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Brits will give the entertainment industry millions

Thanks Gordon
Tue Dec 29 2009, 10:30

THE CASH STRAPPED British Government plans to make the public give the entertainment industry £500 million.

According to the Times, the cash will be used to disconnect subscribers from broadband if the entertainment industry thinks they have been infringing copyrights.

The "three strikes and you're out" Digital Economy Bill, for which the entertainment industry has been lobbying hard, will leave consumers with a bill for £500 million. This is the projected cost of forcing ISPS to send warning letters to anyone accused of swapping copyrighted material illegally, and to suspend or slow the connections of those so accused who refuse to stop.

ISPs say that such interference with their customers' connections would add £25 a year to a broadband subscription. British ministers say that the cost of the initial letter-writing campaign, estimated at an extra £1.40 per subscription, will lead to 40,000 households giving up their Internet connections.

However assessments published alongside the Bill predict that the measures will generate £1.7 billion in extra sales for the music and film industries over the next ten years, as well as recovery of £350 million by the Government in extra VAT.

This is not a bad investment return for £500 million although it will be the music and film industries that profit at the country's net expense.

There is little support in Parliament for such a move being banned. Ministers will just put their increased ISP charges on their expenses, along with their second houses and bell towers.

But Charles Dunstone, chief executive of Carphone Warehouse, whose subsidiary is the largest UK ISP Talktalk, points out that it is unfair that broadband consumers should have to bail out the music and film companies. "If they really think that it's worth spending vast sums of money on these measures then they should be footing the bill; not the consumer," he told the Times.

British Telecom also said that the plans represented "collective punishment that goes against natural justice." John Petter, managing director of BT Retail's consumer division, said, "Put yourself in the shoes of a small businessman who has a rogue member of staff. Your Internet access could get cut off because of the actions of one individual. It really feels like the UK is out on a limb with these proposals compared to the rest of the world."

The Digital Economy Bill is being rushed through Parliament before the general election next year. µ

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008Zulu - $500m for Britain.. too late

Too late, Most of the UK is owned by France including Nuclear Power stations, energy companies, trains etc.
Apart from this our sport is owned by Russians and Middle Eastern countries.

We don't mine anything, don't produce a lot of agri products, we don't manufacture much of anything anymore, but we do "bank", which is a lot of typing on keyboards, and looking at screens pointlessly, and we burger flip, and that's about it.

To be honest, at $500m, you'd be being robbed.

The government and the media corps are deluding themselves if they think they'll get any _more_ money out of the British public, especially with the current "output" of Hollywood. It's pretty chronic, really for about the last year. I can see people just turning off their broadband.

posted by : Jeff Davies, 04 January 2010 Complain about this comment
@Regulas

Uh huh, but November is coming and as of today it's two days closer.

posted by : Doug Glass, 02 January 2010 Complain about this comment
@ GS,

There is no mention of the term 'Nil in void' in that link you provided.

Glad you pointed this out GS

Some browsers and servers will not grant you direct access to the document in question from the link I provided.

This link via tiny should (via Fire Fox browser) allow you access: http://tinyurl.com/yd3rp32

If you still cannot access the document see the copy from my own site:
http://www.dorsetvisualguide.co.uk/law.htm

Whilst I do admit the term null and void is the common law phrase. I have been using the old legal term nil in void for many years and not one person has queried this so thanks for challenging me on the subject.

Kind regards Carl Barron

posted by : Carl Barron, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
They are already doing it for free...

"and to suspend or slow the connections"

they seem to manage to do that quite well at the moment anyway....

posted by : angy-p, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
@Carl Barron

I've met people with tunnel vision before, but you really take the biscuit...

1. There is no mention of the term 'Nil in void' in that link you provided.

2. Google 'Nil in Void' and how many hits do you get? 12... And 9 of those are written by yourself. You clearly like the term, even though it's meaningless.

3. Google 'Null and Void' and how many hits do you get? 1,960,000. The first page of results are full of definitions of the term. Perhaps you should read them before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

How can anyone take your quasi-legal pronouncements seriously when you can't even use the term 'null and void' correctly?

posted by : GS, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Socialists work for capitalists

Don't you see the positive side of it, "regulas"?

posted by : Richard, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Socialists work for capitalists

Don't you see the positive side of it, "regulas"?

posted by : Richard, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
'Porkies'

Typical Yank,they simply can't see the truth,if it smacked them in the face.
This money is going to 'BUSINESS',it is customers, who are paying that money over.
It is government that is appropiating, by STEALING, customers money from OUR pockets & giving it to another business.
I think you Yanks call it, 'PORK BARREL POLITICS'.
We are the 'suckers' that will end up paying in the short term,however, this government is dying on it's feet & the 'last rites' will soon be read for it.

posted by : Anon, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Government for the Company

The correct term is Corporatocracy.

posted by : viewwin, 30 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Americans

@Regulas.

