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INQUIRER readers grapple with Nokia's Windows Phone 7 decision
FINNISH PHONE MAKER Nokia is likely to have a tough time selling its Windows Phone handsets if the reactions of The INQUIRER's readers are anything to go by.
The news that Nokia signed a pact with Microsoft to work closely on developing smartphones that run Windows Phone seems to signal the demise of Nokia. It has left our readers going through the five stages of grief.
1. Denial - Mycelo writes "NO, NO, NO", while Drew said, "No where does this announcement indicate why they're doing this. Ah well, I guess the next shareholders meeting will be interesting for Nokia, and for that matter Microsoft". Keep the faith brother, we all secretly hope that for Nokia's sake it didn't just sign away a good chunk of its recent history and start paying for Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system.
2. Anger - "Seems that I am not buying Nokia any more. Pity, as Nokia was the other word for mobile phone" said John. While Phil slams the door shut on Nokia saying, "Bye Bye Nokia I even wonder if you'll be missed." Tentimes went on a scathing attack on Microsoft, labelling Nokia's decision as poor strategic move, "Microsoft will suck the last bit of blood from Nokia's legacy, after which the cold dead corpse will float off into the history books, and the business text books."
3. Bargaining - "WHY! Who thought this was a clever sodding idea? Nokia can and has produced some of the best handsets ever released over the years" pleads Matt B. He continued to suggest that Nokia handsets running Google's Android operating system would be a match made in heaven, something that the majority of our readers agreed with in a recent poll. Ffinder composed a post within which was this truth, "Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony Erickson went Android and became successful. Why not Nokia?"
4. Depression - "I'm going to keep all my old Nokia boxes now as I think they may be collectors items in a few years" said Tentimes, presumably cradling a Nokia 3210. Pundit clearly realises the true horror show that unfolded today saying, "Worst deal since... since... um, since Time Warner was acquired by AOL?" That deal, often cited as the prime example of dotcom largese, saw both companies become largely irrelevant after spending billions, generating eerie parallels to the 'Mokia' tie-up.
5. Acceptance - "THIS IS GOOD: people will be able to compare products side by side. Watch for the subsequent drop in market share for the dominant desktop OS", said Hendrik Muios referring to the comparison between Microsoft's Windows and Windows Phone and Google's Android and Chrome OS. But perhaps the aptly named The Kin Man has it all sussed out, saing, "Nokia looked around for a company that has a failed mobile strategy, and Microsoft fitted that description perfectly." We couldn't agree with you more, mate.
So it seems The INQUIRER's motley crew of readers are coming to terms with Nokia's announcement in different ways, but the overwhelming response is the same, Nokia dropped a clanger by jumping into bed with Microsoft. Google's Android or even HP's WebOS would have made more sense, but instead we, like our readers are left to ponder, why did ex-Microsoft executive and current Nokia CEO Stephen Elop make the switch to Windows Phone?
If Nokia thought it had a up-hill struggle fighting against Apple and Google, by our reader's reaction, the decision to load Windows Phone onto its devices leaves the firm staring down a cliff with Steve Ballmer anchoring the rope. µ
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I m very happy that nokia make an agreement with the fantastic Windows Phone 7.
It s simple its non-geek SO and it is very stable....
;-)
Thanks Microsoft ... you have saved Nokia.
Fabio
I saw that comment and I don't agree with it.
Also the market disagrees with WP7 being a good phone OS.
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1543014
WP7 has less than 5% share.
Yep. That's right. Just sign a deal with the devil and they will take your soul. But the damage has been done. You skated along on your previous successes and now you are going to pay dearly for it.
Nokia, It was nice knowing you. Android is starting to seem really appealing now.
Is not the software, as soemone has pointd out before all people want is to be able to use their phone! OS's can change at the drop of a hat!
Nokia problem was that they would announce an upcoming phone and then , you would have to wait a year as it was delayed time and time again, until people eventually gave up and went to different brands.
Nokia should have bought WebOD when it was going, then they would have had a top class Mobile OS and not be beholden to anyone.
But yes too many cooks spoil the broth, they are to large to move fast anymore and they simply take wayyyyy to long to bring phones to the market
TDR please get your head out of MS's dark rear passage.
