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Ten reasons why an Iphone 4 is a bad idea

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Tue Jun 08 2010, 10:49

ON MONDAY we suffered through the shameless spectacle of another Apple product launch.

Steve Jobs, the Liberace of the tech world, showed off the latest Iphone 4 smartphone with the idea that it will replace his stonklingly successful 3G gizmo. However here are ten reasons why buying an Iphone 4 is not a good idea.

1. Most of the problems associated with living in Apple's walled garden are still not fixed. You are still too dependant on having Steve Jobs decide what you can download and when. Since Jobs thinks that Adobe Flash is bad and won't allow it on Apple devices, you can't see half of what's out on the web.

2. The name implies that it is a 4th generation mobile phone when it is actually still 3G. Apple says that it is the Iphone 4, however some might be dumb enough to believe that it can use the 4th generation wireless broadband standards, although it really can't.

3. The Iphone 4 appears to have trouble with WiFi. Apple is historically quite bad at engineering WiFi products that work. Many of its flaws have been related to Airport. When Jobs attempted to show off the Iphone 4 yesterday the WiFi did not not work. Jobs claimed it was because there were too many people using WiFi in the Moscone conference centre, but we have to take his word for that. The Apple Ipad has a similar problem in that you have to be practically sitting on a wireless router for it to get a decent WiFi connection. This is ironic as the Iphone 4 has a stainless-steel band around the outside edge that Apple says is designed to improve WiFi network reception, but it still doesn't seem to work very well.

4. The Iphone 4 is selling on its video-calling program, called FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks for now, which means that the best thing about the Iphone 4 will not work in most locations unless you happen to be near a WiFi hot spot. Also you can only conference with other Iphone 4 users. 

5. The Iphone 4, while thinner, still has that easy to slip out of your hands shape. This means that you have to buy those covers which bulk the thing out again. It also still has a plastic back which can be scratched and break.

6. A 16GB model is priced at $199, and a 32GB version will sell for $299. The markups on the devices are outrageous. The monthly charges on contracts are higher than with other smartphones because not only are the network operators subsidising Apple's ridiculously high prices for the devices, but Apple also demands a cut, said to be up to 30 per cent, of users' monthly charges, further driving up the cost.

7. Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years.

8. Something more Androidish in a smartphone does more for the same price, without the Apple lock in.

9. The Iphone 4 is built by Chinese wage-slaves working 12-hour shifts in conditions that have led to a rash of suicides, and Apple has called police to suppress freedom of the press. While the Iphone 4 is not 'less moral' than the Iphone 3G, users now have less excuse to turn a blind eye to how the product is made.

10. It uses Bing instead of Google for Internet search. µ

 

 

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holy fucking shit

Holy fucking shit niggs! Yall got problems fucking sychos!

posted by : shay reamann, 31 January 2012 Complain about this comment
Bad article

Hey Nick, get your facts right. All you mentioned in your article does not ad up. I own an iphone 4 and I love it. It is great in everyway except for the sound quality of the musicplayer and headlhones. They can't match up to my regular mp3 player that didn't cost me no more then 40 bucks. Please readers just buy the iphone, its the best smartphone I ever owned. Kind regards Mark from the Netherlands

posted by : Mark, 06 January 2012 Complain about this comment
This article is closed for comments

The iPhone 4 is perfect for illiterate immigrants to the West. For them, the iPhone 4 is a symbol of class and intelligence, both of which they are completely devoid. It is also popular amongst those bordering on homosexuality. There is also a sizeable number of complete airhead cunts who love the iPhone 4. The latter can be found in Apple stores worldwide.

posted by : Jason, 26 November 2011 Complain about this comment
Bad idea

Now, the iPhone 4 is a bad idea because the iPhone 4S has come out. But when this article was published, The Inquiry was a bad idea.

posted by : Fossda , 16 October 2011 Complain about this comment
iPhone 4 rocks

This blog is purely based on jealousy. Never had a problem with apple as they do all the hard work for you. Anyone who try's to rip apple is clearly a very sad and hates big companies being successful.

posted by : iPhone 4 rocks, 14 October 2011 Complain about this comment
iphone in general is for people that dont make a full use of a smart phone

I use htc sensation and I am very happy with it. I can do anything a smart phone can do!
About iphone4 I just spent 4 hrs trying to get all the necessary software so I can synchronize all the data to my pc and in the end job not done!!!!!!!! I don't know what Apple is trying to prove but I am sure that anyone that knows a thing or two about smart phones will definitely avoid apple smart phones.

posted by : ben, 03 October 2011 Complain about this comment
iPhone 4 Backlight fix

I found a fix to a water damaged iphone 4 on youtube, 'I searched for 'iphone 4 backlight retina display fix' hope this helps other with the same problem.

posted by : Fonefixer, 28 September 2011 Complain about this comment
I phone

I usually don't comment on things but I have a iPhone and I love it , I paid 249.00 for mine and it was well worth it... This phone is amazing it really is...

posted by : Ruthy, 13 September 2011 Complain about this comment
And, one year later...

Ran across this article a year ago. Bought an iPhone 4 anyway. This phone sucks. Guess it was obsolete after a year.

By the way, there are a lot of factual errors in the article (bad WiFi reception, Bing as default search, etc.) and that's confusing. There are plenty of reasons to hate the iPhone, so why not be accurate when choosing them? Why not point out that iTunes is awful, yet necessary to this phone (and that application doesn't play well with Linux)? Why not talk about how IOS has been in essentially a holding pattern for the past couple of years while Android has evolved incredibly during that time? How about the awful voice control or downright hostility toward third-party developers?

Oh, well. The end result is the same -- iPhone hate is a very, very good thing.

What a waste of money this disaster of a phone is. $10 said the iPhone 5 is just as bad, if not worse.

posted by : slinky, 07 September 2011 Complain about this comment
Umm what??

This is the most biased pos article I've ever read. First, you can tell it was written by someone who despises apple because all the info was incorrect. Mac has some of the wifi products in the world. It's a 4th gen bc it's a completely new phone. And also, they bitch about mark up but they THEY ARE THE SAME PRICE YOU idiot. God the people at this place are retarded and need to check their facts.

posted by : Brian, 03 August 2011 Complain about this comment
iphone 4g

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posted by : iphone 4g, 28 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Listen iPhone haters

iPhone 4 is like a luxury phone. The beautiful, shining exterior was made with same material of that of chopper wing. The 5 megapixel camera in it is better than 8 megapixel in android phones, it has the biggest pixels in a smartphone so far. It can handle many email account such as google, yahoo, hotmail, aol all coming directly to your iPhone, where else your cheap, and cartoonish android can only bring google mail directly to your phone. And the greatest thing; it can speak many languages such as Arabic where your cheap, stupid, and delay-touch-screen android shows empty boxes when it speaks Arabic. Face it, IPhone is the best and it will remain that way unless apple design another one.

posted by : IphoneLover, 28 June 2011 Complain about this comment
Well said...

Steve Jobs is a conman. Pure and simple. Don't get me wrong, apple and his ideas are very good but they have a sinister side. I could easily get a pay a child to cover a petrified turd in shiny metal and sell it at ten times the price if I had a marketing machine that brainwashes the public. Steve Jobs is doing just that. He has mastered the art of supply and demand. I do prefer Bill Gates. He is honest and caring and more of a buisiness man than what Jobs is. Apple products are fantastic in therory, but Jobs promises too much, too fast before he can deliver.

