required)
No 3D Max (VMware Required, or bootcamp for more elaborate models till i learn Maya)
Flash is a resource hog on mac's. (not Apples fault, the don't program it.)
No Blu Ray drive, would be nice so i can keep all my movies to one format but heck i have bought more HD movies from iTunes than i have Blu Ray disks.
No dual display output. No one has this yet but it would be nice.
No Quadro option. Lol it would melt a 13 inch notebook but it would be ever so nice.

Ok so i buy Macs and truth be told the aesthetics of the hardware are only a blimp on the radar compared to the features on the touchpad and magnetic power connector. Top on my priority is always specification, features, weight, and compatibility.

Go post that crap on your blog that nobody reads. This is an article about the *reactions* of Mac fanbois to a commercial, not an article extolling the position of the ad. So stop acting like the people this article is about, and wasting your breath trying to refute the ad.

I do not have a interest if you care or not. I was just bored and decided to post a comment. Though your reply was amusing.

Gotta love those Apple fanbois!

Ignorant, misinformed, and misguided, but most importantly, constantly getting ripped off gobbling up all that crap Apple throws their way.

If you would work out, your weak arse wouldn't have to worry about your back breaking.

Just goes to show you pc users are in better shape, better looking and more intelligent. Just like their hardware.

HA!

They pay way too much for overpriced hard and software. And for what?
For the same hardware specs as a $2000 cheaper PC/Laptop
For OSX, with the smallest software library on the planet?
For functions that are also available in Linux or Windows.
Get you shit straight Crapple fanboys.
Paying too much for a bitten fruit logo is retarded. Bite me instead.

Young man you need to get a life.

Cretin, he was drawing a parallel.

Macs are overpriced: AGREED
Hardware is no better: AGREED

I actually quite like linux but linux is not the same as OS X just cos it's built on unix. The linux front end is not as good as OS X (in my opinion) and considering I use my machine daily I want an interface that's fast, easy to use and attractive. Yes I know you can configure gnome to work like you want it but most people I know struggle to change they're screensavers let alone faff around with linux packages blah blah blah. And even if the linux software library is in fact bigger than OS X most commercial apps don't support it so I couldn't even begin to use it in my profession.

Built myself a hackintosh as well, is an absolute dream. Best way forward, shame it's illegal. Don't get me wrong, I hate that Apple products are overpriced but that doesn't mean that an equally specced laptop running linux is the same thing.

I am a lassy not a laddy.

i hear the waaambulance coming mac boys, everything will be alright

For you, just to see a real Apple Fanboy/Fanboi:

Here am I, and like a lot of other Apple Users totally upset about the latest pricing of Apples products. Just take a look at www.macrumors.com and read the forums about the new Macs. No one agrees with Apple!! We are all cosumers in dire need of good value for money. So all U Unixers, Linuxers and winboys (winbois?) get a grip stop discrediting some people on basis of their computerusage!! I still use a G5 Mac I bought cheaply because the pricing is horrendous. And, btw - why do you think MS is advertising hardware it doesn't even make, but does not mention it's own product in the advert?

On the other hand - I htink you'll never learn... Just let them divide and conquer us. Again and again...

It's about time! The I'm a MAC ads went unchallenged in the ad space despite far more liberties than this ad. Then the Seinfeld Churrizo ad made me say WTF !?!
Finally a worth ad with the simple truth at the core... Apple hardware is overpriced and underpowered compared to PC options. It's not bad hardware, anymore so than the DELLs and such I've owned, but it isn't as good as the old Thinkpads I had, nor even the rejuvenated Lenovos like the W700, and for the money I'd prefer a VooDoo which is sexier by far.

If Apple were so secure in their hardware, they'd sell it on it's merits, not force people to buy their craptacular hardware in order to use their chick-friendly OS. But they know that people would leave them in droves if they could add OSX to a PC with all the features of the latest DELL or Lenovo. Just look at all the netbook adopters, a nice S10 with OSX works just fine, and for only about $500, so a smaller, lighter laptop then the 13" macbook.

The PC ads still need a little more polish, although the kids editing pictures gets the point across, especially to the whiney babies saying it's 'too hard on a PC'. However, it's about freakin' time, AND keep it coming!
Heck show a netbook PC's usability alongside the trip to the Carribean, Med Islands, or Ski-hill with the savings over a Macbook.

PC: get your portable computer and have money left over to go out and use it.

You're now free to surf around the country... B~)

Well ... Mac fanboys, apparently ... ^_~

This kind of thing is pretty boring. It takes advantage of the ignorant. Some of the commenters here are clearly ignorant. I for one find that Apple computers tend not to be more expensive as the ignorant think. You absolutely must compare like-for-like. You can't say a fugly laptop with a single-cored Celeron is comparably to a mid-to-high range Core 2 Duo. You must compare exact specs. Apple simply doesn't make computers that are pieces of tech cr@p. They stick to a fairly mid-to-high end spec. Every time I try to make a Dell workstation with the same spec as an Apple Mac Pro it usually turns out to be over $1,000 more expensive. Same goes for a laptop. You can't match the exact level of spec that Apple offers without finding it costing you more. It's time for more REAL comparisons.

In the glory days Macs could argue they were very different, with Trinitron screens, SCSI hard drives, and Nubus to name a few things. But better is mostly subjective, and now it's devolved into comparing identical architectures. The Mac fanbois can claim that with the "productivity" gains of the wonderful Mac OS their machines are equal in price, but only on the high end. I got two laptops for $1,000, a $400 Netbook and a $600 16 inch Compaq. Nothing Apple has compares to a Netbook, and I don't care if some or another Powerbook has more screen resolution or faster Ram, it gets the job done. So flail away Macheads, I can't afford it.

I think
1. Windows OS is the most widely used by the most PC users in the world.
2. Unlike Apple, Microsoft is the only dedicated closed sources software vendor that support for x86 PC hardware maker to run many hardware and software configurations and ensured users their stuff will work with their OS.
3. Programmers could use their talent to make money with developing software for Windows OS without license restrictions in GPL like Linux. So, there are many high quality software that available in Windows version only.
4. Many open sources software have developed in Windows OS.
5. People prefer Windows than Mac because they have been familiar with this OS and they can build their own rig using multiple configurations with Windows OS. This is the key reason why Apple can't do.
5. Software vendors prefer build with Microsoft tools because they can develop their software faster in Windows than any OS.
6. Microsoft dominated OS market because in Windows 9X era users that did not have license or buy their software$ could copy and install this OS in their PC. High piracy in Windows OS made their OS become mainstream and there are no closed source OS vendor in this era except IBM with OS/2.

ugh, Celeron single cores? heck, we're comparing an under-$2000 Q9000 quad core with dual 9800m GTX SLI graphics to Apple's "high-end" dual core offerings. DON'T try to argue with Windows users over hardware power or the amount of software available. You're sure to lose. That leaves you with shiny cases, a thumb scoop that took Apple electron microscopes to design (see Apple's description on their site), and well, fanboi spirit.
There's just too much variety, customizability and choice available to PC users in terms of software and hardware that Apple can never dream to match.