The Iphone 3G is selling well

The iPhone 4 Antenna issue is not even a small portion of the phone market with like issues under stranger circumstances.

by default radio signal is going to be interfered with by water and mineral mass, ie bone and water in the human body, this is not limited to the iphone, any mobile phone using a high frequency spectrum will suffer from this kind of attenuation, any of you try grabbing an element of an indoor TV antenna, even if it's insulated, you will see what happens

Im not personaly an iPhone fanboy but i can see from my use of one, among other phones, and from my experience in the phone repair industry that this problem is very overstated, and seriously misinterpreted, and inevitably seems to be just another target for the media spin machine

Since getting my iphone 4 on Friday I've looked at dozens of forums commenting on the relative merits & demerits of the iphone and its nearest competitors.

I know it's normally people with the stongest opinions who actually post online but I've been staggered by the venom aimed at Apple and its products.

I'm a fairly average punter and what I look for in a smart phone is ease of interface, speed of use number of features and, not to be underestimated, beautiful design. The iphone 4 has all of these things in spades. Every unbiased comparison review I've read - and I've read many - puts the iphone at the top.

Don't forget that the majority of buyers have limited technical knowledge and it's for these people that Apply have an unerring eye

The idea that person A or person B is "too poor" to afford an iPhone is silly but you see it cropping up regularly in discussions everywhere. The silly notion that Apple's device is priced at Rolls-Royce levels of reassuring expensiveness (if one has to ask - er, £25 monthly) merely confirming everyone's suspicion that it genuinely is just a toy for show-offs to slap on the pub table.

And unless I'm shopping in the wrong places, the actual device cost is still cheaper than most laptops, 3DTVs, Dyson vacuum cleaners, and all the other gimmicky crap people feel they need to brighten their miserable lives these days. Plus I've said before that round here the sullen unwashed who gather in bus shelters and push each other about outside corner shops all have iPhones, so each time I hear someone try and make the point that it's only attainable by smart/rich/handsome people I begin to wonder what planet they're on. Must say it sounds nice there - being blissfully unaware of reality.

Working night and day inventing minus points for iPhones, not strange his salary is too low to actually buy one...

The brisk sales of Iphone 3Gs should crush any hopes of the ever-vindictive Steve Jobs, re: progressing his case against Gizmodo and Jason Chen for the “immense damages” to Apple’s profits on the Iphone 3G by their revelation of the Iphoney4 prototype.

If anything, Gizmodo helped Apple hawk millions more Iphoney4's before people had a chance to realize the broken trash for which they had sacrificed their old phones. Perhaps Gizmodo should now counter-sue Apple for the million dollars of free advertising (along with all the other Iphoney4 lawsuits now brewing).

As well, perhaps Apple has only itself to blame for the cock-up of field-testing these junk Iphoney4's only with bumper cases on them to make them appear like the previous version.

Seems like a win-win situation to me. More devices are out there in the wild, converting the hoi polloi to raging apple fanbois one used phone at a time.

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Hi Nick!

LOL - you guys must not come here often. Nick Ferrel's shtick is to trash Apple whenever and wherever he can, even lying when he feels he can get away with it. He does this either for the hits, or because he enjoys the commenter reactions -- or who knows, maybe he actually does have a pathological hatred of Apple. But before you bother getting outraged at anything Nick Ferrel writes, just realize that this is forever and always his Act.

Yea, pretty much ignore the contradiction that even a used iPhone is worth a huge amount of money as millions switch to the new one ... And sure, out of 4 million sold a few have problems but strange, they only seem to be YouTube users trolling for google adsense ad links ... Otherwise, all good - no one outside of bloggers such as yourself have run into any problems - how much is a used non iPhone worth?

The yellow stains are REAL, whether they are glue or boogers or yak piss or whatever. They are the hallmarks of a rushed assembly at Apple's cheap-ass Chinese sweatshop, and the idea that such glaring manufacturing flaws are acceptable (or that you should simply wait around for the yellow stuff to dry) is frankly bizarre, particularly as the high price you gadget lickers are paying is three or four times the iPhone's actual BOM cost.

To me it just confirms that you're all in some sort of idiotic, marketing lead trance. Had Apple shipped the iPhone 4 with anthrax spores, you'd no doubt be in here trying to explain before your highly infectious and imminent death that the spores were a mere "glitch" - while simultaneously extolling the virtues of a front-facing camera and Steve Job's roll necks. Like anyone sane actually fucking cares about either.

P.S. A lot of Inq's anti-Apple gags are running ones. You can't arrive here from whatever fruit-snuffling blog you haunt and make snooty comments without knowing at least some of the history. Basically, piss off the lot of you.