Nick

posted by : Nick Ricketts, 26 June 2011 Complain about this comment
help with iphone 4

hiya everyone just to let you know im not an expert on iphone 4 have done some research though. received iphone4 this morning from vodafone (uk) was excited synced it with itunes brilliant applied to activate sim they said could take up to 24hours thats fine dont mind waiting but will it actually have signal and service in 24hours? so far i have rebooted it reset networks etc and nothing i am going to wait and see until tomorrow as its not been 24hours yet but has anyone else had this problem as i really dont want to give up on the phone as do like it other than i cant call or text anyone wifi working as picks up the same wireless network that my laptop does so thats all good also if u have ipod and already have itunes can u send them to your iphone without being charged as partner already has an itunes library on his laptop for his ipod???

posted by : rebecca, 21 June 2011 Complain about this comment
iphone

Just hate its classic design and tick frames...

posted by : farid, 24 May 2011 Complain about this comment
4g so much better

I happen to live in a city where we get 4g coverage basically everywhere n I can tell you from exp with the iphone it doesn't compare to phones with 4g besides the display

posted by : epic 4g, 31 March 2011 Complain about this comment
@indianninja

How would you even know if you haven't used the iphone 4?

reply to each point;
1. You pay for quality. Yes the up front price is alot to ask for, but if you get a decent phone plan, that should take care of that.
2. I'm sorry to break this to you but there are a thousand ways to get around this unless your extremely lazy.
3. So many apps do this. It's ridiculous to think there isn't a way
4. This may be true, NOT. Accessories allow you to do this without advertising that you can.
5. It's the biggest market of apps that are virus free. Thats right, smartphones can get viruses (Google it)

I have proved you wrong in all of the categories you brought up. plus you haven't even owned it so how do you know it's bad?

posted by : jaif14, 18 March 2011 Complain about this comment
!!!

I don't like to defend apple on blogs but people like you make me sick.

You spread untrue facts and take advantage of the people who have no clue what even a megabyte is, let alone every other things to worry about when buying a smartphone.

I have to agree with everything JeeBee says about this article

posted by : jaif14, 18 March 2011 Complain about this comment
IPhone Fan Boys Cry To Much

if Iphone 4 was so great i could hold the phone any way i want and not have a dropped call.....case and point!

posted by : harryplopper420, 05 March 2011 Complain about this comment
Iphone is not worth it

Apple fanboys, I challenge you about few facts. Break them if you can.
1. Iphone is overpriced. "It is mp3 player, can browse net , can call(phone)." So what? Much cheaper phones can do that.
2. Flash, no matter what said , can you say that it is not at all used? No you can not.There may be alternatives, but why on earth a device at that price do not support it when chaeper phones can?
3. Bluetooth can not connect to other phones for file transfer.
4. iphone do not have removable memory like microsd. I often download documents over net and take print outs at cyber cafe with card reader and my phone's microsd. Apple fans! Can you "jailbreak" this feature in the Iphone? I guess not.
5. Apps..... what does they do to enable iphone to do something useful what other phones can not do? Moreover, apps cost money most of the time. There may be some free, but many phones have free applications. What is new?
This part I do not know , as I never used an Iphone.

So conclusion: lets call iphone as phone X. I heard that this phone has call drop issue, battery issue,cant send group sms(seriously, this is a major failure for Indian user if it is true.One of my friends has to send sms to 100 batchmates in a group as class notices etc daily)but can not stand it as myself did not see it.
This phone has a high cost,Camera not impressive for the cost,bluetooth can not transfer files,can not transfer mp3's from my collection to it as I heard,applications are mostly paid as I heard,Multitasking is not fully featured as I heard,Does not have buttons(useful for not seeing the screen and typing as you take a note), does not have removable battery,does not support flash,and I heard it is not very customisable.

I can play a music in the background on N73ME hacked While on call. can iphone do that?

Howto: (As some may challenge)Use x plore(free to use as trial for anytime) and set file associations mp3 to phone's default music player now play mp3 and pause it, then press menu to go to standby, and call, press menu, and turn on music. It plays at low vol at calling and is not a loud noise.

posted by : indianninja, 21 February 2011 Complain about this comment
Flash is not a good reason

well all the other iphones don't have flash.Apple keep making iphones so there probably will be 5 and 6 and even if flash comes out on iphone 5 later or 6 in 1 or 2 years we will get the OS and download flash as easy as that.

posted by : Bishoy Fekry, 25 December 2010 Complain about this comment
iPhone4 is crap

I just canceled phone contract and sent iPhone4 back. iPhone4 is useless as a communication device. Reception in iPhone4 drops off at all times. Battery does not last for 2 days and it is not replaceable! The sound muffled as trough a pillow and in the bathroom. Due to creepy design it is difficult to sms back or to do anything quick. It false calls back immediately if not locked. As for media … forget it.. A 2mpx camera will do better. The ‘scratch protected glass’ scratches if you put phone on a dusty surface. Do not drop it from height more then 10cm or glass will crack all over. And these gay translucent icons… yak. It is designed to attract a stupid buyer, not use it. It is a device for idiots or crack addicts.

posted by : DimitriAu, 12 December 2010 Complain about this comment
@Yousif

Just because you are dumb, don't blame it on the iPhone.

It can pretty much do all of the above if you know how to use it.

Impossible to jailbreak???
Lets be honest, that comment was just plain stupid!!

Impossible to download Youtube videos???
Wrong again, I thought MXTube could do that, but hey, what do I know, I'm just a dumb apple user.

posted by : Tom, 10 November 2010 Complain about this comment
iPhone user

Its true that nick got his facts wrong but as an iPhone user I must say it's the shittest phone I've ever used
1. I cannot grab images from safari (the worst browser ever) it just doesn't have an option for it.
2. U cannot download anything from safari, this is limited by apple. Seriously I'm really pissed because even my 6 years old nokia can do that.
3. 80% off the apps from apple stores you have to pay for them + if u want music on ur phone u have to buy from iTunes.
4. The iPhone4 restricts Bluetooth u can't connect it to other phones. They shouldnt call it bluetooth if u only use it to connect to headset and pc
5. The settings are ridiculously limited I can't turn autorotate off. It doesn't have 1 tenth of what u can do on android.
6.Even tho it came out few months after the htc desire, it hasn't got 1/10th of what the desire can do.
7. It uses micro sim card so u cant use ur sim with a different phone or use it with another simcard
8. It's reception is so shit compared to other phones
10. The new update iOS 4.1 makes it impossible to jailbreak it.
11. U can't install widgets unlike android.
12. I have to charge the battery once or sometimes twice a day.
13. U can't put sd card in it for extra space
14. It's impossible to download YouTube videos
15. The apps for this phone are so useless and expensive compared to android ones.

I regret buying this phone it's the worst mistake
I've done. My friend has a htc desire and he got it before me with a cheaper price

By the way when I said I bought this iphone4 I mean I got it on a 2 year contract so I can't return it

posted by : Yousif, 29 September 2010 Complain about this comment
you an get iphones for free

honestly, you may have heard of freebie jeebies but you can actuaaly get a free iphone, if you want to know more check my webpage out : helpwithsiteslikefreebiejeebies.yolasite.com
if the link isnt working copy and paste it into the top search bar.
it cant hurt to look guys and i can save youy money

posted by : matt, 03 September 2010 Complain about this comment
EDIT

"I've owned a 1g and currently have a 2g that works great and will probably get a 4g when they figure this antenna issue out."

Edit: When I say 1g,2g and 4g I mean generation.

