Apple knew that the Iphone 4 was a lemon

Apple hired new antenna engineers recently, ones that would agree that antennas aren't really useful to cell phones. The ones mentioned above clearly would have gotten the Jobsian axe after such dissension over his majesties latest magical bestowal upon us mere mortals. And if they aren't totaly tards, hopefully they have some mystical unicorn sauce to help the iPhone 5 actually make calls.

Seriously , its hilarious you want your phones to look and work as well as the iPhone soo muchs it s burns, the sheer envy coming though yours posts has me in stiches.

Oh by the way I havea HTC HD2 win mob 6.5 cuts out lots of times, and sometimes the op will freeze, but you know what, I just reset it and get on with my life.

You may want to do the same ;)

So a few of us sat around a table today doing deathgrips on our various phones. One was using the BlackBerry 9700, I had the Samsung Omnia II in particular... neither of us could reproduce the dropping that St. Jobs did in his conference. Interesting to note is that the guy with me who has the 9700 is an engineer at RIM and thought that the 9700 used by Jobs looked like one of the prototypes or earlier builds (which he noted did have antenna problems), not the current release. Also, it looks like the Omnia II that Jobs is using is missing a few buttons that my Omnia II has.

Could dear old St Jobs be misleading the world yet again?

I have a fix for the iphone. It consists of an adhesive backed vinyl sticker of an apple you place over the gap on the antenna. I call it...(wait for it)..the ipatch.

The Engadget coverage of the press conference indicates:

- A free case will be given to all Iphone4 owners, and a refund if you have already spent $30.00 on one of their "bumper" rubber-bandish cases. They based this on the Consumer Reports quote that "the bumper solves the signal strength problems". So they seem to have taken the cheapest way out possible (and of course, if Consumer Reports revises their statement again, the can of worms will be reopened).

- Announced full refunds with no "restocking fee" for anyone who is not happy with their Iphone4 (as long as it is undamaged, so Whoopi Goldberg is out of luck). If you have had it for more than 30 days, however, they apparently no longer care if you are "happy" or not.

- No mention was made of discoloured screens/yellow spots, or delaminating glass, or poor WiFi performance AKAIK. Maybe the "free cases" cover the screens, too and hold the glass onto the frame? And there may be a better way to hold the phones for WiFi use.

- They announced that (since their "software update" seemed to be unsuccessful on the antenna issue) that they would be trying this same route to "fix" the broken proximity sensors. This despite some users claiming that more recent versions of the Iphone4 they have obtained via exchange of their old phones have prox. sensors which are different and easily visible through the front cover, and which work much better. So depending upon another "software update" to fix this other hardware-related problem might not be very wise, especially if it means hanging onto an Iphone for more than the 30 day "gotcha" period.

I still think that if one were to arrive at an Apple Store with a 31+ day old Iphone4 and claim you either wanted ALL your money back or would sign on to a class-action lawsuit, that they would happily give you back your money and you could use it to buy a more reliable Android phone.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/

Yeah, Apple, where's your perfect products now? Now you're as big as Microsoft, congrats, but also as flawed.

Now the only remaining difference between Apple and Microsoft is the price. Microsoft overprices everything, while Apple charges 3 times that.

As for the Apple whores [amazingly they still exist] accusing INQ of bias, I got to tell you that newspapers from all around the world are putting Apple on shame, as deserved.

I'm only glad that Apple doesn't sell life support products, better buy they from China.

Keep'em coming, INQ.

I find it (almost) surprising that the same people who are so hell-bent on buying the latest and greatest from Apple are content to accept a critical product defect and reduce themselves to the level of putting tape on their shiny new gizmo to make it work like even the cheapest of phones should. It's like buying a sports car, and having to stick duct tape on hood to keep it from rattling.

And you people accept this?

What kind of spineless, low standards do you people have? When you buy food and the package is opened, and the food inside is partially spoiled do you just go "oh well, I'll just eat this spoiled food because I'm a spineless worm"?

