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China counterattacks US in Google hacking row
IN ROUND TWO of what Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer labelled merely a "Google problem", the Chinese government said it had nothing to do with the Google hacking attacks reported last week.
According to the Associated Press this morning, a spokesman for China's Ministry of Industry claimed that, not only did the Chinese government have nothing to do with the attacks, but its anti-hacking policy was transparent and consistent. "Any accusation that the Chinese government participated in cyber attacks, either in an explicit or indirect way, is groundless and aims to discredit China," he said.
China's official news agency Xinhua went so far as to paint China as a victim, rather than a perpetrator, of hacking. It quoted the spokesman as saying, "China is the biggest victim country of hacking as its Internet has long been facing severe threats of hacker and online virus attacks." It also presented some statistics to back up the Chinese government's protestations of victimhood, if not exactly innocence.
The People's Daily also went on to imply double standards, declaring that the US government has a policy of restrictive control on Internet use for American netizens while spouting freedom of use rhetoric for other countries.
While Google hasn't officially claimed the Chinese government was directly culpable, the insinuation is hanging in the air like a bad smell. China's rebuttal is an attempt to answer what the Chinese state newspaper called "information imperialism" from what it regards as an ever more interventionist US government.
The Chinese reaction came in response to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's speech about Internet freedom last Thursday. Commenting indirectly on the Google hacking incident, she reportedly said, "In an interconnected world, an attack on one nation's networks can be an attack on all. Countries or individuals that engage in cyber attacks should face consequences and international condemnation."
We suspect that all this isn't nearly over yet. µ
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Just trying to be helpful, my friend, but after reading your post here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1184185
...I think that you have let your anger cloud your judgement. o_O
It is amazing that the US government has the gall to attack other countries like China for Internet political censorship, because the US itself is doing the same thing and even bolder. In my case, all the US media, including Google, CNN, youtube, yahoo, etc. imposed political censorship on my posts for these posts reveal the racial persecution on me by the US and Canadian governments. The US media not only delete my posts, cancel my accounts, but also even set up secret automatic filters to filter out any information about my human rights case. Please search for my story, my name is Wanxia Liao. My site: wliao(.)150m(.)com
: http://www.wliao.150m.com/, and http://wanxialiao.wordpress.com/
"obnoxious enough to call itself the United States of America"
The United States of America is more "obnoxious", than *Great* Britain?
IMHO, it's wrong to categorize ANY group of people, but with racism and sexism now off the table, I guess certain people just have to have some group to jab with the pointy stick, huh? =(
Nothing against the chinese people. Against the government yes.
Most US products are made in china, and maybe that has something to do with lack of jobs here. I will support my fellow country man before contributing to a country with worse leaders than our own. Although our corrupt politicians are getting more bold, down right asking the supreme court to allow them to be bribed with more money from corporations now, sigh,,
I want to give my neighbors the jobs Bill Clinton gave the Chinese by messing up the trade agreements for a little pocket change for himself.
@drphilngood: It's pretty hard to come up with a good demonym for a country obnoxious enough to call itself the United States of America instead of coming up with an actual name. Unitedstatesmen? I think I'll stick with American.
Always good to see all these anti-China comments. Maybe one day you Americans will decide to get a passport and travel to a country that speaks another language with a different culture. I know it's hard for people who are xenophobic even to their neighbours to the north with as similar a culture as there could possibly be.
Maybe if you do that you'll realize that the Western way of doing things doesn't work everywhere else.
@FreeInfo: Not only is it a bad idea for the two most powerful countries in the world to go to war. Not only would that destabilize the world. Not only would every extremist in the world take the opportunity while the two largest world police are occupied. Not only would it probably end in a nuclear destruction of the entire globe. Not only is war the worst possible way to resolve any matter. But in the two wars that Chinese troops and American troops have met, the Americans have lost.
"You must be one of those fat Americans with zero intelligence to issue such comment."
North "American" or South "American", old wise one? :p
What do all you guys have against the Chinese anyway? I have quite a few friends who live there who are really decent people. Think I prefer their company to the likes of some of you spiteful folks!
Don't like oppressive governments?
Then stop giving them your money! Try not to buy anything made in China, it's very difficult. I do my best to avoid anything made in china. Down side, things cost more, on the bright side, you get better products.
Google's defiance of China's censorship mandate illustrates the power of corporate social responsibility initiatives to influence and reshape the repressive policies of authoritarian regimes. Secretary Clinton’s recent remarks about the” information curtain” dividing the world, reminded me of the apartheid era where much greater injustice and unspeakable acts against humanity were challenged and ultimately overcome through the use of corporate codes of conduct.
Given the success of codes of conduct in ending apartheid, we should look at applying the same principles to lift the information curtain China and in other repressive countries.
This was the subject of an article on the International Business Law Advisor---The Great Firewall of China: How Lessons from the Apartheid Era Can Lift the Information Curtain www.intlbusinesslaw.com
the biggest hope (mistake) during helping “tiger” to create technological and manufacturing muscles was a china will drop communist ideology and will follow west on human rights and liberties development. instead ccp gained power and we see china’s economy continues to grow at amazing 10% rate when the rest of developed nations go down. the only way to keep west’s economies alive without breaking trading ties to china is to copy chinese totalitarian governance methods and start to suppressing own people. but sounds like west decided to cut ties to china instead. stay tuned.
You must be one of those fat Americans with zero intelligence to issue such comment.
"Why don't we just declare war on the Chinese? When they refused to accept the principle of free trade on opium, the British declare war on them and put them down for one hundred years. It is high time we do it now and make them understand that the free flow of information is above everything!"
Anyhoo, this flap is still muddling along and I'm betting that the true goal is to "regulate" all of "teh internets". Don't see the connection yet, but you can't be too cynical these days.
Anyhoo, this flap is muddling along, but I'm betting the true goal is to "regulate" all of "teh internets". Don't see how they get there from here, but you can't be too cynical these days.
It's time you guys get a grip on reality. China is now the biggest MARKET for most industrial and consumer goods (it just became the biggest market for cars last year and has been the biggest market for DVDs, TVs, etc for a while now), as well as the biggest PRODUCER of those consumer goods. Its economy will pass the US in a decade or so, and probably become several times larger after that. China OWNS the US, and don't you forget it.
There are restrictive controls on my internet use? Who knew???
I better stop trashing our governement and downloading chinese porn!
"Countries or individuals that engage in cyber attacks should face consequences and international condemnation."
Is that the same thing as military officers who give orders contrary to the Charter of Human Rights should be pursued and judged, whatever country they are from ?
Except that the US never signed that treaty and refuses to acknowledge it.
Oops.
Yeah, just like their treatment of Tien'anmen square protests.
Is this a hip new techy word?
Why don't we just declare war on the Chinese? When they refused to accept the principle of free trade on opium, the British declare war on them and put them down for one hundred years. It is high time we do it now and make them understand that the free flow of information is above everything!
From the onset, China was not interested in the west's vision of the internet. Now they are trying to use their perceived muscle to change it into what they think it should be. Cut China out of the internet completely since it was NEVER the product THEY wanted. Let them build their own domestic internet, controlling every word that crosses it and suffocating themselves in the process.
The West doesn't need China's participation in the internet, China needs the internet if it plans on being a world player. But there is only one internet, and China must learn to play by the rules if it wants to participate.