UK government wants porn opt-in

Unfortunately, it is quite feasable. I recently bought a modem from Vodaphone and it blocked all adult sites. It wasn't a problem until I found that it blocked a Formula 1 site. I had to get it unblocked for that and take the comments from the sales woman.

I'm not going to wade in on whether it's morally right or wrong for people (or adolescents for that matter) to watch porn. why? because it's irrelevant.

Google estimates that upwards of 60% of the internet is pornography. That's at least several billion web pages. In short, it is not technically possible to block pornography on the net and all the filters in the world won't change that, there's just far too much of it for any filter to have any hope of working.

To quote the head of BT "it would only stop inadvertent access" and I can tell you, I cannot think of a single one of my peers who has accessed porn, who accessed it "inadvertently". You can't censor the internet, it just isn't
possible.

The ISPs kinda mamaged it with child porn but that's only 95% effective and, as is shown whenever the media come across another paedophile, people who are determined to access it still manage to build up collections of thousands of images, and that's with only a few thousand web pages broadcasting the stuff.

The moral issues are irrelevant because it's not technically possible to block standard pornography. Personally, what worries me more is that we have a minister like Ed Vaizey in charge of this who doesn't seem to have the first clue of how it works.

To conclude, it is technically impossible to put anything more than a light filter on some of the most obvious sites so don't argue about the morals, it can't be done.

Real reason is instant firewalling of protest sites, stop the democratic voters from getting organised and having a real democracy. Politicians foam at the mouth when offered more power, here is power to turn off the internet. I'm sure this is porn for politicans.

If the police can close down over 30 websites that students were using to organise protests, why do they need this new tool of power? Why did the police close down those 30 sites?

I hope that the student protests remain angry and confrontational.

But the real problem are the fools who vote for the greedy soulless types like Nick Clegg and David Cameron. Then those same fools complain they've been hoodwinked. However Labour did need bringing down to size, Brown was a good politician but not a leader.

Do we have democracy when we cannot vote on the laws that govern us?

Bet this pompous ass has a massive porn collection!

I really don't understand how anyone has any respect for MPs, especially when it is so obvious what an unlawful farce our current democracy is.

I am no Micheal Savage savage fan and disagree with the majority of what he says but banning him from this country was an indication of quite how we have become.

As Keith Vaz once pointed out, we no longer have free speech in this country and he helped vote to make it that way. The current government shows no sign of reversing these decisions.

Anyhow having so willingly given up so much of our liberty so far are you going to let them inconvenience your porn? or is that striking bellow the belt now.

M Savage or Michael Savage is a right wing american talk radio host who has been banned from entering the UK by our dear leaders.

Our government deemed his words were not fit for British ears, and you unfit to make up your own minds.

He did then visit london after having been banned and broadcast a show from here just for the sake of it.

Gawd, have these politicians got too much time on their hands or something??? This country is in a mess, and they're farting around trying to ban porn on the net? It's up to the parents of kids to block porn, you nanny-staters.

Please, please, reaffirm my faith in people by telling me that was a savage satirical parody of conservative viewpoints and not really your honest-to-goodness opinion.

You realise that there wasn't a single objective argument in your post, right? And I have no idea what the point of your opening statement was supposed to be... are you classing women and the elderly in the same category as rapists and the mentally handicapped? [Incidentally, the incident rate of rape is far higher in countries that ban pornography].

Obviously, porn isn't for everyone and certainly shouldn't be made available to children: but isn't it the parents' job to make sure that their kids aren't exposed to confusing or harmful content, whatever media distributes it? To quote a great fictional politician: 'Don't tell me I can't eat steak, just because a baby can't chew it.'

While arguably less important than the right to freedom of speech or worship, we are nonetheless entitled to moderate our own media consumption, according to our own tastes and values. I personally am offended by the inane, insipid, vacuous nature of the bulk of TV programming. I consider the media's celebration of mediocrity, its perverse and pervasive veneration of vapid, superficial celebrities, to be far more socially damaging than hardcore pornography ever could be. I look upon reality television as a cultural scourge, doing its best to lobotomise its audiences. However, I'm not calling for a ban on any of these things - as much as I might like to - because I'm not so conceited as to believe myself qualified to pass a moral judgement on behalf of the whole country, or even the rest of my street.