To me it looks like a very bad decision but hardly surprising as Elop is an ex MS man. There is even talk of moving the headquarters to the USA. MS might just have an empty building they could use.
Obvious troll is obvious. Either that or a really bad attempt at astroturfing.
If the Nokiasoft alliance fails, the finnish will surely be able to cope with it. In the past they had no proeblem to entirely change their business line; so, going back to manufacture toilet paper should be easy as pie for them. Who knows, we may see Toilet paper for Windows..... (and I guess many will say that Windows sorely needs it).
One main reason for Nokias current downward trend could be that the people at the helm do not know what they are doing. If so, then this recent move is hardly surprising. Just one mistake after another.
Are there many WP7 devices on market? At least near as many Android or iPhones? No.
Lets remember the lastest M$ incursion on mobile market, the Kin. That, which sold the huge amount of 600 pieces.
There is a few WP7 phones in the market, but M$ probably paid for each one of them, so the money from selling is 100% profit for the makers. Can they keep giving away their phones? Guess not.
For Nokia is a Win/win scenario. They have an even crappier OS, the Symbian. They get a less crappy OS, wins lots of dosh from M$ and end up with a less crappy smartphone.
As for vulnerabilities, if, just if, WP7 ever become a well adopted phone OS, and people bother to attack it, you can bet that people will find just as many holes other M$ software has, that is, a LOT.
pretty obvious
No way corporates are going to touch phones based in Linux or UNIX if they can help it (ie Android / iPhone). They are inherently insecure. We are at nearly 300 vulnerabilities on the iPhone now, and quite a number on Android.
Thats compared to 1 (non critical) on Windows mobile 6, and zero on Windows Phone 7.
Thats inline with the desktop and server OS world where Microsft OSs have an order of magnitude lower vulnerability counts than legacy LINUX or UNIX based OSs (Just check on Secunia if you were not aware of that).
capricornus: ah, email... SOOO much easier to ignore, just tell your PC to sent it straight to trash.... :)
1337: try to discover 'newline / enter key' sometime - y'know, the one that puts a good blank space between your lines??
like that. Then I will read you posts a bit more... :)
Phone?? I never realized, you can use this big PDA/ minicomputer/ media displayer/ mobile web/ facebook terminal to actually do something BORING like phone someone??? why would I do that????
I prefer a clean display, with a good clock calendar display, meetings & call notifications displayed underneath, and uncluttered display of programs immediately available..
Now if you prefer 6 GIANT buttons, a display that has more 'grand design' than function, then go enjoy windows...
to me it looks more 'my first PC' than anything businesslike...
I'll write my own firmware!
The biggest problem with Nokia is not an OS but combating lower margins. Nokia democratized mobile phones, but that will not be their future strategy from now on. It is clear that the mobile phone markets are going the PC way. Like IBM's strategy in 2003-04, Nokia understands the future of their company lies in services. The lack of a good OS environment to form a basis of their services is the biggest annoyance. But unlike IBM Nokia has no good services to offer. Everything they do is done ten times better by somebody else. Nokia Ovi cloud services including the mapping services require a huge retooling and that needs a partner like Microsoft or Google. It is an easy fix but unfortunately it is the only fix for Nokia. They never visualized themselves as a software company and were apathetic to software. For a long long time the only market war game they were playing were quality hardware parts for a reasonable price. As a consumer electronic company they forgot that the user experience is the core value and this is the price they have to pay. At this point Nokia expects a special treatment from mobile phone OS vendors and Google has no need or justification to develop a tailor made OS for Nokia or add customizations on Android exclusively for them. Also under Elop Nokia believes the talent they have in software development is insufficient to achieve something even remotely similar to what HTC has done with their Sense interface. Microsoft is the only one option that is willing to cater to the special needs of Nokia. But all this comes at a price. The Nokia's retreat from low end phone market will leave a lot of manufacturers to occupy it's current position in the developing economies. This will translate to a drastic lowering in sales revenue and market share for Nokia. The strategy for smart phones will eventually lead to replacement of Ovi services with Microsoft's own cloud services. As a result Nokia will be relegated to as a niche smart phone hardware maker. With the resulting reduced market capital and market share Nokia can consider becoming a division of Microsoft and relocate from Espoo to Seattle. Elop is wrong in saying that this is a three horse race, this is a race that Nokia has already lost and lapped several time over.