So maybe I should have said: I've had a 1st gen and currently own a 2nd gen (3g).

posted by : Alex, 01 September 2010 Complain about this comment
Come on fan boys (and gals)

Lets get real, the device has a design flaw.. come on the antenna! The thing is a cell phone and it loses reception if you touch it where your "not" suppose to.

It's impossible for me to comprehend that people actually accept this and even defend it.. get a "special" case and the problem is solved... LOL.

Lets think about this... would you buy a car who's brakes wont work because you press the brake pedal on the spot? Bad analogy.. maybe but you get the idea.

I'm in no way shape or form saying this article is completely accurate but there are somethings this phone leaves to be desired.

I've owned a 1g and currently have a 2g that works great and will probably get a 4g when they figure this antenna issue out.

posted by : Alex, 01 September 2010 Complain about this comment
Journalism?

Nick,
I have the iPhone 4 and just like my iPod touch and my MacBook pro it does exactly what I ask of it when I asknut to do that.
Good luck with your pc in the morning, when I've already checked my mail and written 200 words and your still waiting for your computer to log in.

Yes apple had a few problems with the iPhone 4, but considering they have been producing phones a mere few years compared to brands like nokia, they are nothing short of genius.

And mag I suggest as a respectable journalist, you should research your facts. And research them again. Apple have a huge following out there and contest your every word.

posted by : Hannah, 28 August 2010 Complain about this comment
Different vowel.....

Wow, switch out the vowels at the beginning of the site name, and this article fits right in with the "Britney Spears gains 330lbs, mates with an alien" stories. Hard to sound credible when the argument comes across like an ten-year-old wrote the copy. You might try some overly foul language and rectum jokes to push it up to an 11.

Next time please give fact-backed research, (links), for your argument and not blogosphere tripe.

posted by : iacolb, 30 July 2010 Complain about this comment
wow

worse ten reasons ever. i have an i phone 3g and it works great. i haven't had any problems with it. the whole 4g shit is ridiculous. i phone 4, after i phone 3g, after i phone 2g, after i phone. see the pattern? give up on the journalism

posted by : shh, 29 July 2010 Complain about this comment
Get the facts

Your wrong on every single one.

1.) only 10% of phones support flash. stop acting like every phone except iPhone can.

2.) Do you think that everyone is retarded. You're probably the only one to think that 4 means 4g. besides only one phone in teh universe can.

3.) It happened one time. Cell Phones aren't built to be amazing computers. yes they are web cabale but mostly phone.

4.) It has been said that by the end of the year there will be video-calling on 3g. and besides who cares if you can only do it to another iPhone 4. Most phone cant so video-calling, and its awesome iPhone can.

5.) It definetly isnt made of plastic. Its made from the same stuff as military helicopter windshields dipshit. and the sides are 3x stronger than steel.

6.) If the price is so outrageous then why did 1.7 million people buy it the first 3 days. and AT&T has some of the cheapest rates.

7.) All phones go out of style and besides every year in June Apple improves the Iphone, and refreshes the iPhone world.

8.) It doesnt do the same at all you idiot. No adroid phone has video-calling, they only have 75,000 apps iPhone has over 200,000, and there is no iPod on Android phones.

9.) They aren'y even built in China.

10.) Google is the default still but you have options to use Bing or Yahoo. and that's not even a reason you just couldnt think of something else that isnt true.

posted by : Ben, 16 July 2010 Complain about this comment
Really don't know what you're talking about

I have been a smart phone user from day one and think current apple products are head and shoulders above the competition. Many of the reasons in your list are, as stated above, inaccurate. Was this intended to be an opinion piece?

posted by : Smart phone user, 14 July 2010 Complain about this comment
Sinister, Dexter.....

11. If you are a lefty, then you don't get any signal and can't make any calls because holding the iphone in the palm of your left hand shorts the bluetooth/wifi antenna against the 3G antenna....Nice.

posted by : JW, 02 July 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple and their adds

Few things you missed out...
Despite being an Android user (don't worry, I have mac and duel boot it with kubuntu) I have bought Iphone 4 to my mother....It turned out to be the worst decision I've ever made.

I compared the phone with my Galaxy S, and the battery life is dispicable. Also, the phone SHATTERED when she accidentally dropped on the marble desk, not even a full foot away= the phone is just way too fragile to be 'practical'.

Sure, you can buy half inch thick protection and even argue that phones are not bloody cricket balls, but come on, if the phone is that fragile, it's almost like saying 'no clumsy people alloweded'. Also, buying thick protective layer also defeats the purpose, look at htc, I played around with Hero with no cover, no scratch, very well engineered.

The reception issue annoyed me, but was not that big of issue than the phone's fragile construction. However, missing phone calls were very annoying.

Flash, I really want flash, look, you can have apps for nearly everything, but nowdays more and more websites are flash dependent, and by installing Flash player, you don't have to go through the painful process of accessing a website by finding (about for a half an hour) an app that does it...and you end up with kazillions of apps.

Jailbreaking? I did it, it was very easy, (on my old 3GS, yes I changed from Iphone to Android) and it was very handy in aspect of free apps and 'unofficial' apps...but that's about it, it doesn't offer a half of what Android offers, hell you can even flash the Galaxy's wlan driver and put on aircrack, you have super wireless wardrive kit on your pocket...not that I'm proud of it...

Look, drop the fanboy talk, Android really sucked back in 1.5, but they really are better...even better than Iphone....and Iphone 4 was biggest mistake Apple ever made, I know Iphones were never 'great' with their disgusting lying deceiving biased marketing plans....Now people are starting to see through the Apple marketing tactics and see the imperfection of the phone, and compunded with Steve Jobs' stupidity (by no means he is stupid, but one person can only do so much, trust me, you need Flash if you want the true web browsing experience....I guess apple desensitized their consumers by forcing them to use their huge app store instead...)

If you want to find comfort in Apple's ads and the majority who uses Iphone, then buy the damn phone...
But don't dilude yourself and if you really want a good phone that does everything that Iphone does and more, buy an Android phone.

posted by : John K, 01 July 2010 Complain about this comment
false

about 5 of these 10 things r false...the data plans arent more expensive, the back is glass not plastic

posted by : shane, 28 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Bad Article

All of these reasons are very very weak and most are not even fully true. Let me go through and respond to each one...

1. Jailbreaking easily bypasses the dumb Apple lock-down, you should look into it. Many powerful apps are availible only after jailbreaking.

2. How does this make the Iphone itself bad? If people are upset that the Iphone isn't 4G, then don't buy it, however this is probably a rare scenario. Only one 4G phone exists right now as far as I know.

3. Wifi does have problems, this is true. But for me this will not prevent me from purchasing the Iphone, for 3G speeds are quite fast regardless.

4. I agree, Facetime will be a little-used feature as long as it's Wifi only.

5. Complaining about the size is laughable. There are some thin rubber covers that only add like 1 - 2mm to the width. Regardless, what smartphone have you seen doesn't require a over for clumsy or paranoid people?

6. The Iphone 4 ATT contracts are the same if not less than other carriers. With the $15 data option, consumers can easily shave o part of the price. And it uses the same plan as the Iphone 3G.

7. Iphone 4 is among the most advanced phone. Are you saying it is more suseptible to going out of date than most ohter phones. What point are you trying to make. All technology goes absulete rather quickly.

8. Jailbreak

9. No one cares, and this is a generalization based off of that one Foxconn news article. The keyboardI I'm typing with was likely produced in the same kind of environment, along with other phones.

