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Ryan Cleary might have Asperger’s

Defence team says teenage hacker has the same illness as Gary McKinnon
Mon Jun 27 2011, 13:45

ALLEGED LULZSEC ASSOCIATE Ryan Cleary might have Asperger's Syndrome, putting the reclusive hacker in the same unfortunate camp as the possible extradition victim Gary McKinnon.

Cleary, the teenager who is thought to have controlled the IRC channels used by some Lulzsec members was arrested last week by the UK police.

According to the BBC, the alleged hacker's legal defence team said that he suffers from a form of autism and agorphobia, and put in a request for bail. Although bail was granted prosecutors objected - they've probably seen the poster above his desk - and Cleary remains in custody.

Cleary, we learn, is of high intelligence, which is something we could have worked out for ourselves, and has difficulty interacting with other people, apparently unless it is virtually.

He is alleged to have been behind the denial of service attack on the UK's Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA). That attack was claimed by Lulzsec, the now supposedly disbanded hacking group, but Lulzsec has distanced itself from Cleary and claimed that he was not a key member.

Cleary, who is nineteen, is charged with four offences under Section 3 and 3A of the Computer Misuse Act of 1990 and one offence under Section 1 of the Criminal Law Act of 1997.

Prosecutors have alleged that he was a significant contributor to a botnet designed to take down targeted web sites, as well as the attack on SOCA and an earlier assault on the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) web site. µ

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Ryan Cleary is as good as dead.

You may think you're pretty tough behind a keyboard... But alas, We have people outside of cyberspace and guess what, They are all gunning for you little fat man.

You actually thought there would be no consequences due to your little keyboard warrior antics?

Dead. Man. Walking.
Dont worry little man, You are not the only. But you shall die all the same.

posted by : J, 03 July 2011 Complain about this comment
i would love to cunduct a brain scan on this man

i would like to say first that i have this syndrom. it is not a hindrance in my mind and i am currently conducting a study in wich will proove that infact it is an advantage! giveing the subject ceirton advancments in ceirton areas of study. i would like to point out the fact that i am 16 and have often had my intelagance compared to that of an adult far into my years. note though i mispell manny words and am atrocios at math. but every other subject i exel in. these are where the difficulties of haveing this apear. we exel in some subjects while fail misrably in others. if the subject harness the good subjects and intensifies them expenintialy then we are looking at a genios. i will also be conducting brain scans on certion people to proov that we could probably breed the inteligance into humans and there for make ourselves more andvanced in a matter of years. ofcoarse these studies will take time. but he is perfict. oh i do hope they do not inprinson him. his computer skills will be most welcome.

posted by : Mahayla, 30 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Who cares?

Too bad he didnt top himself. :)
Now people are going to have to get off their own asses to hand this little stain a beat down.

posted by : J, 29 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Tough row to hoe, don't think so

mike@

I think you missed my point, Ryan has been diagnosed Autistic(aspergers) at 19 so he did not receive the special schooling and support your nephew was so very fortunate enough to get following, I presume an early diagnosis. The difficulty for the higher functioning kids is they are a lot harder to identify and many like Ryan slip through the net and don't get diagnosed at all and simply struggle on, isolated, ridiculed, lonely, misunderstood, frustrated in prison etc

As for me I certainly don't have a tough roe to hoe, I home educate 2 exceptionally brilliant autitic kids (7 & 10) as well as running a business. At 7 my son threatened to kill himself if I ever made him go back to school, so I did'nt You probably would'nt know they are autistic if you met them such is the nature of high functioning autism. But they still have the triad of impairments. Impaired social interaction, problems with verbal and non verbal communication, limited imagination and rigid thought process. Could be describing Ryan from all accounts.

If you read my comment again you will see that at no point did I say he should not be held accountable. I am just glad for Ryan and his family that they will now understand and be able to help and support him. Just like your sister has done and like all mothers of autistic children do once they know how to.

As for talking down. Again I'm not sure where you get the idea that I have the opinion he should not be held accountable. I accept that many people will be of the opinion of the 'new flat feet comment' My comment served only to educate and inform.

