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Apple upheld in firing employee for Facebook rants
FRUIT THEMED Apple has been upheld for sacking one of its employees after he posted negative comments about the firm and its products on Facebook.
Apple specialist Samuel Crisp was fired from his job for writing a series of posts on Facebook about the company and its products. An employment tribunal ruled in favour of Apple after Crisp appealed what he alleged was an unfair dismissal.
Crisp apparently posted various rants about his 'Jesusphone', otherwise known as an Iphone, on the social networking web site, according to The Metro. He said about one app, "F***ed up my time zone for the third time in a week and woke me up at 3am? JOY!!"
He made things worse by making fun of Apple's launch of the Beatles' music on Itunes by posting, "Tomorrow's just another day that hopefully I will forget." Apple's tagline for the event was "Tomorrow is another day. That you'll never forget."
The manager of the Apple store where Crisp worked was alerted to the Facebook posts by another employee who was a 'friend' of Crisp on Facebook and so was able to view the comments.
Even though these posts were set to 'private' on Crisp's Facebook account, the tribunal ruled that they could have been forwarded on and said the sacking was justified because Apple has a clear policy against employees making critical remarks regarding the brand.
The employment tribunal said, "We take into account their position that the Facebook posts were not truly private and could in fact have been forwarded very easily with the claimant having no control over this process."
Apple has yet to respond to a request for comment. µ
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He should have been warned before being sacked. At the same time it is not the first time someone lost their job due to comments in facebook. Facebook has no respect for privacy whatever they say. In fact their business model is to make money by selling your private information to the world when you think you are just sharing with a closed group of friends
Thanks for making a considered and intelligent post 'bong', it pulls up the entire page.
This took place in the UK, so the constitution is irrelevant. The company have a clear policy, which their employees are contracted to obey.
The only legal way he could have won his appeal would be to show the contract is unfair, but I think most large corporation will ask their staff not to slag them off in public. Even a private comment in facebook count's as public if more than two people can read it.
It still sucks to loose your job, but it was his fault
@Joe:
If I failed to understand the constitution, then it's pleasantly OK for Apple to make policies against RELIGION.
The bottom line is this: People are not just free to say what they want, they have a right to - that's what's implied by the 1st Amendment.
Freedom of Speech!!
Samuel Crisp, I mean.
At least he was telling the truth...
@sid:
I suggest you read *and* understand the First Amendment before posting BS.
The First Amendment says that "Congress shall make no law abridging free speech" etc.
So, the US government can not restrict your free speech rights.
A private company, however, is not bound by that, and has never been.
@sid +1
USA s__ks, their focus on corpocryme business. Very well, go ahead USA, hope you crash soon
Liberty to speech should never be able to punish.
So if you talk bad about your country, you will be deported ? To where ?
hahaha
......or Stalingrad for you my son.
Nothing you post on line is private
In my company, I would not want to have employees who behind my back slam me, on Facebook, and Facebook for employees to express their 'private' or public views about the company is banned
If you have something to say, say it to my face.
My employees are part of the team
if you do not like it, you are free to go..
So what if he was critical of the product that his company makes?
He is using the product and he suffered from a FLAW in the product.
Secondly he posted his comment as private in Facebook.
He didnt give an interview to the press about the problems he encountered using the product.
It was private and would have remained private if his "friend" did not show it to the apple management.
It would be unrealistic for the Management of Apple to think that
everybody who works for them is as blind as they think or should be blind and mute about problems with their products.
They should have fixed the product instead of being so petty.
That's another reason i wont ever buy or recommend Apple products again.
I forgot to add that to my previous comment ... oh, and change the flag while we're at it to please Big Brother...
what are you smoking?
what sort of company would hire or have employees who openly criticize it,
employees have the privilege that if they have something to complain about about the company/products, they can say it to their manager or higher,
none forced this poor guy to work for apple or any other company! so communist china comparison is total absurd,
HOW CAN A COMPANY POLICY OVERRIDE THE CONSTITUTION!!!??? STUPID JUDGE!! STUPID COMPANY!
Apple, the Communist Party of China et al are noble Orwellians - propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson" - geez, we should be happy jobs (and the inner party) didn't get his/their way to rule the world. He would unperson all non-fruit branded persons.
Samuel Crisp, take your case to a higher court and tell them that the 1st Amendment is your right - shIt people say bad things about the president everyday ... he doesn't unperson them.
Does anyone else see similarities between Apple and the ruling Communist Party of China?