10. Switching to the Google option is rather easy...

posted by : Joseph Richter, 28 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Retarded

Every one of these reasons are retarded, learn how to get better facts

posted by : Nick, 27 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Own goal!!!

Dude you are so not serious. This is the fuel that keeps fan boys alive and kicking. It plays on the law of opposites, by being so outlandish the article creates an equally proportional reaction from both Apple fans and non-Apple fans as clearly demonstrated here. The subsequent defence only entrenches they allegiance to the brand an allegiance that creates an automatic defence each time the iPhone [In this case] is criticized. The more the hate the greater the love. And we all know how this works; have you ever defended something so bad that even when told the truth you still stuck to your guns? Its basic human psychology. Off course am not saying this article is correct the truth is it’s a badly written opinion/review/or whatever you want to call it.

If I have said it once I will say it again the obsession of anything Apple will never be ended by this kind of bashing because it is this kind of bashing that has created a cult like culture around Apple. Look at any religious cult it works by creating the fear of persecution in its followers. But this is not to say I think Apple is a bad company, my personal view is there are good at what they do; they seem to pay attention to some detail that most companies don’t. If it’s true that the glass is blab bla and the retina display is whatever and etc etc etc then the fact of the matter is its impressive. You will have to be some serious hater not to be impressed by the product quality they put out. After skiving on the first three I’m even thinking of joining the queue. Off course I will wait for the antenna bugs to be sorted out.

But if truth be told this opinion/review is just plain simple good old Apple bashing and from the flurry of responses it has elicited it has achieved the exact opposite.

Well done for scoring an own goal.

posted by : Disappointed, 26 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Try to make 10

Some of 10 is not true. He just wants to have 10.

posted by : Max, 26 June 2010 Complain about this comment
I want to hire the Apple Marketing team

the iPhone 4 is a beautiful and innovative version of a smartphone that has captured the world, but...

a lot of the people who commented and said that Nick was a retard and cobbled uncoherent arguments together justified their comments by quoting the marketing videos of Apple.

Are they naive enough to think that the marketing videos, almost advertissements are not going to show the product in a bad light?

Doh!

Anyway, some problems are cropping up already with the reception, so all the irate commenters should curb their anger, and just look at some facts first.

And a big LOL to the guys above who posted that Apple ecosystem was not a closed Garden. Actually, no, not a LOL, but a big sad cry for people who don't even realise their are in a gilded cage!

The R&D Innovations team at Apple still deserves ultimate praise for their attention to detail, and all these new concepts they have developed. I am just against the business model of Apple (And these horrible apple shops with drool splattered on the shop windows)

posted by : olivierz, 25 June 2010 Complain about this comment
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You sure bring out the curve Nick. Love your work, f*ck the jesusphone.

posted by : b, 25 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Here ya go fanboys

suck it

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/

posted by : Gadgetsrus, 25 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Get Your Facts Right...

Im guessing this guy is a biased, anti-apple, Microsoft fanboy..

Don't take this article seriously, my iPhone 4 is amazing, and i find none of the above problems, in fact i have no problems with it at all, its an amazing phone, the best :D infact, most/all of the stuff you said isnt even true.

posted by : Fletch, 24 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Dumb As He Looks!

This article is so biased it's ridiculous. You'd think by the way this man slighted Apple in this article, that they'd killed his family or something. No of these points are at all valid; to say that you can get more out of an Android phone is ridiculous. Everyone is trying to catch up with Apple and that's completely obvious. If this man didnt already look as dumb as he sounded I'd be inclined to make him look that way!

posted by : Not, 24 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Artile writer has no sense

the guy who did this article must be very stupid got most of his facts wrong

posted by : ROLO, 15 June 2010 Complain about this comment
not the iphone i was waiting for

i have an iphone 3gs and i have just apple products but this time iphone 4 other phones are better like the evo 4g video chat over 3g iphone over wifi evo has a hotspot iphone tethering and is wired tethering is a fail

posted by : Mj, 11 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple ~

Right now I have the Iphone 3GS and I was plaining on geting the new one for my birthday , Untill i heard about there new contracts ...... basicly every time you vist a website they charge you little fees and every time you download an app you have to pay a small fee for that to . I'm trying not to dis apple products but i think the Iphone 4 is a scam. I guesses when my contract goes out next year I will go Verison .....

Moon ~

posted by : Moon, 10 June 2010 Complain about this comment
This was an incredibly biased and poorly researched article

Is Nick the new Charlie Demerjian? The new Fuad Abazovic? I think so.

posted by : slackshoe, 10 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Thanks Nick

I was going to get an iphone 4G but I won't now - thanks for stopping me making a big mistake!

It's not any of the ten reasons that put me off, but reading these comments I've been put off Apple for life - Jobs' Mob seem to be a bunch of humourless, arrogant losers and I don't want to be associated with them.

Keep up the good work!

posted by : Billy, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
The Downside of the Internet

This is a great example of the downside of the internet. Any ill-informed nimrod can put an article together & pass if off as fact.

1. Flash is 1/2 of all web content? What a load of crap.

2. Indeed it's a 4th generation phone. Thus the name. Duh.

3. I have Macs, iPad & iPhone. No problems connecting any to WIFI.

4. Let me see... Despite your criticism of FaceTime, similar functionality exists natively on exactly ZERO other smartphones.

5. Substitute the name of any phone here that you have a grudge against.

6. Substitute the name of any smartphone model from any manufacturer & tell us which one won't be supplanted by a new model within 12 months. Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

7. Price issues? You're kidding. What equivalent phone sells for less than $150 with a two year plan?

8. "more Androidish" "does more"? Talk is cheap. Where are the facts?

9. Name one smartphone that you know of that's not built within 50 miles of the iPhone and or not built by one of the big CM's like Foxconn, Celistica, Flex, Arima, etc. Same wages. Same working conditions. We're waiting.....

10. Did you just sleep through the keynote or did you not get an invitation, because you lacked credentials as a real reporter? Available search engines include Google, Yahoo & Bing.

11. I've added this one. Find a new job. You suck at this one.

posted by : Mark, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Out come the fanbois...

It tickles me that people step out about this and call it the worst review ever.

Could it be that it's not a review and just comment?

Score one for the idiots preaching about the "Inaccuracy" of said article and them calling it a review.

All well and good to criticise Mr. Nvidia himself, but with that sort of stance? Shut up and get off the internet you dolts.

Back to the void with you and your googlenews! Tards.

posted by : Mr. Richards, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
One thing

The one thing that can't be debunked by coolaid drinkers is the fact that your precious iPhone 4 cannot have an unlimited data plan because as of Monday June 7th, the only unlimited dataplan left is for the Blackberry on AT&T's network (I confirmed this by calling AT&T). So get use to checking your data usage and either backing off or making AT&T and Apple rich with your overage fees. I'll be happily consuming unlimited Data on my Blackberry and at upgrade time next year, I'll be getting a new Blackberry and STILL maintaining my Blackberry Personal unlimited data plan.

posted by : Frank Black, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
And it will sell

BUCKETLOADS!

The truth is people are sheep who follow the hype and it will sell loads regardless. People just want the latest and greatest even if it's complete crap.

posted by : Blimp, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Note to fanboys

Before all deciding to flood the article with your comments and "responses" to something which is "off-message", you might want to tone down your juvenile remarks and terminology like "this is poor journalism" (it's a comment piece and you wouldn't recognise journalism anyway), "Apple hater" (it helps if you then don't have to mention the product name in full several times like a Hail Mary), and "link-bait" (well, you're only making it worse for yourselves).

