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AMD will dump the ATI brand

Replacing it with Vision, Radeon and Firepro
Mon Aug 30 2010, 11:00

CULLING BRANDS will be AMD's corporate makeover activity this year and next with ATI and other segment brands being dropped and replaced by Vision, Radeon and Firepro.

AMD executives expect the demise of ATI as a brand to begin in the fourth quarter of this year and end by September 2011. Only existing products will continue to use the ATI logo in 2011. New products will immediately take on the AMD Radeon and AMD Firepro logos but even the reference to the company is expected to be dropped in due course.

"We want to simplify the buying experience. We'll complete this within a year and that is giving it a lot more time than it would require," AMD said. Surveys of consumers found that the vast majority of punters are aware of the ATI takeover by AMD, giving the company the confidence it can dump the brand.

In AMD's brand culling, its references to particular chips will also go in addition to the ATI brand, as the Athlon, Phenom and Turion brands will disappear and be replaced by the non-chip specific Vision brand.

AMD's combined CPU and GPU Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) Fusion products will fall under the chip designer's Vision brand as well.

However AMD will continue its Opteron brand for its line of server chips. µ

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@interested_party

The confusing product naming scheme is deliberate. If the average consumer knew exactly what he was buying, he'd buy the cheapest product that met his needs. If the consumer is confused, he'll buy based on price, thinking more expensive = more powerful.

Look at how many times these same manufacturers have repackaged existing chips under different names and charged extra for last season's product.

That's why these executives keep getting bonuses.

posted by : Jon, 02 September 2010 Complain about this comment
It could work.

AMD Vision 1xxx for the low end.
AMD Vision 3xxx for the mid range.
AMD Vision 5xxx for the high end.

As new more powerful and efficient chips become available then the 2xxx, 4xxx, and 6xxx could become available.

7xxx, 8xxx and 9xxx could be kept for future tech, or mobile or server products etc.

Of course the number of cores should be included in the name, perhaps the 2nd letter should be number of cores?

Intel's new I3, I5, and I7, plus their other Q8800 or whatever they are called have absolutely no meaning to me apart from a rough idea that an I7 is the most powerful (usually).

Intel's naming is nearly useless in that I just don't know what processor someone needs for regular surfing and light gaming? Heavy gaming? Video production? Combination of the above?

AMD could go back to the old 1800+, 2000+, 2200+ naming scheme. That was easy to understand as was there X2, X3 or X4 for number of cores.

And please put a LG or HG marker on the cpu as well, Light Gaming and Heavy Gaming. etc.

Building a new gaming pc requires several evening's reading a number of reviews and test results. It shouldn't be this tough.

posted by : interested_party, 02 September 2010 Complain about this comment
Translation: we want to justify our continued employment

Things must be pretty slack at AMD if the execs need to have a brand reorg to make them look busy.

I do like "Vision" as a brand, though. Vague enough to tell you nothing whatsoever, and sufficiently reminiscent of "Vista" to be tainted by association. Kudos for that.

Still, Im glad they "want to simplify the buying experience", because remembering to buy an AMD chip and an ATI graphics card was far too difficult.

posted by : Anonymous Coward, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
"Will"? It's already happening...

Currys are already advertising AMD Vision branded laptops.

As for confusion, I assumed this was a reference to the graphics powering the system. Seems I was wrong!

Good luck to AMD, no-one knows who they are compared to Intel. Whether this is the right way to got about changing this is another thing entirely.

posted by : Paul, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
RE: hanging out with national semi

What an idiotic statement, AMD didn't axe a project, they changed a name, the ATI team is still going on designing top of the range graphics chips.

Personally I think this is fine, a step in the right direction, the only thing I feel AMD should clean up is their CPU OEM market which is feared for it's horrible handling of CPU's(bended pins and so on)

posted by : Kim-Leo, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
hanging out with national semi

Methinks that the AMD execs have been having lunch too often with their neighbors across the street: National Semiconductor. A company who once had their chips in every computer. Their accounting execs have bright ideas like "lets axe that salt lake city design team who's working on a $1bil project..."
No, I didn't have any personal ties to that foulup at all -.-
AMD should stay away from their neighbors.

posted by : Esmartuek, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Vision for a CPU?

This makes no sense!

I would expect them to call the GPU 'Vision'

Athlon is a fricken awesome name, Phenom is also pretty good.

Dropping these names for "Vision" sounds idiotic.

Although, as long as it's AMD, I'll buy it - Intel is too much of a ripoff!

posted by : Agent24, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
ATI Athlon/Radeon sounds better...