Ignoring the content of your blog... You will read less like a thirteen year old if you spell it fanBOY, as found in the Oxford English or Merriam Webster dictionary. By calling people who like their iphones fanboys instead of fanbois, you would elevate your writing to at least that of an older teenager. It's not like you are writing for a real newspaper with style guides and rules, but at least keep your posts to some minor standard.

haha bill - you really think that "gripping tighter" stops waves travelling more than gripping lightly?

get some physics lessons noob.

Nick - you're a legend, keep bashing those idiots.

Man, you really got the iTards out from under Steve Jobs desk on this one. You deserve a pat on the back and a cold sherbet! I've combined your idea and now refer to his uNholiness Steve Jobs newest failure as the iPhlaw 4 - with anti-antenna technology.

Keep up the good work!

And BTW, iTards, enjoy the Kool-Aid!

This article is the one that is flawed, not the iPhone 4 which has so far the best reception and the least likely to drop calls, even in areas where the earlier models seemed to be unable to get a reception. The antenna problem has been overblown and there are easy fixes for it. The 3G phone are in great demand by people who are buying those and jail breaking them for resale or export to other country. Mine has been bought by someone who will be sending it to a relative in Asia.

If there really was a 'flaw' with iPhone 4, you would be seeing FEW iPhone 3Gs!!! But the truth is, everyone is upgrading for the fantastic features on the iPHone 4. Therefore, no one wants the iPhone 3G anymore, they are all going for sale on ebay, etc... Duh!

The Antennae is just the anti-Apple fanboys having a field day FUD campaign. Nothing more. RIdiculously desperate are the Google and Microsoft fans. Sad, really.

Y'all calm down ... geezzz. God forbid someone dare criticize Apple. Seriously lacking sense for Apple hyped reality.

Good job Nick.

Nick Ferrel is the real fanboy here!

The 3G is selling (used) very well because MILLIONS are upgrading to iPhone 4. Simple as that. There is no flaw with the iPhone 4 as much as the rabid anti apple zealots would have you believe.

Just like 'Obama wasn't born in America' type of nonsense, they think if they repeat something long enough, people will believe it.

It's a $600-$700 US replacement value! If you don't put it in a rubberized case, you are a fool. It's not a question of if you will drop it, but when. Besides which, if you want to use it without the case, you just need to hold it correctly? What is so hard to understand about this? Many devices need to be held correctly! For instance, a camera, a hammer, a screwdriver, or ANY cell phone.

This is just a lot of FUD from desperate Android fanboys, or Microsoft fanboys. IF there were any merit to these arguments, they would show lab results, actual test results of cellular performance. But they don't show those because every objective measurement shows that the iPhone 4 indeed has much improved reception, provided it's in a case (smart) or merely held correctly.

the three comments above read themselves as if they have been posted by some viral advertising shack or directly by apple.

its quite funny as how the way to hold your phone is being described as 'deathgrip' implicating you are doing something wrong :

maybe if iJump will finally be released their staff will open the right doors - or mistake them for windows :

Nick veers off course after his words, "The iPhone 4 is broken in several ways".

1) AFAIK, the ip4 is NOT dropping calls. When held by the bottom left, its signal strength meter can indicate a big loss of signal, but the call generally continues unabated since the signal was 1) meaninglessly overstated (thus is now meaninglessly understated), and 2) sufficient to sustain the call even after the attenuation.

2) "can only (sic) be used by right-handed people". References please?

3) "tends to drop calls (...) when you hold it up to your ear". Again, any sources for this other than your fevered imagination?

4) "yellow or brown stains". AFAIK, this fades away as the fresh glue dries.

Not good, Nick. Your main thesis on 3G resale is lost amid your overstated asides.

Ok I would like to first point out the writer's lack of understanding in one of the most overpublicized and underanalyzed molehills in the Iphone 4 design. The phone is not flawed.
The only way to actually get those bars to go down is to grip the phone with a deathgrip. If the bars are going down at small touches then you are somewhere where the service isn't really as great as the bars are reading on your phone anyways.
Furthermore, the author clearly doesn't know what actually goes into putting those little bars on the screen of your phone. The iphone 4 only loses about 15db of signal at most when gripped and that's only when gripped very tightly. The apparent loss in signal in terms of bars is only due to the way the algorithm calculates how many bars to show.

All that aside, did the author ever consider that the reason Iphone 3G sales jumped up in the secondhand phone market is because all the people who had an Iphone 3G no longer need it because they just upgraded to the Iphone 4. Therefore they're all selling them. It has nothing to do with the Iphone 4's "flaw".

This post is so biased that it stinks!
'it is hard to see much in the Iphone 4 that is worth upgrading for.'
Are you blind? Front and rear facing camera, the only other phone to support iOS4, an awesome display... do you want an itemized list?
'do other unexpected things if you place it up to your ear'
Like what? Did it bite your ear?

Do you even own an iPhone 4? Jeez.

Not sure about anyone else, but an iPhone is not all that expensive. However, I guess if you are stuck in a crap job witting for this worthless blog, the you would need to do something like that in order to afford it.