In fact, given the number of frequently near-incoherent responses with disclaimers about how someone doesn't own any Apple products yet feels obliged to defend the company, alongside the now-obligatory Apple-sanctioned "talking points" (Steve can manage the message but somehow not that pesky Wi-Fi), I wonder if there's a Foxconn PR division whose workers are tasked to counter "bad things" said about Apple products, even if it only serves to drive up The Inquirer's advert views.

D'oh again, fanboys!

posted by : Horse, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
It's bait, that's obvious...

... bait for a nasty letter from Apple's legal department, that is.

Honestly, you guys are cutting it close -- I mean, I understand your need to generate clicks, but publishing a 'Ten reasons' article where every entry is so far from reality as to be properly categorised as lies? In a legal environment as freakishly sensitive to libel as Britain? And didn't Gizmodo learn the hard way that Jobs' patience is not actually infinite?

I'd wish you good luck, if only my tolerance for teenage bullshitters hadn't run out too.

posted by : Skeptical Steve, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
More stupidity from apple

"FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks" What? The only reason I might have gotten one was for this feature so now you're telling me I can't use this feature unless I'm on wifi AND I can't see half the interenet because of lack of flash? What a joke. All this is is a cult buying in to this Jobbs world.

posted by : Joe, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Clutching at straws

This article really permeates with your total disregard for rational thought. Your points border on unreasonable. I agree with the sentiment of the others; this article just completely sucks.

posted by : Johnny Walker, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
4G

I've had at least 5 people ask me if my Evo was the new iPhone... and then i say no, it's the Evo 4G...

Then, all of them then said something about the new iPhone 4G (sic) immediately following

Also, I've heard at least 5-10 other people mention Apple's new 4G (sic) phone that's coming out.

So, yes, there are a lot of idiots out there that think it's 4G. I told one guy I didn't think it was 4G just the 4th iPhone and he "corrected" me and said "oh no, it's 4G"

So, yes, people are that dumb, maybe not the average reader here, but the average joes on the street ARE that dumb

posted by : RobinPanties, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Dude.........whoever you are......YOU SUCK BIGTYM!!!!!

half your points don't have anything to do with the actual device, and the other half...dude,thts what apple have implemented in the fone....its a revolution in the smart fone industry, instead of criticizing the design and its engineering...you should be grateful to apple for coming bout with such an innovation...if you are so great in pointing out there mistakes....why don't you and your clan of people who don't lyk the iphone 4 sit down and make one that is better.....
You are seriously ridiculous!!!!!!!

posted by : Trevor, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Point 9 is hardest to swallow.

This is akin to labour concentration camps. Yes, people are not really forced (at gun point to do this), but economically force due to prevailing conditions in China, no doubt. You can ask why 400K people would want to work under such conditions. There is no time to get a life at all.

On their off day, they would be so tired, they sleep all day!. So where is the free time left ?. Paying more money is not going to solve this!.
A minimum of 4 days of 12hour shifts then 2 full days off. Or three days off since they work already 48 hours in the week considering shift hours as well, not your normal, 7 am to 7 pm work hours.

posted by : FrankieTeo, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Expensive toys for rich boys

Apple has always made expensive toys for rich boys. That's why their market share in PCs is still a drop in the ocean. But they have mastered the art of manipulating and predicting the minds of their loyal fanboi base, so they will continue to be successful IN THAT MARKET. All the fanboi bleating comments above are testimony to that. If anyone is old enough to remember the Apple Macintosh ad that premiered at Super Bowl 1984 (the one based on George Orwell's book '1984'), it is ironic to see that Apple has turned their fan/customer base into the very mindless zombies that they were parodying. The fanbois have been brainwashed into thinking that by shouting loud enough and often enough, they can silence all criticism of Apple products and the Apple god. To the extent that they are in reality-denial mode when they say that Flash doesn't matter! Does anyone really know the market share of Flash - how many of the world's PCs have Flash installed? Take a reality check, idiots, and smell the coffee. Blind loyalty to ANYTHING is stupid.

posted by : jaykayess, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Excellent

Best article ever Nick, keep up the good work.

posted by : Ross, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Clearly written by someone who hates Apple

I got as far as the first "bad" reason and I had to stop reading. Claiming "half" the web is flash is just utter ignorance.

How about 90% of flash contents are advertising? Good riddance my iPhone don't download those.

In any case, I know the rest of the article was simply hater talk so I didn't even bother to read it and immediately skip to the comments and I'd have to say, if I'm Nick, I would certainly "an hero" right about now... no point in living when you're that dumb.

posted by : Ryo, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
I can see the iphone 4/4g comment

you have to realize that half of the population is below average intelligence. If that joke went over you head you are probably in the lower half. The readers may not be dumb, but, if lady is at the top of the charts, I have no problem believing that people could fall for it. I also have a hard time believing that with 4G just around the corner apple would pull a stunt like this. The timing may be coincidence, but the name isn't. Apple knows people are dumb, how do you think they sell so many ipods?

posted by : brickling, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Good Point

i know Apple fan boys not comfortable reading your article, its not about how u present it, but the point within it. simple conclusion, u got the point Nick. congratulations.

posted by : epool86, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Top Form

Great article Nick. You're back in top form. Better than Jonathan Swift.

posted by : Nicky, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Bring on some light

Thank you Nick for your fantastic article.
I am currently deliberating upon buying one of those marvels and your opinion certainly will be considered. I am not pro but not against either. Not yet.
To those who criticised your words so much: we are all entitled to form opinions! Nick is obviously a careful observer who sees a bit more than just a fashion accessory and if you have a bit of a brain yourself put your thoughts against his and make up your own mind!
THANK YOU NICK . IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A BIT OF A BALANCE!!!!

posted by : ania, 09 June 2010 Complain about this comment
So how is it worth the extra £249

The review is rubbish and you can scream and shout about how it is wrong, but I'd like to see someone explain how it is worth £249?
Would it be the front facing camera? UK video calling is non-existant.
How about the main camera resolution? Nope nothing special there.
Is it that you can now run more than 1 app at a time. Again standard for a lot of other phones.
Is it that it is smaller? Ok it is smaller but it isn't like the 3gs is huge.
Is it that it will allow me to browse more of the web than before? Nope still flash support (HTML5 is not a valid alternative yet)

Like I say complain about how bad the review is but please someone tell me about how the iphone is so much better compared to a hero/desire/x10

posted by : Drifter, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple hater

clearly the author of this article is an apple hater and is probably paid by google to tarnish apple iphone's image because they have failed to dislodge apple iphone as the number one selling smartphone touch screen phone

posted by : ted, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
@Michael: "And the kicker is your remark that it will be out of date in a year"

Why do you describe this likelihood as "a kicker", exactly?

The original iPhone appeared in the summer of '07, the 3G in the summer of '08, the 3GS in the summer of '09 and, well, you get the idea. It is perfectly reasonable to suggest that anyone foolish enough to nail themselves to an extended contract for one of these things might be one or even two iterations behind by the time they're clear of paying for it.

Not one of the O2 contracts is less than 18 months and most are two years. The only way the iPhone can be made to look affordable is by offering protracted contracts and charging mad people for the actual phone as a separate item.

The cheapest O2 deal is £25/month over a minimum 24 months + £249 for the 3GS - two years and well over two hundred quid for something that's already a version behind. Shame you can't get common sense on a similar deal.

posted by : Hieronymus P. Organthruster, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Fantastic Article

Yes, the article's content is a complete load of jobbies. However the purpose and effect of the article is, as always, to annoy the crap out of a legion of aPpletards.