What I can do instead is make a choice to not watch those things that I find offensive. I can switch over the channel, or turn off the TV completely. And that's fine. That's good enough for me. No one can make me watch content that I abhor. Similarly, the viewing of skin flicks has never been made mandatory. You are free, Mr. Savage, to watch as much or as little pornography as you want to. I suggest you exercise that right, and allow everybody else to do the same.

Ban all pornography
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Posted By: Mr. M. Savage.

There's no need to be melodramatic, the author suggested no moral right or wrong in any topic, he only brought up the national censoring that Mr. Vaizey thinks would be a good idea.
(it wouldn't be a good idea. why? he'd also have to ban all top-shelf magazines, TV channels.... corporate pressure would jackknife such an idea WELL before it mattered.)

as for your comment:
There's nothing wrong with adult entertainment and even if there was, it would be a purely moral standpoint and thus based on your own subjective judgement... no scientific evidence in the world exists that can conclusively demonstrate that pornography causes social, moral or cultural degredation.

Children are already prohibited from watching it but if they accidentally stumble into it -or much more likely, go looking for it actively as their hormones lead them to be interested in it- then that's an issue for parents or their legal guardians to step in and take responsibility for what their children have access to.... website filtering, adult-content filtering, all these things exist and even if you're not tech savvy, there's always the following:

if the child is so young as to need guidance or filtering on the internet, then why the heck are the people responsible not looking over ther shoulders or keeping their access in a public part of the house?

as for your 'list' of who would be able to access it, why do you specifically include rapists, the mentally disabled and woman [sic]?
rape has nothing to do with pornography, nor does mental illness, and as for why it would be 'wrong' for women to watch porn, I'll leave it for someone else to point out why that's completely ignorant of you.

I can only hope your comment is somehow meant to be satire or sarcasm, but even if it is, It's still a very narrow-minded viewpoint to express.

Get real Mr Savage and ill welcome you to the 21st century. Im 20 years old and have grown up in this digital age we live in, and in your comment it makes it seem like porn is a central part of everyones lifes, bringing up sweet innocent "school children" and corrupting them. Get real, yes when I was in year ten at school me and my m8 watched a video on the internet and just had a right laugh about it, I havent turned into some sex crazed maniac.

If married men think that its wrong to watch it and they have the right morals then they wont watch it.However I do not see the problem with them watching it. Neither do I see the problem with teenagers watching it and those "school kids" you mention would be 14 to 16 year olds roughly the ages when your going through puberty of course their gonna watch it. you make it look as if its a bunch of six year olds.

Unnatural, unhealthy? Masturbation has many health advantages.

http://www.menshealth.com/health/health-and-sexual-benefits-masturbation

You do not even know what your talking about when it comes to this subject. Especially since you think its actually possible for the goverment to get ISPs to block porn, ISPs wouldnt do for fear of user switching to other broadband services and even if they did want to block it they couldnt, you cant censor the whole of the internet, its impossible, again an example that you dont know what your talking about.

Get real, welcome to the 21st century this is how things are done now. Grow up.

"only 15 per cent of computer literate parents thought they knew how to block access with filters"

or

"only 15 per cent of computer literate parents knew how to block the most obvious sites with filters"

@Mr. M. Savage "..ban all pornography coming into the country.."

Looks like Mr. M. Savage simply wishes to protect the production of UK-made pornography. (In which case he is advocating an illegal restraint of trade under E.U. rules.)

Personally, I'm more concerned about kids learning how to be dishonest, so for that reason, I'd prefer it if all sites which quote politicians were "opt-in".

That way, I wouldn't have to worry about my kids inadvertently finding Vaizey's repeated inanities! In a government of bumblers, Vaizey seems particularly pout of his depth.

You agree with pornography for all bar peodophiles do you Mr Coppinger?

Pornography for men? married men? young adults? teenagers? school kids? children on their father's/their own PC? old men, rapists, mentally retarded, woman...

I agree with Mr Vaizey and Mrs Perry; ban all pornography coming into the country: it's sinful, degrading, invading, permissive, perverting, corrosive, corrupting, addictive, explicit, extorting, anti-family, anti-society, anti-Christian, unnatural, unhealthy, anathema.