If I paid even $20 for a new phone I wouldn't accept that the phone would cut out just from HOLDING the damn thing. No. I would return the DEFECTIVE product and get my money back because I paid for a complete phone, not one I have to stick tape or rubberbands or other kinds of retrofitted junk to. Even if I were still enamored by the phone's features, I would still be outraged that it isn't a COMPLETE product, and DEMAND that Apple remedy the solution.

What's wrong with you people? Is this really the customer base that Apple attracts? Apologetic, spineless worms that will accept and be grateful for the remains and feces that Apple deigns to toss them? I guess you really do "think different."

From the report I've just read, Jobs made a convincing show that it's *not* that big a deal for a overall sleek design -- as *I've* stated here, since I deal only in what I believe true -- and they're giving out free cases, plus refunds for those who bought one.

I think that's *probably* adequate, as PR, and it may even work because it's *TRUE*.

The constant Apple fanbois exposure and bashing on the message boards is hilarious. Jobs is scum and the iphone is n't gonna be on top for long. The only thing Apple has that others haven't completely matched in functionality is iTunes.

Nick you would have to be impartial to begin with you have long ago sold your soul to the Vole and call anyone who disagrees with you a Fanboy. Just look at the titles of your articles have you ever written one complimenting Apple? Go on and Kiss Ballmer A__.

I agree with some of the other commenters here, that this is being blow out of proportion a little. There are very easy fixes (rubber band, scotch tape), and there are some very innovative 3rd party solutions to Apple's iPhone4 "Death Grip" issue like this one here: http://consumerist.com/2010/07/how-to-fix-iphone-4-death-grip-issue.html The market will of course sort this one out - employers who want to be able to contact their employees will avoid the phone (like the plague), while employees who don't want to be contacted will likely flock to the expensive fruit-themed device. I do understand that some owners of iPhones will be upset to learn that their device does not actually operate as a phone very well, but this will serve as a very important life-lesson to them to wait (3rd party testing) before buying a new product (caveat emptor).

I was wanting to know more about The Great Leader and found a really great biography: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Steve_Jobs

I am now in awe! This man can do no wrong!

I agree with some of the other commenters here, that this is being blow out of proportion a little. There are very easy fixes (rubber band, scotch tape), and there are some very innovative 3rd party solutions to Apple's iPhone4 "Death Grip" issue like this one here: http://consumerist.com/2010/07/how-to-fix-iphone-4-death-grip-issue.html The market will of course sort this one out - employers who want to be able to contact their employees will avoid the phone (like the plague), while employees who don't want to be contacted will likely flock to the expensive fruit-themed device. I do understand that some owners of iPhones will be upset to learn that their device does not actually operate as a phone very well, but this will serve as a very important life-lesson to them to wait (3rd party testing) before buying a new product (caveat emptor).

..You'll look really cool if you all jump off a cliff.

Now 'fanbois'/apple-dweebs..

..3, 2, 1, GO !

Anyone who complains about the issue just wants to complain and find a flaw with this brilliant phone. If you had an iPhone 4 you would realise that it's not a big deal atall, yes I can replicate the 'death grip' if i hold my hand there for a LONG period of time, but it has not affected me in normal usage whatsoever. Stop complaining.

I'm counting the minutes until the press conference, but don't even have a guess as to how they'll spin it.

No one seems to have picked up Narg's excellent suggestions to *feature* The Bumper as an *improvement*. That'd be my choice for how to play it -- from here -- but Apple has never listened to me, even though I told them to put some real hardware into their gutless wonders, and even less when I giggle over their switch to Intel. Sigh.

I'm certainly not a fan of the iPhail 4, but I can appreciate aesthetics. It's a good looking gadget - and the solution to the crazy hardware faults is to ruin the design by putting a condom on it? Most of the iDiots that feel the urge to pour their life savings into buying one of these things do it, not for the class-beating features (of which there are very few), but because of the marketing hype about how "sleek and cool" it is and because it's pretty.

Yeah... that rubber bumper's *really* sleek, cool and pretty.

This is something that I could have expected of Sinclair - a lovely design, but doesn't actually work.

Recall the bloody thing, Steve.

Just what I would expect from an aretical by the inquirer

Jobs is P.T.Barnum reincarnate.

There's a sucker born every minute.