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China fumes as Google burns bridges
SEARCH OUTFIT Google is having a laugh as it begins its long march out of China.
Although everyone and their dog knows that Google is leaving the country, it has decided to try the patience of the Glorious People's Republic before it goes.
Yesterday it announced that it is no longer censoring its Google China site. This means that the Chinese people can learn about how the Communist authorities propped up their people's revolution by shooting democracy protesters in Tienanmen Square and search for things written about Tibet by the former theocratic monarch, the Dalai Lama.
Google has been saying that if it has to censor its site then it can't be bothered staying in China. China said that if it wants to make money like all the other imperialist pigs who have their feet in the Chinese trough it is going to have to do as it is told.
As you would expect, the Chinese were swift to condemn Google's anti-censorship moves, saying it was "totally wrong" and accused it of breaking a promise made when it launched its service in China.
The US based Internet search giant is redirecting users in mainland China to its unrestricted Hong Kong site, google.hk, although the Great Firewall of China can still censor search results.
According to the BBC, Google's move to effectively shut down its mainland Chinese search service, google.cn, is a major blow to China's international image.
Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters that Google's move was an isolated act by a commercial company and should not affect China-US ties "unless politicised" by others.
China is embarrassed by the loss of Google which managed to make it look incredibly bad before it left.
However it has lots of other friends in American IT industry, such as Yahoo, Microsoft and Apple, who are all happy to do business in the country and help prop up the authoritarian Communist regime. µ
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I feel just condemning China is not enough. There are so many new systems put by western governments which do exactly or if not better than the great firewall of China. The storage of private data required before it can be deleted is another. So just by blaming China , google can not wash its hands clean. It has oppose every move restricting the freedom of the internet whether it comes from USA or China without bias.
The difference is the media coverage.
China is alwasy cast as a huge, ugly, authoratarian regime with the USA as the land of the free.
You only need to look at videos like this one of Oscar Grant being put face-down on the ground by police on a station in Oakland, then shot in the back, to realise that the Chinese do not have a monopoly on extreme beliefs or harsh policing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHjhtYZpX0
Driving around China, you're struck by the sense of energy everywhere - the strong family units and the ambition of the people.
Drive from 'sad' Las Vegas to 'gun ridden' LA and you will see trailer parks the size of small countries - with poor kids, uneducated, slopping around in scruffy clothes - living 'the American Dream'
Is any country perfect? No.
But be a little more open for gawd's sake.
Protestors in China... herded by police - possible deaths
Protestors in London... herded by police - definite deaths
If America is truly the land of the free, then why is it the poor black kids get put in khaki uniforms and sent off to be shot in Afghanistan, while their parents work crap jobs to pay off the massive debts generated by the elite classes?
Is China 'whiter than white' ? No chance...
...but if you're looking for the person with the white-sneakers to take the first step on the clean carpet...
...then I wouldn't suggest you send the UK or USA
WHOLE TRUTHS and nothing but, if you please.
Thanks Google for putting freedom of speech ahead or corporate profits.
I think Ultra Surf can be used to circumvent the Firewall of China.
My proofreading sometimes fails with the scrolling box.
go_ogle is tracking you all around the web right into your home. -- What are the Chinese doing to you except providing cheap products made by practically slave labor?
Get past the us/them view, because neither China nor go_ogle have *your* interests in mind.
There is surely *much* more going on here. Name *one* corporation that has ever put a nebulous ideal of freedom above their own profits. Nope, my bet is the Chinese object because go_ogle is merging with the NSA, and they're not going to let them spy so easily.
Came back for a second look after runnng across this:
http://gawker.com/5491756/
Only international pressure can let chinese people free of their government authoritarism.
Even if they want to articulate an opposition, the gov control every aspect of communication in the country, so it's a no go.
There is no way to enter in a war with China too, as they have enough nuke to make a huge mess.
UN also has it's hand tied, as China is one of security council members.
I'd like to congratulate Google for it's bold move against China gov. Hope another companies follow.
As for M$ and Yahoo, I surely will stop using their mail and internet products, as they may put some backdoors on their products to allow the gov to sneak into my computer.
i meant 'hoping'
also @egil this has nothing to do with international relations
im just happy that SOMEBODY whether it be a government, or corporation in actualy standing up to the chinese
im sure the chinese realize that the actions of google dont in anyway represent the views of the govenment
this is exactly what i was hopping they would do, but i was worried, earlier some of the things google was saying made me think they would cave to the chinese
in any case, respect to google
I was wondering if anyone noticed that there has never been a communist on this planet and there never will be. You could say China is a Socialist Totalitarian regime or something of the like but not communist. Dictatorships come in many forms but they all seem to have a few threads in common, one being no freedom.
Put person thru College & get into 'd Jurno biz. Would anyone write about death row by being there, of course NOT. Thats NOT ALLOWED. Yet, after extense resarch, writer cranks out article. Never been there myself, author sluped emat, reader now can slurp too, heres von drashek latest .cn slurp, from Home Port of Long Island:28 Minutes Ago. TS Being Speed Reader and C&P Master, can do theSLURP. News Travels Fast, For Upper Command.
BEIJING — As Google began redirecting tens of millions of Chinese users on Tuesday to its uncensored Web site in Hong Kong, the company’s remaining mainland operations came under pressure from its Chinese partners and from the government itself.
A bouquet of flowers lay on the Google logo outside the company’s office in Beijing on Tuesday after the company said it would no longer filter results and was redirecting mainland Chinese users to an uncensored site in Hong Kong — effectively closing down the mainland site.
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The Chinese government moved on Tuesday to restrict access of mainland users to the Hong Kong site, the use of which Google had hoped would allow it to keep its pledge to end censorship while retaining a share of China’s fast-growing Internet search market.
But mainland Chinese users on Tuesday could not see uncensored Hong Kong content because government computers either blocked the content or filtered links to searches for objectionable content.
Beijing officials were clearly angered by Google’s decision, which focused global attention on the government’s censorship policies, and there were signs of possible escalation in the dispute.
China’s biggest cellular communications company, China Mobile, was expected to cancel a deal that had placed Google’s search engine on its mobile Internet
Maybe Google Should Take Hint: Peoples Republic Just Don't Like google.Par lee vou
Thumbs up for Google on exercising its principles; thumbs down for Yahoo and its master, Microsoft.
Why aren't the mainstream press asking the question: "Why are Microsoft and Microsoft-Yahoo putting profits ahead of principes, despite the lead shown by Google?".
OK. Google wins my vote. No more Microsoft software (I'm finally going to Linux), and Google will be my only search engine. I choose to vote with my wallet.
I am happy that you are able to find joy in the corporatism of the US, and how it leads to private businesses handling international relations.
One more reason to us Google over the other search engines.
Google, I am so proud of you.
YA GOOGLE!!!!!!!!
doin' the right thing :)
From what I read Google is one of the main tools that researches used to access educational documents. If this is true, and there is no alternative, it is definitely going to be a bigger blow to the Chinese than just losing face. It will be something that they will have to develop if they want to move beyond bring the worlds cheap manufacturer.