A ten year old who tries to kill himself is not an asshole who should get on with it. He's a kid crying out for help. Hope to god you never work with kids

posted by : lou, 29 June 2011 Complain about this comment
"has the same illness as Gary McKinno"

re: "has the same illness as Gary McKinno"

Calling AS an illness is very often highly offensive to those on the ASD spectrum. It is somewhat similar to calling homosexuality a disease.

AS is a difference, not a disease.

posted by : neo, 28 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Asperger's is autism

re:
Asperger's is being dropped in DSM-V and replaced with autism. Everyone diagnosed with asperger's under DSM-V will be labeled autism

posted by : neo, 28 June 2011 Complain about this comment
The obvious solution

is to simply arrest everyone with Asperger's syndrome before they can commit a crime.

Obviously, I'm kidding, but if someone used paranoid schizophrenia, which is what I have, as a defense, then that defense needs to be soundly challenged before simply being accepted. If I had committed a crime while psychotic I would 100% expect to be prosecuted.

Even if it's accepted that he's innocent because of Asperger's, more needs to be done than simply saying,"You're innocent, see you later." If he's guilty of a crime, but declared innocent because of his condition, than something needs to be done to make sure he doesn't re-offend. In my case, if I had committed a crime, at a minimum I would expect a legal requirement to take my medication. If someone is declared innocent of a crime because of a condition, then something needs to be done to deal with that condition so they don't re-offend.

posted by : Jason Goatcher, 28 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Aspergers excuse = fail

I'm an engineer. Some of my fellow engineers clearly have Aspergers yet they are making 6 figures and in positions where their judgement is crucial. Between 1% and 5% of the population have Aspergers, depending on who you ask; yet they can be respectable, law abiding citizens.

If it was claimed he had Autism I might buy a legal defense; that's a 'real' disability. But saying he 'might' have Aspergers is BS.

@ Lou: it sounds like you and your child have a tough row to hoe. My nephew was originally diagnosed with autism but with a lot of special schooling his condition is now classified as Aspergers; he's far enough along the spectrum where you would only need to hear him say two words and you would suspect sever Aspergers if not Autism. There were times when the schools did crappy work with her son, so my sister got a third job and put him in private school. She is a single mom and has another kid to take care of, too. She raises her son to be accountable for his actions; he is taught right from wrong and expected to do right rather than wrong. You have no need to talk down to people who think a person with Aspergers should be accountable.

FYI Hitler tried to kill himself before he lead the Naziz and killed the Jews. Some people are just ass holes who are right to want to kill themselves.

posted by : mike, 27 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Aspergers

As a mother to a child with Aspergers, I can only hope Ryan gets the help he has clearly needed for so long. He has been badly let down. It is clear he has had difficulties for many years, suicide attempt at a young age, pupil refferal unit etc etc. The writing was on the wall and those who shouild have helped him failed him. From my experience the Education system has a lot to answer for and generally does more damage than good. Ryan is clearly exceptionally intelligent as is usually the case with Aspergers. His brilliance needs to be channelled in a positive way but he is going need an enormous help to do this.

No suprise to hear comments like Col Abrahams. Like most people he will be ignorant to how this condition affects people. Though I guess unless you are a parent or professional dealing with the difficulties these young people face on a daily basis why would you even bother to understand it. You can educate your self a little by watching a film called Adam about a man with Aspergers, you never know you might learn something

posted by : Lou , 27 June 2011 Complain about this comment
The new 'flat feet'

Right, next time I get pulled over for drink-driving, thrice over the limit and thinking I'm seeing four coppers, I'll just say I have Aspenger's and turn THEM into the bad guys.

Unsubstantiated rumour has it that OJ is going onto Oprah to confess, citing Aspenger's as the root cause.

And did you know that the iceberg that sank the Titanic had Aspenger's?

Himler and Gerbils were also known victims of Aspengers, as was Stalin, Pol Pot, Sadam Hussein, Idi Amin and Col Gadaffi. Their actions aren't their fault!

Oh, and so did the man at BT who moved their call centres to India so that you couldn't get your problems fixed.

Forgive them Stephen Fry, they no not what they do.

posted by : Col Abrahams, 27 June 2011 Complain about this comment
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