Seriously, dump the AMD name and don't look back, paint everything red and rebrand as "the new ATI". Will never happen but ATI imo is a much better brand. Would you rather have an AMD cpu? Or perhaps one of ATI's new cpus? A different name in the cpu market alone should be worth a little scratch.

posted by : jem, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Simplify ?

And to simplify even more, as they used to do with cpus, they'll keep the stupid ratings

Vision 2000
Vision 2E
Vision P200
Vision u1000+
Vision X10 2.3E
....

posted by : Francois, 31 August 2010 Complain about this comment
They have it backwards!

They need to drop the AMD name, since it's a loser, and go with ATI, which is a winner.

posted by : Ken, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
:D

This will work as AMD has the GPU market wrapped up. Nvidia posted a loss. I'll use either, but It's been a while since I heard of someone buying a high end Nvidia GPU, everyone just gets a Radeon 5870, or 5970. This will help the AMD brand a lot when someone asks for the fastest GPU for a price or even the fastest GPU for any price, only to discover it's an AMD product.

Imagine intel fans when they discover, that to have the best gaming system you will have to add an AMD product to your intel cpu and motherboard.

posted by : kuroneko, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Tied to Whipping POST....Good Lord, ATI gonna DIE.

Execution Squad Load 6XXX, Razor Arms, FIRE. Ha,ha.

Well when DAAMIT First Conspired against theWORLD-Dumbo, Seemed Unique & Heavy deal. Pundits considered internal War between Dresden & Canada. Experts Predicted English Would Crucify older AMD Element, Things Fell to fantastic Low, near Bankrupt.

yet, hard to beat Time&Charges. Now AMD is shawingings back up from $6 last week, after rapid Fall. ALL n' Wonder, Where Are YOU. Probably only real Loser.

New Product, Vis.ect ion could be real ?undoing for Engineering team, too Easy. Those Cards Donnnut come aparts so good anyway, although Tastee hdmi port could use some extra flavor, EyeFinity seemed like whole Salad Was Just Getting to: ALL You Can Eat gourmet style. What About little RED Toematoe. F-T Where Are You.Buzzz,Crack,Snap-Yes i Will Invent New Monster.

Fertizler on AMD, Add Hurricane & Bloom. BTW as daneile wobbled over to greenland, landfall Dis coming friday morning, EARL was pulled to sea, now moving back towards East Coast. Watch Ani on ATi, I Will Tort That Bugger, to Death. HEAD SHOT.

vondrashek md

posted by : Der Commandant...., 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Not a bad idea.

Some of the comments above are just what I expected from the Mountain Dew PC enthusiast brigade.

Outside the small (read minute) band of enthusuasts and industry folks 99.9% of the rest of the world hasnt much heard of AMD let alone ATI.

Go ask 100 Joe Publics what AMD and ATI make and I bet you'll be lucky to find 10 that know of AMD and maybe 5 or less that know ATI.

90 will at least know Intel if they are under the age of 70.

AMD/ATI are next to worthless as brands (great company though) so it's no hard to reduce the useless brands by 50%.

However, the only fly in the ointment is that it's all very well AMD reorganising its brands but not much use if you still dont bother actually marketing or promoting them to the general public. AMD moans constantly that it gets the sharp end of the stick but Intel does at least push its products hard. Thats partly why they sell so many. Well done Intel for making the effort.

AMD's future lies with the average PC user. It's time to get a jingle boys.

posted by : jason, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
WHAT??

This is suppose to help them compete with Intel, HOW?? DO we have some Balmer type idiot running AMD now?? WTF?? This isn't going to "simplify" the buying experience for anyone. This is going to push people in the direction of Apple and other Intel vendors. All Intel has to do now is lower prices and who will be interested in AMD Vision then? Glad I got one of the last AMD Athlon 64 X2's before the big corporate screw up.

posted by : Frank Black, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Confused!

However AMD will continue its Opteron brand for its line of server chips.

Oh Thank God! Because we dumbasses buying servers and highend processors would have been confused if the name changed!!

Good thing there are plenty of average joe's around with the know-how.. so i have someone to lean on!

posted by : Brunis, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
What? lol

These 'executives' really don't know their 'stuff' at all. It is funny how there are, almost always, stupid and incompetent people at the top, and somehow they think their position makes them excellent in an area they don't know much about.

Expect identity loss and coupled with that revenue and stock fall. I love AMD/ATI products, but this is just stupid grasping for straws of change.

posted by : Psihomodo, 30 August 2010 Complain about this comment
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