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ATI takes Nvidia down in a laptop benchmark test
IN A LIKE FOR LIKE TEST on a laptop, AMD's ATI Radeon Mobility HD5870 Crossfirex has taken down Nvidia's Geforce GTX480M.
Nvidia was shown the door in, not one, or two, but three different performance areas using 3dmark06 graphics benchmarking software. The Geforce GTX480M with 2GB of GDDR5 scored 15626 3dmarks in the benchmark test. Using the same laptop, two ATI Radeon Mobility HD5870s in CrossFirex with 1GB GDDR5 per card scored 18274 3dmarks.
Eurocom, which ran the tests on its high performance Leopard laptop, said the HD5870 Crossfirex configuration outperformed the Geforce GTX480M by approximately 17 per cent at default settings.
ATI got another win because the Radeon HD5870 Crossfirex configuration is priced about £150 less than Nvidia's more expensive Geforce GTX480M graphics hardware.
But Eurocom reported that the ATI GPUs' knockout blow to Nvidia's Fermi GPU came in a thermal performance comparison. Nvidia had 100W powering its GPU while the ATI configuration used 55W for each of two GPUs for 110W total. In the tests the ATI GPUs managed 17 per cent higher performance while using only 10 per cent more power.
The tests were conducted on Eurocom's 18.4-inch high-end Leopard laptop. It supports both Nvidia and ATI graphics in SLI or Crossfire mode and Eurocom designed it with big copper heatsinks to cope with higher heat generation.
Eurocom hasn't put a price on the laptop but it was running an Intel Core i7 940XM CPU, had 4GB of DDR3 RAM and a 256GB SSD drive. We suspect it won't be cheap. µ
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"The EUROCOM X8100 Leopard is capable of supporting ... a single VGA card at 100 Watts. Both configurations in the press release are well below thermal specifications with ... one NVIDIA Geforce GTX 480M at 100 Watts."
So, Eurocom X8100 can support 100W max single card. Using the single card GTX 480M at 100W is, per PR, well below specs...
Numbers? who needs numbers?! we are the best with quite a margin!
"Workstations are highly upgradeable and built to withstand unintentional abuse with metal plating and heavy duty plastics throughout"
So dont diss our laptops or we will test on u. Grrrr
The EUROCOM X8100 Leopard is capable of supporting two VGA cards at 75 Watts per card totaling 150 Watts or a single VGA card at 100 Watts. Both configurations in the press release are well below thermal specifications with two Ati Radeon Mobility HD5870 cards at 55 Watts per card totaling 110 Watts and one NVIDIA Geforce GTX 480M at 100 Watts.
EUROCOM X8100 Leopard supports the following VGA configurations:
1)Single VGA card operation - up to 100Watt TDP
-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M (100W); GTX 285M (75W); GTX 280M (75W); GTS 360M (65W)
-NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3800M (100W); FX 2800M (75W)
-Ati Radeon Mobility HD5870 (55W)
2) Dual VGA card operation - SLI or CrossFireX up to 75Watt per card
-SLI: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285M at 75W/card (total 150W)
-CrossFireX: 2x Ati Radeon Mobility HD5870 at 55W per card (total 110W)
Eurocom has been producing high end Mobile Workstations since 1986. Eurocom Mobile Workstations are highly upgradeable and built to withstand unintentional abuse with metal plating and heavy duty plastics throughout. Eurocom has produced many firsts, such as manufacturing the first notebooks with 64-bit capability, SLI technology, RAID 10, Xeon, a 20-inch LCD panel and a full-size 102-key keyboard.
If you have any further concerns or questions please feel free to email Eurocom Public Relations at eurocomnews@eurocom.com or visit www.eurocom.com.
Thank you,
Eurocom Public Relations
Who buys top-end graphics and sits around and plays 3dmark06 at default settings? Which one does better with super high quality settings? Which one does better at actual games? Does it still beat NVIDIA under Linux, where some people spend all of their time?
According to the 3dmark website, they estimate that the 8800 GTX will score better than the 8800 Ultra (higher clocked 8800 GTX). I think it shows about what the benchmark is worth
Yes, it is two 5870's. However, we're talking performance per dollar. The configuration with the two Radeons costs less than the one with one GeForce 480.
So, the Radeon solution is cheaper and performs better.
And, it's not like nVidia can double up and offer a higher performance level in the same way; 200watts of GPU's stuffed in a laptop would be a really bad idea.
Its important to note that it was beat by TWO 5870's in crossfirex not one. Two 5870's, even the stipped down mobile ones, had better be able to be able to beat one gtx480M. This article states the obvious and im not sure I would call that a takedown. ATI has been doing very well for themselves lately though.
-Tom R.
I have a friend who has bought a few of these high-end 'boutique' laptops over the years and all of them have had major hardware faults. They spend more time back at the manufacturers (often having to be sent back overseas) than on his desk.
The reason is most are made by small firms with low R&D costs so system testing is pretty minimal. You then start packing all these high-end (read hot) parts in an enclosed space and problems start. Plus as these high-end mobile parts are very low volume the hardware folks such as ATI/Nvidia do jack in terms of support.
That and as these are put together by small firms they may not be in business in 6 months time.
By all means buy a powerful enough laptop for your needs but stay far away from these boutique machines. More trouble than they are dubiously worth.
never understood why would anyone buy a hugely overpriced lugable (except for extreme space issues) over a tricked-out desktop with more oomph for less £££
more money than sense (or space)