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US government interrogates a Wikileaks associate
THE US GOVERNMENT, which was formed by French backed terrorists in the former British colonies of North America south of Canada on the pretext that the common folk would be a bit freer, has apparently started rounding up geeks at its borders to ask them if they know anything about Wikileaks or Tor.
On his way home from a security conference Jacob Appelbaum, a Seattle-based programmer for the online privacy protection project Tor, arrived at the Newark, New Jersey airport from Holland on a flight Thursday morning when he was pulled aside by US Customs and Fatherland Homeland Security agents.
According to Cnet, he was initially told that it was just a routine security search but it turned out that he was detained and questioned for three hours about Wikileaks.
Appelbaum, a US citizen, was taken into a room, frisked and his bag was searched. Anything in it that was in written form was photocopied and his laptop was scanned.
Officials from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the US Army then told him he was not under arrest but that he was being detained, the sources said.
They then proceeded to ask him about his opinions regarding the arguably illegal wars launched by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan and demanded he tell them the whereabouts of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.
He told them to go forth and multiply unless he had a lawyer present, but he was not allowed to call one.
After about three hours, Appelbaum was given his laptop back, but the agents kept his three mobile phones, sources said. Obviously a techie who needs three mobile phones must be a terrorist, or at least knows some.
Later at the Defcon conference he was approached by FBI agents who were apparently also interested in having a word.
Appelbaum did not make many friends in the US government with his speech at Defcon, either. He urged the throngs to support Wikileaks by volunteering or donating money.
He challenged current US foreign policy and called for civil disobedience through exposing the heavily guarded secrets of the US imperium.
"You can try to take us down... but you can't stop us," he said. µ
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Let's get something straight here: both the welfare state AND the warfare state are going to be coming to an end in the not-so-distant future. Technology alone will emancipate us and allow us to live without the sanction of governments on planet Earth in the near future. Eventually it will allow people to violently revolt if they so choose (and they will).
The only good government is no government. People need take responsibility for their own safety, their own property, and their own liberty. The good news is like I said before, technology is a far greater asset to the individual than it is to the state.
I'm sure the US Government could just kick itself for inventing the engine of its own demise: the internet. Something like the internet was inevitable, though. It was going to happen one way or another as an outgrowth of telecommunications and computer technology whether a government funded it or not. And now that the internet exists, it cannot be gotten rid of as it is essential for business productivity and economic competitiveness (as the UAE is finding out by trying to ban Blackberry services).
The dirty little secret is that many libertarians are not just libertarians on principle, we're libertarians because liberty *works*. It's simply how the laws of physics are coded in this universe. Fight against the laws of physics at your own peril.
This is also interesting for what reveals about the security state, especially that ISP EULAs are the technical "legality" that enables spying because "agreed" to:
http://blogs.forbes.com/firewall/2010/08/01/stealthy-government-contractor-monitors-u-s-internet-providers-says-it-employed-wikileaks-informant/
libkicker - what planet are you on?
knoblicker would be a more appropriate name for you
get back in your cage!
Stupid liberals can't spell either. Work on your sentence stucture......forget it, just shut up.
usa is a prison state utilising illusion politics
wake up people!
You're a joke, first of all, Obama, Liberal? He's center right, which makes him more of a conservative. Must suck being an idiot all your life? Not being able to chenge or learn anything other than: Roar teabag this is my country bla bla bla.
This is why I love theinq they write articles in this interesting and entertaining way where they inject some unpleasent facts that makes ultra-right wingnuts like Atlas uncomfortable.
The only reason obama scaled up afghanistan was to try to apease the conservative/republicans. Dumb ass bush was already in afghanistan before obama even considered it. Then dumb ass obama continues to try to please the republicans/conservatives as if they are ever going to see past their conservative/republican 3d glases.
You guys should really watch yourself, your begining to make yourselves look goofy. And on immigration and minority issues, racist. Its so freaking weird seeing a monority that represents himself as a republican, kinda like the skit that dave chapelle did on being a klan member.
The US government cannot handle memes/sources which have a mind of their own and are free, and out there, and putting it out there for all to see and hear/democratically peer review. They would rather prefer the cover of trojan/adversary/competition which they cannot contain and/or apprehend and which thus permits the invention of outrageous cynical command and control agendas, to best cope with the scenarios they would be planning to perpetuate a phantom ghost foe, now made more powerful by the ignorance and arrogance of its zealous drivers/idiotic robots?
In the end, it very quickly leads to self destruction and anarchic chaos as the head devours its own creation/the dog chews its own tail.
"They then proceeded to ask him about his opinions regarding the arguably illegal wars launched by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan..."
Actually, it was Saddam himself that told the US and the UN to go to war with him. He purposely broke the cease-fire agreement almost weekly, eventually inducing the liberal President Clinton to launch a barrage of missiles into Iraq.
The cease-fire agreement from the first Gulf War said that if Saddam broke any part of the agreement, war would ensue again.
I love liberals. They can't make sense of anything happening around them. Strangely, liberal President 0bama thinks the only justified war is the one in Afghanistan.
It must really suck to be a liberal.
This is excellent news, this assures that people like him don'r get 'on board' and start to add spyware for homeland security glorious fatherland.
Unless this whole thing is a ruse of course.
when he's been on the Colbert Report and other public appearances. The surveillance state doesn't seem overly competent compared to show producers.
I lean toward Wikileaks being an intelligence operation. Yes, it put out a damning video, but that *could* be just to build credibility for this document dump. The thrust of the "info" there seems to be arguing for invading Pakistan and / or Iran, because "al-Qaeda" is hiding there.
So. This "associate" and alleged "interrogation" may be just more fostering a myth, same as police now and then appear to rough up an inmate to convince another to trust him.
By the way, when offered the red pill or the blue pill, don't take either; you *cannot* trust *anything* you're told these days. The real goal of even offering a choice is constrain your thoughts from third or more choices.
Just like the Southpark EP about preist molesting children, they were more worried about stopping the kids ratting out the preist than stopping the molestation.
So goes our gov, more worried about stopping the information on how corrupt they are than stopping the corruption.
Shame on the traitors that put the US in this position by commiting the crimes in the first place.