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McAfee bug reveals a rift in the Wintel alliance

Intel never upgraded to Vista or Windows 7
Fri Apr 23 2010, 11:25

THE MCAFEE BUG that caused huge problems for Windows XP systems this week has revealed something deeply embarrassing for the WinTel alliance.

According to the Oregonian newspaper, lots of PCs at Intel were laid low by the bug because it had not listened to the Vole's marketing and upgraded to Vista or Windows 7.

In fact while Intel claims to be at the bleeding edge of hardware technology, it did not think that Vista or Windows 7 were worth the upgrade.

The information is almost as embarrassing to Microsoft as if it came out that Intel was running nothing but Linux boxes.

The Vole has been telling the world plus dog that they have to upgrade for the sake of Microsoft's profits, er, security.

Microsoft has been pouring scorn on companies that thought the old but stable Windows XP was good enough for business ever since Vista was released. However meanwhile its number one business partner was whistling in the background and occasionally pointing into the horizon saying, "Oh look, an elephant!"

For years Intel's chips have enabled the churn of ever more bloated Microsoft operating systems. As a result punters who have wanted to run the latest Microsoft software have had to buy new, faster computers with Intel chips.

This went really well until Vista arrived late in 2006, full of bugs and incompatibilities. Intel was just one of about 90 per cent of businesses that decided, we will sit this one out.

When Windows 7 arrived last year it was too new to deploy and besides Intel, like many businesses, had cut its budget back to ride out the recession.

It's not as if Intel had tried to hide the fact that it had not upgraded to Vista or Windows 7. However most of the tech press assumed that Intel would have been in the queue on day one. The fact that it wasn't gives the thumbs up to most other outfits that, like Intel, could not see the point in upgrading. µ

 

 

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Utter BS

I also work at Intel and was on the front lines during this stupid bug (thanks McAfee). Intel does have Windows 7 in the environment and is working to upgrade all 80,000+ of our employees and stand-alone work stations. Corporate upgrades do not happen over night. Do i wish that every system would have been on Win7 faster, yes...Is Intel holding off on Win7 on purpose? No. utter bs. Vista was different... it was a POS.

posted by : Chris, 25 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Problem not so black and white

"when there are problems with these third-party apps buggering up your Dimdows system, suddenly you shouldn’t be taking them into account when deciding whether or not to move away from Microsoft."

So by your same thought process, we should also dump Linux because it was easily infected by the Linux screensaver trojan just a few months ago?

ShiftTheBlame(TM)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349678

Fact is this was Mcafee's fault pure and simple.

posted by : pragmat@rd, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Brian

That's effectively in a lab - the reality is different.
( I don't care about Apple actually, Linux runs on all my computers.)

posted by : Keith, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Bla Bla Bla Not Microsoft’s Fault Bla Bla Bla

Funny how, when you ask a Dimdows apologist why you should choose Microsoft’s OS over the alternatives, they will point to the thousands of third-party applications available for it. That’s really the only reason to run Windows, albeit a pretty persuasive one.

Yet when there are problems with these third-party apps buggering up your Dimdows system, suddenly you shouldn’t be taking them into account when deciding whether or not to move away from Microsoft.

posted by : Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
What a Screed!

Ridiculous. Anyone who knows anything about corporate IS life-cycles knows that upgrades are often a long, drawn-out process--and with MS OSes, IS usually waits until, oh, the first SP or so.

Big companies have lots of reasons to "go it slow". So slagging Intel is a bit ludicrous--they are a business after all, which needs to get things done...

posted by : Kreig Zimmerman, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
McAfee bug

I work at Intel and can say that Windows 7 is in use. Our systems are upgraded every 2 years, so systems older than 6 months are running XP. Vista was passed over for the obvious reasons.

posted by : Tim, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Consumers the victims!