WIN!

posted by : Blow Jobbs, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Maby if apple invited you to a release show...

i get the feeling you'd be less bitter. But they dont, why?, because your just one of thoes people driven to find fault in things most people will initialy be impressed by, to make yourself sound cleverer then everyone. Perhaps it would work if you had something credible to say.

posted by : JTE, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
You guys need to get laid.

seriously, it's only a phone.

I found this article entertaining (isn't that what "news" is these days?)

posted by : Liam, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Nick Farrell you are the best jurnalist

Nick Farrell as always, is fair, neutral and balanced. This is the best article since the "Windows 7 review". All the facts have been verified before publishing. So if Nick say the Iphone4 is not good, I will not buy it. Thank you Nick for this magnificent article. Continue the good work and forgive the weaker minds.

posted by : Tenile Gimplant, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Better, harder, and more serious list next time please

I expected a serious list, but basically all this says is that its wifi probably isn't so good, the rest if senseless filler and whinny BS basically.
And I don't own a single apple product I might ad.

posted by : W.-, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Yawn

Well, that's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

posted by : Kevin, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
What is this??

Some people just like to comment on any good thing that comes up. I m not a die-hard iphone fan, but like to follow tech blogs and know very well how jerks like Nick try their best to fool people around.
1. No Flash player? Yes, it IS a dampner (the only one in this list of ten). But ppl buying an iphone are smart enuf to know this. And considering how resource efficient Apple products are, heavy resource consumption by flash players (as many reviewers said) is a good reason not to blame Steve.
2. What is this? he says, 'however some might be dumb enough to believe that it can use the 4th generation wireless broadband standards'...what can a company do if ppl r so dumb????
3. 'The Iphone 4 appears to have trouble with WiFi'..."Appears"??? Now this guy looks like a 'I can predict everything' sort of a guy to me. :)
4. Again "still doesn't seem to work"...Apple added the stylish stainless steel band to have better reception...and this guy is making his own assumptions to make it a reason not to buy an iphone?
5. Yes, I also did not like the idea of having face-time technology only from iphone to iphone. But, you don't like it, don't use it. Just forget about facetime (BTW, u dont have this feature in any other smart phone too)
6. OMG!! They made the iphone thinner and Nick is complaining that it will slip out of your hand!!! Nick, are you having parkinson's disease? What do you have to say about moto razors?
7. 'Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years'...This guy is killing me!!! Most of the smart phone contracts are 2 years, Nick!!!
8. Then why you are not putting a detailed comparison of Android vs IPhone? If Android is better in some features, its IPhone in the other...Ppl can decide what they are looking for!
9. Now he is talking about company ethics?? Boy, this guy should be in some mental...What about the other smart phone making companies? They are angels?
10. And finally, iphone uses google, bing and yahoo all three for search, its you to decide what you want.

posted by : njs, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
1 and 5

1 and 5 are enough for me to swap my iPhone 3G for an Evo 4G instead of an iPhone4. So yeah, I agree with Nick.

posted by : Hoekie, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
To paraphrase Jobs...

"God forbid we become a nation of bloggers." In other words, this very article.

posted by : @henrybreen, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Nick/DICK?

Your obviously not a SMART phone user. How did you get this job? you didnt hear or see anything Steve Jobs said? WHAT A LOSER!!! APPLE BASH ALL YOU WANT, WHAT YOU INVENTED/MADE? RUBBISH. BUY IPHONE 4 NOW EVERYONE!

posted by : Tony, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
tautology

Tautology (rhetoric), using different words to say the same thing twice where the additional words fail to provide additional clarity when repeating a meaning.

posted by : Wintermute, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Formal announcement

Dear Nick,

I have to inform you that you are not welcome to next years fabulous event where we announce the extraordinary iPhone 5 with 2 front facing cameras for stereo video calls. (which is hugely great!)

posted by : Real Steve Jobs, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
POOR JOURNALIST !!!!!

Ok we get it you are a jealous poor journalist that have not been invited to Steve Jobs presentation and you are trying your best to put down the Iphone.....

Well Let me tell you something ......

YOU ARE DOING A VERY POOR JOB !!!!!

I don't know what but its obvious you have something against Apple..... I wonder who funds your website ..... Theinquirer .......

is it Google or microsoft ??

posted by : ous, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
SPONSORED BY MICROSOFT

The Future is HTML 5 not Flash.
Sales will decide how good this version is.
Not a out of touch reviewer Sponsored by MS.

posted by : PAULO, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Need HELP people!

Please,can you all together now switch off your Wifi devices so a can get a signal?!

posted by : Steve Jobs, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Hilarious

Oh, Nick. You are on a roll with more of your laughably off-kilter Apple-bashing. A few corrections to some of the most glaring errors in your er- "article."

It's not a matter of Steve Jobs pushing a button to allow Flash on Apple's mobile platforms. It won't work on any mobile device. It's broken.

The back is not plastic but made of the same durable glass that is on the front.

It's so smooth it will slip out of your hands so you'll need a case? Are you grasping at straws or what? I suppose an Android encrusted with buttons is more ergonomic.

And the kicker is your remark that it will be out of date in a year. It's like Woody Allen joke "The food here is terrible, and the portions are too small."

Admit it. You are writing these ridiculous diatribes on your iPad just to make Apple-haters look idiotic.

posted by : Michael, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Meh

The IPhollow 4 is pretty lack-luster if you ask me...

Oh well, to each their own... I'll be chillin with my HTC Evo :)

posted by : Dan, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
What an idiot!!!

I am not a fan of the iPhone, but this guy is an Asshole, this is manipulation of the information and rubbish periodism...

posted by : Hugo Polanco, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Some questions...

1. Have you ever actually used an iPhone?
2. Do you know what an iPhone is?
3. Have you watched the video and paid attention?

Simpleton.

Your review is awful and based on nothing.

posted by : Rob, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
hilarious

piss poor write up. there are legitimate questions to ask and real concerns to voice, but they are based in fact. you know nothing about the phone apple has devoted an entire section of their webpage to with info readily available to all

the back is glass, not plastic, same as the front. you can choose google, yahoo, or bing as the search engine at any time. why are you not complaining about android releasing a new device with specs better than the last almost every month or few as opposed to apples annual release of a new device?

literally every of your points fails on a fact check and consistency. you stole and wasted three minutes that i will never get back with this mindless babble of an unimformed slouch yet to upgrade from a numeric pager. lame

posted by : Jay, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
INQ seems to have turned into an Apple Hater

OK, so Apple are very good at manipulating the media and managing their publicity, but I'm quite frankly sick of seeing so much one sided Apple hating coming out of INQ.

This article as pointed out by JeeBee was just opininionated non objective nonsense on the most part.

It's crap like this that is making me think about dropping INQ from my reading list. I like INQ and have been a reader for a long time, please get back to some balanced reporting.

Solo

posted by : SoloMalee, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Matt Warman called and wants his stolen steaming pile of crap article back.

Let's make up crap regardless of any merits or limitations of the new iPhone.

That people are required to say they aren't a fanboy is a sad fact that many people hate Apple and anything pro-Apple must be from a fanboi. After all it's only fanbois that buy Apple products.

posted by : Micheal, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
No no no

"I'll be the first to say I've never bought a single apple product to dismiss any fanboy accusations."