I've never owned a Nokia phone in my life, so not really in a position to understand where some of the passion comes from re their phones. Seems to be getting dangerously close though to some of the froth we hear from Apple zealots.
It's just a phone, right? Who gives a stuff which OS it runs? If you have the luxury of picking your phone based on some like/dislike of an Apple/Microsoft/Android logo, then grats you.
My IPhone was good though I hate the lock in to the store; my android does some things better and some things worse. And if the next Nokia/WP7 phone is better than either, I'll buy it. What's the problem?
I have a wp7 device and nothing can touch it for speed and efficiency.. Nokia made the right choice.. go suck a goat ball Inquirer you biased ass pos.
THIS SITE SUCKS. IT is an anti MS Site. They cannot comment any single positive news of MS.
@antixbaby Nobody owned and used a w7 phone extensively, not even balmer.
And incidentally, have you ever drank a bottle of mercury?
I just wrote a very short emailish contact note saying and stating that I like my actual NOkia with Symbian, and that I will not never buy a NOkia with micro$soft on board. Never. What can I say more? Just communicate it "en masse" - like the Egyptians just did with their Pharao.
Mr. Vlad, how then does running WP7 not make you a clone vendor?
Don't forget, a few manufacturers have already released their WP7 models, notably HTC, Samsung and LG.
Look what Windows had done to the PC market, apart from being forced to pay for the use of the OS manufactures are forced to place the windows logo on the keyboard or else they don't meet the requirement.
Now a prototype of a Nokia model running windows phone 7 already includes the windows logo on its face plate.
I believe Nokia could have been better served going to WebOS if they didn't want to focus on their Meego Meamo platform.
The real beneficiary in all this is Microsoft, who now have access to a decent GPS/Maps software.
Nokia has been taken over by Microsoft as far as I'm concerned.
@antixbaby
You don't usually buy a phone that you don't like. There are phone shop that have demo phones for you to test out, you know...
With Mr Elop as CEO, it was unlikely that Nokia would go Android. And despite your obvious bias, WP7 is a good phone OS. When the iPhone came out, it didn't have Copy and Paste, that came later. Will this MS-Nokia pair up work ? I'm sure some tenures at both companies will be very dependent on whether it does.
I look forward to owning a Nokia brand Windows 7 phone.
Android is popular with geeks, sure.
But as a business model, adopting Android means you're a clone vendor. Hardware is the only place you can differentiate, and the clone-makers are better and cheaper at it than you are.
WP7 may not be different at this point, but it is too early to know what NOK has been promised.
Ah guess not; kinda expected from the staff on this site all in good fun.
It was sorta a no brainer to figure somthing like this would happen. It does not spell anything for anyone except for the poor Nokia workforce that will be cut. Lets hope all the big tech companies take in a few of them. I would imagine that their is a large amount of talent in that batch.
This is probably MS best chance to creat a strong ecosystem without having to go at it alone. It will make Windows Phone ecosystem more solid. Also, probably open the door to the windows 8 tablet.
For nokia... well I was hoping for some Andriod stuff... Meegoo too. Maybe we will see some of that. It is a matter of if they keep enough resources to manage more tha one OS and supporting the products. I guess you do have to choose your battles when it comes to taken on the burden of supporting the products and the entire ecosystem which seems to be a must. If andriod was not as open, I think Google would have a hard time supporting it. The Nexus 1 is a good example of a good product with failure to provide enough support. Supporting platforms takes development too.
I DO HAVE A NOKIA N810 INTERNET TABLET (WELL, NOT ACTUALLY A TABLET AS DEFINED BY APPLE). ITS PRETTY GOOD, BUT I HAVEN'T TURNED IT ON SINCE I PICKED UP A COUPLE SECOND-HAND PSPs LAST MONTH FOR $50 AND THEN $40.
ROCK ON SONY! MARCUS, YOU WERE RIGHT :)
I'm getting Deja Vu all over again.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/aug09/08-12pixipr.mspx
How many of these "experts" have owned or used extensively, a Windows phone?
"So, something you have never seen is slightly less blue than something else..you have never seen?"