Even though consumers were happy with XP, Microcrap forced consumers to buy the new Operating Suppositories Vista and then Windows 7 when purchasing a new computer. Consumers get to debug each new MS OS as they come along, while wise IT Managers stuck with XP. I have several applications that I like but will not run on Vista. HP does not always write drivers for older printers and other peripherals forcing customers to discard perfectly good hardware.

posted by : Mike Raphone, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Just the facts

The facts people.
No OS is hack-proof
Intel Is Upgrading to Windows 7 (soon I might add)
This WAS McAfool's fault, period.

posted by : Rob, 24 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@ keith

dream what,that the apples are 100% hack proof??? that is a dream.

http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f39/apple-hacked-first-again-pwn2own-203167/

posted by : brian, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Meego to the rescue

Don't count on Intel investing big in a "Windows 7 upgrade". Looks like the MeeGo version of Linux they are helping to develop is slated for the desktop as well as mobile devices:

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MeeGo-to-go-beyond-mobile-devices-985119.html

The IT savings (both in software and maintenance costs) to a company the size of Intel would be huge. An "Intel-customized" version of MeeGo for their specific IT needs would be easy to deploy and maintain, while increasing network security (to prevent attacks similar to what happened via a Windows system at Google recently). Looks good on Microsoft.

This McAfee incident (and the Chinese attack on Google) should be a wake-up call for any business depending upon Microsoft software for mission-critical purposes. Running an OS that "needs" third-party virus scanners that require unrestricted access to critical system files (which are also easily accessible to malware) is obviously not a great idea. And even if a Microsoft Windows system is running the latest virus scanner (as I am sure the Google system was), it can still function as a conduit to allow hackers into your internal IT network.

posted by : Ameego, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Patience

Intel is upgrading to Windows 7, it just hasn't yet: http://download.intel.com/it/pdf/The_Value_of_PC_Refresh_with_Microsoft_Windows_7.pdf

posted by : John, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
M$'s newer products look bloated and expensive,

when what you've got is good enough and cheap enough. --What's the advantage to 7? Nothing significant, except for designed incompatibility that forces you into the upgrade treadmill for everything.

posted by : bigger_luddite, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
repeat

Duh! from your own site:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1021650/intel-dumps-vista

posted by : andrew, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@ BB

lol, if you dont like Nick.. don't read the INQ. I like the rants.. the make me chuckle.

posted by : Nick 4 PM, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Brian

Dream on

posted by : Keith , 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Blah blah blah Nick

This article and McAfee's excuses are almost as bad as Apple's pathetic blame on Microsoft for Apple's distribution of trojans on their iPods. It is entirely McAfee's fault for this debacle, not people who chose to stick with XP, not Microsoft for whatever OS they release that people can *choose* to buy or not, not Intel for supplying chips.

This deference of blame is yet another reason I will not poison any computer system I have control over with McAfee's degenerate products. If the company itself can't even take responsibility for its mistakes, it says far more about the company than the mistakes themselves.

As for the article itself, now I'm getting sick of Nick and his vacuous articles. His jabs at Apple or whoever were entertaining for a while, but now he's becoming like Demerjian, only with less content.

posted by : BB, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Anonymous Coward

while i agree with you in for the most part, the biggest target always gets the most hits. it has already been proven that crapple and linux can be hacked just as fast and easy(sometimes easier)then windows.

posted by : brian, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Bashing for no reason

This is really just taking a stab at nothing. Trying to find the smallest piece to attack MS on. It really isn't newsworthy in any way.

posted by : Anon, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@brian

Of course, if Microsofts OS werent such a security-deficient, virus-prone pile of pimply poo, then people wouldnt *need* to use other pimply pooware like McCrappee to help keep some of the viruses out, sometimes.

posted by : Anonymous Coward, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
not a win problem

this microsoft problem was not a microsoft issue, it was a Mcshitty problem. use junk software and this is what happens.

posted by : brian , 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Poor Nick

Writes a piece on Apple ... cue fruity fan bois bashing

Write on MS ... why bashing? not like anyone actually likes MS. Sure the Win 7 is good, but its 20 years late. And I like MS.

posted by : I know, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Comical

Comical rant...and utter bs. Microsoft probably isn't running Intel's newest chips either on every users machine.

So what?

Your anti-MS attitude is so comical it's actually pretty sad.

Get a life.

posted by : Mike, 23 April 2010 Complain about this comment
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