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Israel is behind the Stuxnet worm

By way of deception...
Mon Jan 17 2011, 09:25

THE NEW YORK TIMES (NYT) has claimed that the Stuxnet worm was a joint Israeli and US effort.

While the virus was penned by the Israelis, it appears that the US played a role in its development and testing.

The virus was tested at Israel's Dimona site, where they use "virtually identical" centrifuges to Iran's for the creation of their own massive nuclear arsenal.

Stuxnet infects Windows-based computers and targets Siemens' Step 7 industrial devices. According to unnamed experts in the NYT article the virus did massive damage to Iran's centrifuges, as well as their nuclear energy plant.

The attack was considered an alternative to an Israeli request for bunker busting bombs which could destroy the plant. It was thought that destroying the equipment could set the programme back three years. However the political fall out would be particularly bad.

In the end it was thought to give the virus attack a go. That way no one could be sure who did the attack and so the repercussions would be limited.

Officially both the US and the Israelis have played down the report. µ

 

 

 

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"their own massive nuclear arsenal"
Even self-proclaimed experts (and remember we have no clue really and israel won't even admit they have nukes) have as worst estimate the israeli number of nukes not exceed 10 or so, so in comparison I'd not call that massive.

@rv I can find any claim imaginable online, the reason some get more credit is that they try harder to have some evidence with some solidity, although that does not guarantee anything it does give some an ever so slight edge.

posted by : W.-, 18 January 2011 Complain about this comment
Blocked by facebook

Just goes to show how ANYTHING anti-israeli can be so easily blocked to stop it spreading anything bad against israel.

so much for democracy eh?

posted by : badman, 18 January 2011 Complain about this comment
@BB

Your confidence in your public utilities companies does you credit.

We all know that every man and woman they employ is steadfast, true and reliable. We all know they employ the strictest security and standards in all their work.

Everything the electric corp does is all highly secure and secret.....

Yeah right.

I give it a year. Start buying some candles.

posted by : jason, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
@rv & @BB

@rv
You're right. I've read that novel and it did come to mind during the events of that September, a few years ago. Kinda disconcerting!

@BB
The scary thing is that you could be wrong. The virus is available on the 'net. How long do you think it could take for someone to modify the code that causes it to target specific hardware? Perhaps it would then attack any of this type of system in any country and any industry.

See the Langner blog here:
http://www.langner.com/en/2010/12/26/the-short-path-from-cyber-missiles-to-dirty-digital-bombs/

posted by : NorthernSands, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
NorthernSands: Clancy novel idea

Oscar Wilde said "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all."

Well it seems that even Clancy's ideas get used in the real world. As you know Tom Clancy wrote "Debt of Honor" which ended with a JAL 747 being crashed into the Capital killing most of the Government. This was the idea that became reality. So keeping an idea in a book doesn't quite work either.

Clancy did not foretell the airplane attacks he distributed the idea to worldwide audience and that idea someone who would use it.

posted by : rv, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
NorthernSands: Clancy novel idea

Oscar Wilde said "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all."

Well it seems that even Clancy's ideas get used in the real world. As you know Tom Clancy wrote "Debt of Honor" which ended with a JAL 747 being crashed into the Capital killing most of the Government. This was the idea that became reality. So keeping an idea in a book doesn't quite work either.

Clancy did not foretell the airplane attacks he distributed the idea to worldwide audience and that idea someone who would use it.

posted by : rv, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
NorthernSands: Clancy novel idea

Oscar Wilde said "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all."

Well it seems that even Clancy's ideas get used in the real world. As you know Tom Clancy wrote "Debt of Honor" which ended with a JAL 747 being crashed into the Capital killing most of the Government. This was the idea that became reality. So keeping an idea in a book doesn't quite work either.

Clancy did not foretell the airplane attacks he distributed the idea to worldwide audience and that idea someone who would use it.

posted by : rv, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
This is news??

Debka has been all over this since last September. Now the New York Times reports it and it's treated as Gospel. Here's a REAL storey for you: Pakistan has turned over 2 nukes to Saudi Arabia. Again on Debka.com. But does the Western press report his little nugget of information?

posted by : rv, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
@jason

Well most of the sophistication of Stuxnet is that it specifically targets certain hardware, not really all the other trojan delivery and hiding methods. So unless someone has intimate knowledge of US power grids and whatever else the risk is pretty low, or at least no greater than with run-the-mill trojans and viruses.

posted by : BB, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
Grammar

"Less dicks on the internet I guess. So has an upside."

FEWER dicks, please. But yes.

posted by : BadgerButt, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
Old news ...

Can't access the NYT article but ... I thought everyone knew Israel + USA was behind this already? Since September or something. The whole they're-the-only-ones-with-the-equipment, the INL connection, etc. Or have the NYT dug up something new?

posted by : Cynic, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
Hmmm paybacks a bitch

I read with interest and a raised eyebrow a lot of comments from american folks when the original story broke, going "Woooot way to go dude! Coooool, take those Iranians down..yayyy!" etc. etc.

I couldnt help but think how "cool" it will appear when someone modifies it and lets it run wild on the US power and gas grids.

Less dicks on the internet I guess. So has an upside.

posted by : jason, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
Scary

I hope I'm not the only who finds the concept of this virus particularly scary! Having just read the New Scientist article on the virus, it does make you stop and think.

The sensationalist idea (whether true or not) that the virus was developed and tested in the US and Israel, specifically to target Iran's Nuclear program, sounds like something straight out of a modern Tom Clancy / Clive Cussler novel. I, for one, would like the idea to stay there!

posted by : NorthernSands, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
May I draw your attention...

... to the difference between

"Israel is behind the Stuxnet worm" (your headline)

and

"THE NEW YORK TIMES (NYT) has claimed that the Stuxnet worm was a joint Israeli and US effort" (your actual story)?

The NYT has claimed all manner of things (notably, of course, that Iraq had WMD) which turned out to be completely untrue.

As a reliable source, I would place it somewhere between Pravda in the 1960s and a New Labour press release.

posted by : Tom Welsh, 17 January 2011 Complain about this comment
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