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Thou shalt not filter the net
Tue Apr 13 2010, 10:00

IF THE UK ATTEMPTS to bring in an Internet filtering scheme similar to that being touted in Australia it might find itself being tapped on the shoulder by Uncle Sam.

The Australian government has just had a visit from the American ambassador Jeff Bleich, who told the Rudd government that its plan to filter the Internet was not very nice.

The Aussie politicians claim that they want to protect children from the dangers of the world wide web by filtering out content that good Aussie kids should not be interested in. However also on the hit list are websites displaying topics that the Aussie government does not want its citizens to think about.

On an ABC Q&A program Bleich said the "Internet has to be free" and that there are better ways of combating child pornography.

He wondered what was wrong with the idea of tracking people who are using the Internet for criminal purposes and arresting them. This he felt would be much better than making everyone suffer because of the antics of a few.

The US State Department previously said it raised concerns regarding the filtering policy with the Australian government.

Australian Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said yesterday that having no regulation to combat illegal activity weakens "all that is good about the Internet". Apparently all that is good about the Internet is access to any information except if your government does not like it.

The US ambassador is the latest to join the swelling ranks opposing the Australian scheme, which now include Google, Yahoo, Save The Children, Reporters Without Borders, The Greens, Senator Nick Xenophon, and shadow treasurer Joe Hockey. µ

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Here's something every Aussie must know.

Conroy's internet filter will block - AND THIS IS A FACT - material which is legal to view and buy in the USA, UK, Canada and other great civilized democracies we respect. Conroy always talks about child porn and bestiality because he's smart and he knows these things press emotional buttons in people. He never talks about the other material him and conservative cronies want to block.

posted by : Craig James, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Psihomodo

I really don't expect anything more from your own citizens.

People often seek out news relating to what they want to hear, and that includes so called "well informed" people. The man who tells another to "stop watching Fox News" is just as biased in his news as the "Fox News" watcher.

I remember seeing some hokey Australian video on the net where they interview US citizens about their knowledge of "facts" and get some funny responses. It was pretty funny, but when the interviewer said he was the then Prime Minister John Howard, and people believed him, it really hit home just how trivial all these "facts" are to every day use.

Yeah, I guess it doesn't hurt to know who was the first man on the moon, or the prime minister of Russia, or the location of Mauritania. In the end though, is it really worth remembering for the great supermajority of people? Does it help them or really affect them in their lives? Do they need to discuss it, or remember it? Nah, not really. It's just "trivia," which is "trivial." People will concentrate on what's important, not these mundane facts, or things that will not affect them.

So if you happen to be surprised that people here, or anywhere for that matter, don't care about the things that you do, about things thousands of miles (kilometers!) away... don't be. That's generally the occupation of people who have nothing better to do with their time.

posted by : BB, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Australians do *NOT* love to be censored

@Bob Bandicooter,

This policy is most definitely not the one that Krudd and company went to the last election with, this one appeared after they were in power.

Most Australians regard Stephen Conroy as a dangerous buffoon and an embarrassment to Australia on the world stage. Popular? No way. If you judge by the way people vote, just wait for the next election.

Bravo to the Americans on this one - maybe the Australian government will listen to them, because they sure are deaf to their own population.

posted by : Ian, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
No, they didn't

@Bob Bandicooter,

Australians voted for the government that promised before
the election that it will censor the internet

The Australian Labor Party proposed an optional filtering system at the 2007 federal elections. They only switched it to be mandatory once they got in power.

So, *nobody* voted for the kind of internet censorship that Labor is planning to bring in now.

posted by : BrownieBoy, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Yes, but

@ Jimbo - Although you're right about the selective media and hidden agendas over in the States, their citizens still have the ability to access whatever they want worldwide and make up their own opinions.

That 99.9% don't look beyond their own domestic sources really says something though, yeah?

posted by : Timboj, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Australians Love to be Censored

Australians really love being censored. They have a long history of yearning for it, going back to convict days.

Remember the previous Australian Communications Minister, who became known around the world as "The World's Biggest Luddite". Yes, he wanted to censor the internet too.

The latest communications minister, who will succeed in censoring the net, is a very popular guy in Australia. Judge popularity by the way people vote. Australians voted for the government that promised before the election that it will censor the internet.

posted by : Bob Bandicooter, 14 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Jimbo

I'm not surprised you didn't know about your people censored media.

I mean, come on, you have more clueless people on the street than anybody. And clueless about all sorts of things... Now that scary ;)

posted by : Psihomodo, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
US-exclusive

@Ryan whenever I criticize the US policies amongst americans I get the excuse that the population isn't responsible and most people aren't behind all their government does.. meanwhile they did vote in bush as often as possible but excuse that with 'he did well with the economy and that's more important to people'
(So it's with some hidden amusement that I saw him destroy the economy completely in the end.)

posted by : W.-, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
As for the UK

"Mandy" does not seem to be aware that the EU, both Parliament and Commission, is against key parts of his scenario. EU directives, and there will be a strong one, have force of law throughout the EU. End of the bill in the UK, I'd say. It saddens me that we have to look to the EU to defend our consumer interests against the pro-business types we have.

posted by : B Frankl, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
The U.S. government is completely full of sh!t!!!!

As an American citizen living in Thailand I've found that not only most U.S. based TV and radio programming is censored outside the U.S. but also some news events unfavorable to the U.S. are also censored to anyone, even American citizens living abroad. I think the majority of U.S. censorship is corporate censorship, but some is not. I must say that I make no distinction between corporate censorship and government censorship as both are equally as disgusting. I have documented all cases of U.s. censorship that I've encountered, whether corporate or government censorship for the past four years. I have also complained to the major networks: ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and the radio monopoly corporation Clear Channel Communications, among others, and have not received a single reply from any of the major networks. The smaller media websites that responded indicated that it was because of contractual agreements that prevented them from allowing international customers from viewing their news and/or media content. The really sad part is 99.99% of Americans don't know this is happening. You have to be living abroad to realize that censorship exists in the "land of the free". How sad.

posted by : Jimbo in Thailand, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Alan

Yeah, because there were just a "few" messed up, genocidal, fanatical, a-holes in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Timboj, right on!

posted by : Ryan, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
oh really?

"This he felt would be much better than making everyone suffer because of the antics of a few."

Says the man representing the country that invades entire countries "because of the antics of a few."

posted by : Alan, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Local affairs

The decision to roll out a national firewall should be made solely in the capital of the country. In this case, Peking.

posted by : Midday Water, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
@Timboj

Hear, hear!

posted by : Daniel Chambers, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
Good

I read this news a couple of weeks ago and as an Australia that appreciates freedom of thought (and un-hindered speed in his non-child porn-related browsing) I totally welcome this news. The more opposition, the better. Hopefully the US Government is high profile enough to make a difference with our oppressive powers that be.

Say what you want about the yanks, if there's one thing they'll defend tooth and nail is 'Freedom of Speech'. The US government may have a short list of enviable traits, but I think that belief is a page we can take out of their book.

posted by : Timboj, 13 April 2010 Complain about this comment
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