But APPLE RULEZ APPLE RULEZ APPLE RULEZ

Such a nofan I am.

posted by : Yavor, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
WTF Are you Talking About?

Well, this is the first time I've ever felt compelled to comment... This is one of the most biased articles i've ever read!

1. Yes, a bit of an issue but Flash isn't everyhing.

2. the name implies it's the 4th iPhone. There's no reference to 4G anywhere and no mobile operators are on about 4G yet. Your suggestion is a massive leap of faith and borderline insane!

3.Over 500 bas stations in a room on the same 11/13 Channel spectrum any you expect a low power device to compete how? Do you even know how WiFI works in this sort of deployment?

4. Sort of... Video calling is something I actually believe no one really cares about. Nice feature though if it works and it's OPEN STANDARD so should start appearing all over the shop.

5. Seriously, that comment is a misture of garbage and trash. It has a glass back and ergonomics is subjective. Load of phones have that "fall out of your hand" quality.

6. Yep, the price is high. Quality is better than most other phones though. plus it looks shiny. Never underestimate the lure of shiny things.

7. yes, but same with all phones. they are always out of date quickly. On the plus side you'll get a free OS update after year one... Moot point really.

8. you're only relevent point. Well done!

9. So is every other electronics device on the plannet (seemingly) all the manufacturers have this issue. You choose to ignore this though.

10. it's ADDED Bing as an option. Google is default.

Is this the best you could do? Seriously?

posted by : A. Dunn, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Bing? WTF!

I agreeon Bing, but c'mon, we all know Inq! here doesn't like ANYTHING, so this is a given. This site is a joke anymore, esp. with their jokes & bullshit names they create for everything. FAILSITE

posted by : Syzygy, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Content accuracy

I'm surprised after having watched the keynote this morning at the level of in-accuracies in this article.

I'll be the first to say I've never bought a single apple product to dismiss any fanboy accusations and I was simply interested to see the presentation. But as people above have clearly mentioned half of the facts above are in error.

To re-itterate a few, it has a glass back. The wifi didn't work as there was around 500+ wi fi hot spots from all the bloggers. I doubt many wi fi systems would be ok with 500+ base stations spaming the airwaves in one room. Indeed later on it worked after half the crowd turned theirs off.

The face time, being wifi only seemed purely due to carriers not having the network capacity for such a thing.

Bing was also just added as a 3rd option, but still defaulting to google.

I'm surprised at the lack of editorial control here. Is this really the quality of all the inquirer articles, I've been a daily reader for some years, but I'm quite shocked at this.

posted by : Paul, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Garbage, as expected.

I wouldn't expect anything less from such an aptly named site. Sadly, a family member linked this to me as a serious source of real criticism against the iPhone 4.

I must now go clean the gene pool.

posted by : boggled, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
rubbish?

I'll have to agree those 10 points are hard to agree on.. i think Apple iPhone owners are way to dumb to realise there is any correlation between the version number of the phone and the carrier network.. actually i think the majority of Apple users had no clue that their 3G phone used a 3G network..

posted by : Brunis, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple sux

Look here all you Apploosers! It took apple all this time to reach a 5MP camera with LED flash, when other companies rolled it out ages ago with xeon flash..

Value for money is garbage when you compare it to other awesome phones out there... keep yapping apploosers...

posted by : FaZ, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Get Real!

I am most definitely not an apple fanboi but this article is extremely poor and cant believe the Inq hasnt pulled it already!

1. I agree with this except saying 'half' is an unnecessary exageration opening yourself to other flames as per above. However, it is worth noting that Flash 5 i not currently in use so any defence based around Flash 5 as an alternative does not hold water yet. Basically, you cant interact with many websites but certainly not half.
2. Its called iPhone 4, not 4G! If anything, its the media thats at fault for projecting onto apple that they will name their device 4G!
3. Agreed, Yes, Wifi does not work at my work but my android phone works fine. Not a scientific poll but there are many other online reports of wifi problems.
4. Agree, paying or an app that will only work over a dodgy wi-fi connection (or not!) is rubbish. Most devices have had video calling for years - this is not new.
5. WTF!?! I have opposing thimbs so holding a phone is not a problem!
6. Yes, iPhones are overpriced - but no one is holding a gun to your head! If youre stupid enough to pay for it thats up to you.
7. Ummm, doesnt this apply to all phones & contracts !?!?
8. Totally agree, although battery use on android needs much improving.
9. Iphone isnt the only product to be made by foxcon difficult to say whether apple has any direct responsibility here. But worth keeping in mind though.
10. So so wrong! Its uses google. Im glad youve made this glaring error because it undermines the rest of your rubbish article. Having said that, there are plenty of real rationale reasons why other phones are better and much more cutting edge but your poor article doesnt do anything to support this.

posted by : Martin, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Apple is for Reeeeetards

Nice work Nick, you're the dog!

Ignore the fanbois, they're brainwashed monkeys.

You have a massive following!

NICK NICK NICK!!! HE'S THE SH1T!!!

posted by : Applesux, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
get to da choppah!

shriek!
i think ive stumbled upon a fanboi bickering frenzy!
time to do a burton i think

posted by : prof. bushka, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
To be a sheep

How refreshing to see an article that didn't hype the iPhone.

Despite the many errors it takes balls to not be a sheep and bleat on about how great iPhones are. Just look at some of the outrageous comments to this article.

Let's not forget that in the world of phones iPhone accounts for only 2% of handset sales yet receives about 70% of column inches. Apple are great at marketing to their dedicated customers (sheep)and no doubt the iPhone 4 will be a success despite its shortcomings.

Me, well I'll be sticking to Android where I have the freedom of loading the apps that I want from wherever I want to. (most of them free). I can customise the Android phone to meet my requirements. And I have a choice of devices.

Sheep or choice! You choose.

posted by : andrew mo, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Spot on

It is about time that someone said this stuff. What amazes me is all these people who are clearly suffering from Stockholm syndrome who obviously wasted a lot of money on the 3G and now feel the need to police the internet on behalf of Apple. The comment about users not being stupid enough not to know it is 4G broadband is spot on. There are people dumb enough out there to think that. They are also dumb enough to buy Apple shit. Notice the standard there "facts are all wrong" comments without saying what facts are wrong. I sometimes wonder if the Apple press office just cut and paste the same comments on web 2 sites.

posted by : hhhuhh, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
What JeeBee said ....

This is PC fanboy rhetoric and worse just wrong and poorly reasoned. What JeeBee said.

posted by : PorridgeBear, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Pathetic

A really pathetic article.
I think you need to do a lot more research on the whole flash thing. Quite frankly there are a lot of sites out there using flash for no good reason and are crap.

posted by : mikebartnz, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Worst Article Ever

If you're going to bash the new phone at least make your points valid...Fail!

posted by : Paul, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Rubbish article!

Of course the Iphone 4 has flaws. It has nearly *all* the flaws that the Iphones 1, 2 and 3 had. But its NEW! and SHINY! So thats all right then.

"Thanks for assuming your readers are total tards", FB said. Seems perfectly reasonable to me, based on some of these comments.

PS: I lied about the article being rubbish.

posted by : Anonymous Coward, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Could you please...

at least pretend to fact check these things? posting "articles" with this number of factual errors, you are just embarrassing yourself

posted by : chris, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
4? 4G? what's the difference?

You know those dumb people that buy things and don't know what they fully are?

How many people know What 4G means? tha majority of (iPhone) users are not highly technical...they couldn't tell the difference between GSM & kryptonite.