I see we have another American who doesn't understand the meaning of the word: 'Socialist'. I implore you to pick up a dictionary, or just use Google/Wikipedea.

Just spending tax payers money on crap does not make you a socialist.

Peter Mandelson is not a socialist. He is bending over for the 'media' industry; this is all about satisfying his big business buddies.

posted by : John Thomas, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Government for sale?

Wow, all it takes is half a billion and you can buy the British government? Lol, wouldn't it be funny if the American government bought England right out from under them. This is would be like the American civil war, but in reverse.

posted by : 008Zulu, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
@ GS,

Re:
Are you sure you don't mean 'Null and Void'?

Reply:
‘Nil in Void’ is the correct legal term, see proof document here:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3308490

Signed Carl Barron Chairman of agpcuk

posted by : Carl Barron, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
@Carl Barron

Are you sure you don't mean 'Null and Void'?

The phrase 'Nil In Void' essentially means 'nothing in the space'. Unless you're referring to the space between your ears, of course...

posted by : GS, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Mandy’s Meddling’s legally flawed

Mandy’s Meddling’s will cost us all a lot more than £500 million.

If Mandy gets his bill into Law to enable Copyright material to be re-written under ‘Section 17’ of this proposed act. Once the Law is in force all Copyright Material will be deemed as ‘Legally Compromised’, hence made Nil in Void and as Copyright is matched to the Patent the Patent is also ‘Legally Compromised’ made Nil in Void.

I’m sure Bill Gates (for one) will be chuffed to bits when he finds this out. One of the biggest losers would be the Drug companies as all their products for sale or distributed in the UK during the time that law is in effect deems their rights Nil in Void.

Most all documents used in the transfer process of the Stock Markets are Copyright Protected so these to will be deemed as ‘Nil in Void, legally worthless. The far ranging effects of Mandy’s meddling will cause havoc as Share Prices are lost and Patents and Copyright’s are lost. Even currency is Copyright Protected hence it also would become ‘Nil in Void’ worthless, non-legal tender.

Hence Mandy’s so-called ‘Digital Rights Act/ Digital Economy Bill’ is legally seriously flawed.

Why will Mandy’s law makes all Copyright material ‘Legally Compromised’ made Nil in Void you ask?

Click on link to read legal info and supporting links: http://carl-agpcuk.livejournal.com/

Signed Carl Barron Chairman of agpcuk

Digital Economy Bill sparks peers' protest
http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/32849/Digital-Economy-Bill-sparks-peers-protest

posted by : Carl Barron, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Idiots

Sounds to me like you British have a bunch of Socialist self righteous buffoons in government just like we do in the USA.

posted by : Regulas, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
I loved it when

Nominet told Mandy he can stick his proposed control over our UK domains up his tail pipe! (Tho Nominet said it in a more diplomatic fashion)

This is just another example of the Gov's misguided attempt to "please" the people. Good luck on election day, Im gonna vote for a stupid nobody party!

posted by : Alex, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
This shows how easy it is to play with a clueless government

Once again the government falls for numbers. 1.7 billion in extra sales? My ar**. Most people who download, won't buy it if the option of free downloading is taken away.
What will happen is one person buys the CD/DVD, copies it and shares it with at least 20 people. Just like it used to be done before the internet with cassette tapes.

Further, as long as the government does not enforce protection of wireless connections, many innocent people will be convicted of something they did not do.

posted by : Richard, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
You What?

How about a resounding "Fuck Off" to the Mafia^WMedia Mogols.

Cant buy your new ferrai? Boo fucking hoo. Start selling at reasonable prices and stop treating your consumers like theives and you might just survive.

posted by : Mercyground, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
Peanuts

£500 million? How come the entertainment industry gets palmed off with less than a thousandth of the money the banks got?

posted by : Tom Welsh, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
there's no sucker like an old sucker...

Mandy has fallen for this one hook line and sinker. He will spend millions, but he will never stop pirates. It is a waste of taxpayers money. The man is a fool. Korea must be rubbing their hands in glee. All it will do is infringe on the privacy of the harmless and do nothing to raise revenue to prop up the obsolete music industry business model. Time someone in government got IT. before they break the internet.

posted by : cyberdoyle, 29 December 2009 Complain about this comment
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