Microsoft confirms HTML5 video support

cheer up, FF 4 coming soon, will be faster....

Opera is fast, but they ignore the users, It looks like the devs have left them, their new 'address bar search' is HOPELESS, if you type 'google' it searches google for 'google'!!!!!!! ROFL ROFL

And FF 3.6 has too many good features and user support for peeps to leave it!!!

What happened to WMV?

Flash, if not anything else, is getting the tips of its sandals stepped on - and when I say tips, I mean the material part only (ie missing the toes completely). The only true damage Flash has is from the bad press it is getting (mainly from the sour Apple). The media has grossly exaggerates the situation.

What of HTML5 Video Digital Rights Management. This is a complete concern if HTML5 Video is going to really be taken seriously. Sites like Hulu, Netflix, and any others with subscription or rental business models will be hard pressed to switch away from the current plugins.

HTML5 Video is overall a step in the right direction for browsers, but Flash and Silverlight are still several steps ahead of the curve and that will be the case for the near future. Adobe has time to maneuver into HTML5 as it becomes mainstream, and could potentially continue to create additional upsets in the online video segment. I mean, HTML5 video implementations do not do realtime composites of various video sources and we still do not know how much control the web designer will have over the appearance and interactivity of the internal video player. Also, they still have not completely decided on a decoder. Sure, H.264 is on the plate for most, but Microsoft doe not even have its HTML5 browser out the gate yet. So I say Please, when I hear that Flash takes another beating, when HTML5 Video or even HTML5 is hardly in use.

When I play HTML5 videos in Firefox and hover over the video to bring up the controls, it judders too. Or if I do other Javascript stuff on the page whilst the video is playing, it judders.

But when I do the same in Opera, there's no juddering. Same with Safari. And with Chrome. It's Firefox, not HTML5. No doubt a load of Firebadger fanbois with 2Ghz Core 2 quads and 4GB RAM will soon be along to say they never see any juddering so we must be making it up, otherwise we're using obsolete hardware that has absolutely no justification being used on the modern web to play 400x300px 360kbps videos. For example, a 3.3Ghz Pentium 4 or a 2.8Ghz Core 2 with 1GB RAM on Windows XP. The fact that the same hardware plays the videos smoothly in all other supporting browsers is irrelevant...

Those people that mention silverlight as a comment to this article might want to take a few seconds to find out what silverlight is and what HTML5 is and what a codec is.

So MS is hoping to acquire the rights to the h.264 patented stuff then eh, let's hope that doesn't come to fruition (or did it already?)

It's Firefox of course. With IE supporting ONLY h264 Firefox will lose a lot of its userbase. At last it seems MS tactics think will happen, as Safari even with h264 is not a real threat here.

The MS license for H.264 is for decoding only.
So you can watch for free - but you have to pay to make H.264 content.

I just hope google do properly open source VP8 then the rest of the world can move on while Apple/Adobe/MS et all fight amongst themselves about who owns MY computer.

@Kob
Flash has hardware acceleration. HTML5 will eventually get it, just not yet, which is where all the speed issues come from. It's kind of like the whole Job's rants on Flash about it being a cpu and battery hog, when HTML5 video is in every benchmark either equal or worse than it.

The thing is, while we all might not like Flash, the thing is we need to keep using it if we want all content off every site. We simply can't remove it at a whim like the iAtola Job's is wanting.

As for MS and IE9, if you read the full interview they don't bash Flash much. It's more a "as well as Flash and Silverlight support IE9 has H.264"...yes they want everyone to use Silverlight, but are pretty much hedging their bets supporting everything (ish).

Bill is right on, I smell something fishy with. They are like the government and always have some sneaky alternate motive hidden.

Tried firefox a few months ago with a mozilla's HTML5 video demo, and it stuttered horribly on my slow computer. No problems with Flash though.

Don't know if to blame the HTML5 standard, implementation or the source material.

What about Silverlight?

this is sad but maybe someone will offer xvid plugins for html5. It's not that I hate this h.264, it's more that my aging hardware has difficulty playing it. maybe this is their way of trying to force me to upgrade??

I would be happy to see flash die (lame user control options) but trading to some other Owned brand is just as bad.

Open source for web media or no source!

Yea for Convergence, Less Vole, More Goodness. Another Media story today from Newsweek.

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Look for 3D dreams with those HOT Schicks & Ummmm, Don't pud, Your HTML5 experince will be scatter'd & tired.

For latest from theULTIMAT, 1D. Like Death, only completely invisible. Now Try that for FIVE.

drashek

It seems like H.264 will be 21st century "GIF". Next question is, what is the "PNG", which will replace the H.264?

I hope the Microsoft uses the codec inside Windows OS for h264, and not enforcing to use something that is shipped with IE9. This way user can at least choose which decoder to use.

Yes, H.264 is not an open standard. The deal with it is at the moment that the company which owns the patents/etc on it has basically agreed to not require licenses for it until 2015 or so.

So basically, 5-6 years into the future everybody will suddenly find themselves needing to hand over sums of money if they want to continue to use it. It's the standard move of not charging until the customer is hooked, then beating them over the head for money to continue their addiction.

I'm not 100% on the dates there, but that's the basic gist of their current agreement.

I think currently firefox uses a different codec, but google I think was planning on releasing a different one that would be open source. We'll see how this all plays out in the end, but putting all your money on H.264 is a bad idea.

"M$ is supporting an open standard?"
Do not be mistaken. H.264 is an _industry_ standard. Not an open one.
It's not necessary the safest bet, but it may currently be the most convenient one.
We'll have to wait to see how the future unrolls on this one

Apple and Microsoft agree on something? Surely this is the sign that marks the end? We're all dooooooomed!

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1596675/microsoft-launches-ie9-platform-preview

M$ is supporting an open standard? There's something fishy in here, I can tell. They'll probably embbed it in some weird named "new technology", proprietary or severely twisted, like OOXML.
Although I don't hate flash at all, never had issues with it, I do preffer the open HTML5, just for being open, so It will be able to run in a wider range of devices, including Apple gizmos (which I don't own).
The less people owning my machines functionality, the better.

Of course Microsoft bashes Flash. They have their own Silverlight alternative to promote.