I think the observation of misleading people to suggest 4G is somewhat valid. Marketing teams often give names which are as appealing as they can make them without plainly misrepresenting the product. Some people will mislead themselves by attributing 4 to being 4G etc etc.

The iPhone 4 is a good idea if anything for the reason it will sell by the bucket load & the rest in rather unimportant.

posted by : Someone Special, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
@ Nick

I share and enjoy you poisonous hatred to the money pump Apple. Cheers from Bulgaria

posted by : Yavor, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Bullshit

I haven't read such a bullshit in a long time. Half of what your are saying is not even true and the other half is just ridiculous.
I'm not even an Apple supporter, in fact I don't even have an iphone, but I still get mad while reading your article.

btw.: I'm not a nativ speaker but even I can see some mistakes in your article.

posted by : Ronny, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Dumbass

'nuf said.

posted by : Joe, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Rubbish Review

Awful review

a) Your saying that the name looks like 4g how stupid do you think people are.
b) It has a glass back not plastic and it is as strong as sapphire crystal which is pretty damn strong.
c) You say the wi-fi has problems just because there were problems at the event. There is no evidence it was the iphones fault.
d) You said it can only search with bing. That is wrong the default is still google you simply have the choice of bing now.
e) It is priced at the same as the 3gs when it came out and i don't think too many people complained about the price considering how many bought them.

You clearly have no idea what your talking about.

posted by : HB1234, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Oh Wait!!! Heres the most important reason

The holy tech jihadi Nick says so!!

posted by : Sundar, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
I do not like Apple products

I’ve often found that Apple products bring out the worst in people, either the owners who consider everything else to be inferior and their need to prove Apple is the best, and non-owners who cry about the Evil that Apple is and how other platforms (Take your pick, Android, Symbian but maybe not Mobile Windows though :D ) are the light!
The author of this article fits in the above category, a man so desperate to prove that Apple is a waste of time that he makes ten rather lame, inaccurate repost to the products launch.
I’m really disappointed; I was looking forward to an amusing, insightful slagging off of Apple new iPhone and instead got a desperate ranting of a so called journalist. Nick, I expected more from you.

posted by : Christian, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Douche bag

Do they let anyone write articles now? All of the reasons this guy gives are just idiotic. Only reason I'm guessing he wrote this was to get traffic to this website. I've never had a problem wth my 3g on wifi, the phone slipping out of my hand, the walled garden with 200000 apps or any of the dumb reasons he gives. Saying it will be outdated in a year? Better than android with a new phone every month that do the same fucking thing as the iPhone.

posted by : tHizzle, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Biassed article

I have an HTC with Android and fully support what Google are trying to achieve with an open OS. I have an ipod touch and use chrome as my default browser on a PC. I think I'm objective. I also watched live blogs from the Apple keynote yesterday at WWDC.

This article is so totally loose with the facts and utterly biassed against the iphone (and Apple perhaps) that it astonishes me. To see this nonsense at the top of google's tech news is disappointing. If this is representative of the quality of the reporting from The Inquirer I'm removing it from my feeds list in the future.

A couple of points stand out and these have been covered neatly and objectively, in the "debunking" comment:

As was said in the keynote, the wifi was competing against 570 base stations in the same room from attendee bloggers. Not a typical scenario and I don't really see how the author can generalise that the iphone 4 therefore has inherent wifi problems?

As is also widely known now, Bing is an optional search engine with Google as the default. The author chose to leave this information out.

Why not call it the iphone 4? It appears to be a significant improvement on the 3GS and only pre-launch speculation labelled it as a 4G phone. I'm not sure why this is a reason not to buy it?

I laughed when I saw reason no. 5 and I'll say no more..."easy to slip out of your hands shape" :D

Regarding the price, I understand that it's a pretty high price for some budgets (mine included) but it seems we're getting a lot of well designed kit here. I'll wait for reviews once it's released.

And finally, Flash really isn't half of what's on the web. I do miss Flash content on my ipod touch and it is irritating at times seeing a blank space in a web page, esp BBC news. But it's only a minor problem and I'm sure someone's got something clever in mind to get round it.

I rarely make an effort to remember the names of reporters I'll make sure I dismiss anything with Nick Farrell's name on in the future.

posted by : Steve, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Rubbish Review

Awful review

a) Your saying that the name looks like 4g how stupid do you think people are.
b) It has a glass back not plastic and it is as strong as sapphire crystal which is pretty damn strong.
c) You say the wi-fi has problems just because there were problems at the event. There is no evidence it was the iphones fault.
d) You said it can only search with bing. That is wrong the default is still google you simply have the choice of bing now.
e) It is priced at the same as the 3gs when it came out and i don't think too many people complained about the price considering how many bought them.

You clearly have no idea what your talking about.

posted by : HB1234, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
cheers

Good article, Nick. I too have held out rather than waiting in a long line for a toy that does half as much than a real phone. Funny how a few people get all pissy-like when someone says something bad about apple. Those must be the folks who paid 599.00 for a 1g iphone when it first came out.

By the way, you forgot the BIGGEST reason the iphone is a really bad idea: AT&T.

posted by : Beasley, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
JeeBee is Right

This article is little more than a shameless piece of link-bait. JeeBee's post debunking the article is 100% factually accurate. Nick should never again be allowed to portray himself as a journalist for allowing so many factual errors, deliberate falsehoods, specious innuendos and completely unfounded accusations to occupy space in the same piece. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the iPhone 4 to be made. Unfortunately, you'd be hard pressed to find one here.

posted by : tddtdd, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
What a piece of crap.

This article was really a piece of crap. Author just keep on rambling without any reason what so ever. all of these reasons are really really stupid. was this written by a 2 yr old ?

posted by : Gaurav, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
@ Nick

have you actually been there or you are collecting from other blogs Nick, i guess i replied to my question so STFU

posted by : hexx, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Dead On!!

Good article Nick, but you really should check your grammar. "... is has a stainless steel..."

posted by : Doug Glass, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
Debunking this article.

1. Flash is not "half" of the web, it's a minor part, usually used for video for which there is a HTML5 alternative that many sites are using. Other video sites offer apps to access their content, and many flash games have app versions as well. Now that Farmville is ported, I'd say that most users' needs are catered for.

2. It's the iPhone 4, not the iPhone 4G. Stop deliberately misleading. And if this is your number two reason for not using it, then the iPhone 4 is an unqualified success.

3. The WiFi did work later on, there was a small glitch in a rare situation, unsurprising that a mobile device can't compete with higher power laptops. I've never read an article about WiFi issues with current iPhones, so I think you're just making stuff up.

4. FaceTime is an open standard built upon open standards - there will be Windows, Mac, Linux support in apps very quickly. Oddly enough cellular providers don't want to support high-bitrate video calls (unlike Three in the UK, but 3G video calls on this network looked rubbish).

5. People who have actually used it say it is far better to hold. It has a glass back.

6. Miniaturisation costs money. People will buy this by the millions, therefore the price is right.

7. All phones are out of date within months usually. At least Apple provides OS updates for over two years, that's far more support than HTC have provided for my Hero.

8. As a Hero user, I can categorically state that it would take a miracle to buy another Android phone.

9. All phones are built in the same, or worse, conditions. Apple and HP are the only two that have minimum working condition requirements of their Chinese contractors.

10. It uses Google for search, with Bing as an option. So you're wrong again. Choice is good, and Apple is providing it here. Yahoo! is the other option btw.

posted by : JeeBee, 08 June 2010 Complain about this comment
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