AMD boosts CPUs

@Melville
Sounds like a budget buster. Plus I don't think those laptop power bricks are efficient. Standard stuff is what you want. I was wondering if we could use an expandable format for the PSU where you stack units of 150 wats, as many or as few as you need. So all the PSU's come down to the base unit and you sell more base units which hopefully lowers production costs. I guess all the connections would hurt your efficiency, but what if you only powered what you need-you'd lose efficiency on the high end but gain a lot on the low.

@Magee
I'm not buying from a company that's sending billions of dollars to the EU fat cats (whch is just the icing on the cake). I know a lot of people in the EU are frustrated with the way they get charged more for stuff, but the way I see it, it's just one hand washing the other and that's the price these companies pay to do business there which is pretty odd, you have to charge me more? But wait for it, it comes around in the 'end''; another back door tax with zero accountability, “This is not your damn roadkill, I mean money!”. Yeah, take that crime!

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@Zoran
Did you ever try a laptop style 150w 12v power brick coupled with an ATX pico PSU?

AMD SB850 paired with 890 chipset specs:
A-link with X4 Gen 2, PCIe 4x1 Gen 2 as well as 14+2 USB 2.0 ports and SATA 3, USB3 provided by third party chip.
Thurban X6 CPU's expected by May 2010 ;-D.

ATI 5830 5 February 2010 same PCB, cooling, 256bit BUS and DDR5 as 5850, lower clocks related specs: GPU core clock 625 Mhz, shaders 1280 and DDR5 800 Mhz memory clock ;-D.

AMD 890 chipsets inc. various segment variants such as FX, GX, X etc 10 April 2010; improvements tweaks and features: SATA 3, HT, power efficiency, crossfire it is more forward compatible with Bulldozer and Bobcat Q1 2011 socket naming e.g AM2r2=AM2+ so AM3r2=AM3+,
(see AMD roadmap slides 2010 - 2011).

Also the 6 core Thurban is on horizon ;-D, AMD needs to improve it at the moment highest Thurban specs: 2.8 GHZ, HT 2.4 and TDP 140, the best X6 Thurban CPU.

CPU Deneb Phenom 2 X4 975 specs: 3.6 GHZ 6Mb L3 cache and 140 TDP Q1 2010.
It would be nice a Deneb X4 CPU at 4 GHZ e.g Phenom 2 X4 995 4.0 GHZ ;-D.

did you run Win7 on AMD 780 chipset motherboard? it's a great experience, stable and quiet, plus awsome graphics, if you have a chance to upgrade to Phenom II X4 like HD925/955 etc, you are getting something for gaming where no other place can offer!

I don't know what chipset you guys Blackadder & mike are on.

Maybe your on the old ATi chipset for Intel processor or something!

I've had 0 problema with 690G, 780G, 785G chipsets. I've built about 15-20 odd PC's for friend's,family & office based on them.

There have been 0 problems. I've used Vista & now Win7 on them.

If you're on XP then I don't know.

Talking about drivers, Give me a freaking break!

I've also built computers based on Intel...You need to manually locate chipset drivers for Intel based...from their site.

Not to mention locating it on Intel's site is a nightmare in itself everything is so damn cluttered.

AMD chipset drivers all come aboard in the Catalyst driver suite.

You can uncheck to install the graphics driver if you use a Nvidia card.

It's as simple as that.

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quote "Intel chipsets... are very stable and that's reason enough and you get easy drivers updates and support; same goes for Genuine Intel motherboards."

As much fun as we have lashing out at the big companies, sticking XP on an intel box, and then avoiding pr0n sites, makes for a very reliable box.

@blackadder: I actually quite prefer the AMD boards & chipsets. If you ask me, they're far more reliable than intel's boards, and you get decent integrated graphics with them too.

At my place of employment they purchase a large number of genuine intel boards because "they just work" however, every single board that comes in needs a bios update before it will function properly, regardless of the model. The most glaring of issues is that they won't shutdown/restart in RHEL 5 without the update. These boards, they aren't exactly new, there's no reason for them to basically be arriving with their initial bios rev on them.

Their extreme series boards while nice looking, entirely for show imho. Generally you're not going to see a workstation or server with one in them. Servers should be going with a multi-cpu solution if they need horsepower. Workstations don't need the extra cost of SLI, and the other bells and whistles.

As for AMD chipsets, the only time I've actually needed to update the bios on them is when throwing a brand new CPU model into one - which is the way it should be.

I've sold a couple of low power machines recently built around the Athlon/Phenom II (X2-X4) and 785G... Using asus or msi microATX boards and they all consumed ~45W idle and 90~115W fully loaded (p95 and 3dmark06 running hand in hand)... if you limit the clocks to around 1600MHz on the cpu and undervolt them to sthg bewtween 1.1-1.16V they don't pass the 75W mark (measured on the wall socket) when equipped w/ 4GB DDR3 1600 and a single 7200rpm drive nad an optical drive...

The only problem I'm facing on the low power front is the PSU! none of my suppliers is interested in providing good quality 200-250W PSUs thus I'm forced to use a 350W 80+ bronze SeaSonic SS-350ET... If they would, the idle wattage would be somewhere in the high thirties and the max load well below a 100 even if not underclocked/volted... Even a 150W PSU would be more than sufficient for these platforms - but theere's none!

@ Mark: you don't need a BE to lower the multiplier! the only benefit of BE is that you can higher it.

No doubt AMD could pull off a 45nm dual core at 45 watts if they downclocked towards 2 Ghz and lowered the cache size. I would love to buy one of these, instead of having to buy a more expensive unlocked black edition and underclock to get a similar effect. I don't understand why aren't doing it.

I recently picked up for cheap a Zino HD with a AMD 780G chipset and 3250E 1.5 ghz cpu and the radeon HD4330 graphics and its a great low power unit with better performance than I thought it would be.
Amd does need more chipsets through, and I have always liked there cpu's. Good speed and dependability for a lot lower price. Remember the good ol days when you could take out an intel cpu and put an AMD in. Nivida did fairly well with there chipsets but it seemed to come at the cost of there graphics.
I won't even look at nvidia cards anymore, maybe they will come back in a few years as we need the competition.

AMD just doesn't just get it, they need to have there own in-house decent chipset to go with their CPU's.

Before you all go flaming me with ATI chipsets, let me remind you those are very old ones designed way before the merger/takeover, and don’t get me started with finding drivers and updates for their chipsets.

Chipsets is what sets it apart, Intel have known this for years and they making a killing on it, because their CPU's and Chipsets go well together, same reason Windoze and Office gets on like a house on fire.
Intel chipsets may not be the flashiest on the market and may not have the latest bells and whistles, but they are very stable and that's reason enough and you get easy drivers updates and support; same goes for Genuine Intel motherboards.

Windoze is unstable enough it doesn't needs help crashing it can do that by itself.

That is the single biggest reason huge multinationals and big and small corporations buy Intel CPU’s and Chipsets and of course Intel motherboards.

By the way I’m no fan of Intel integrated graphics at all, they are and will probably be other crap for years to come or till the end of the world; that’s why I always buy and sell only PC’s/Notebooks with ATi Graphics.

As a side note I’ve used Nvidia Chipsets and Graphics years ago, but got burned more than once (more like hundreds of times) by stability problems, crashes and complete failures, so they are dead to me.