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3D TV gets closer
SKY TELEVISION will blast 3D football into your living room by 2010, according to reports.
Yes, if the thought of having Wayne Rooney and gang looming out at you in full 3D doesn't fill you with dread, you should start preparing to watch them in all their, almost like the real thing, glory. And by preparing we mean going out and getting yourself a 3D television.
Today the firm said that it would initially show matches from the Premiership on the service, so home viewers will have the delightful prospect of seeing their favourite player running out for a throw in just by the side of their sleeping dog.
Here at the Inq, we spent a lot of last week doing things like taping 3D specs to the front of our real spectacles just to watch Jaws 3D on Channel 4. Given that the experience rated somewhere down on the level of watching Mr MacBlurr in a fight against Swimmy the thingy, we can't say the prospect of any further such experiences fills us with anything but dread.
And we haven't even mentioned the fact that Sky has already broadcast a 3D concert featuring aural offenders Keane, which any sensible person would call an act of madness - a bit like Henry Ford showing off his motorcar by driving it through a cluster of passersby.
In fact, we can't help but think that any real football fan would prefer to watch their team in real time 3D - that is, in person - as opposed to plonking down on the sofa wearing something on their face that resembles Star Trek sunglasses.
But nobody asked us. µ
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If they want 3D TV to survive and thrive we will have to "NOT" were "STUPID" special 3D glasses. Just turn on the TV and watch in 3D. If you have glasses there will be no standard and all the different movie makers will do things different.
For the Sky 3D TV, you will need to wear Polarised glasses, not the coloured ones that C4 used for their 3D TV week.
You also need a TV with Polarising screen in front of it, 100Hz, as well.
- so the pictures will be full colour, and not flickery
- so it should be quite pleasant & realistic.
Also, the idea is that we all buy 'cool'-looking 3d glasses, and not have to use the cardboard ones!
- that way we shouldn't feel like total nerds watching it....
No way to do it without glasses, I'm afraid.
There is a standard. It's 3D DLP. High end projectors and DLP TVs have this built in. Itt is very high quality, 0 flicker, and almost no ghosting - the best tech there is to date.
Please don't confuse this with the red blue flasses crap from the 70s.
Thousands of us have been gaming in real virtual reality 3D for a decade now. check out www.mtbs3d.com
Once you have played in Stereo3D, there is no going back to flat land ;-)
@Phil - It can be done without glasses - See Phillips WOW3D Tv's.. Not that I'm advocating that implentation because I don't like it (requires viewer to be sitting in one of n 'sweet spots' (currently n=~9 I think)
You also DON'T need 100Hz. I've got an LG 3D set here at work, and they way they are doing it is displaying left and right eye images on concentrically polarized odd and even horizontal lines. This results in half resolution, BUT ONLY for areas that are being seperated heavily. The non separated images will have psuedo full resolution because right and left eye half resolutions get displayed horizontally aligned to each other. Most won't notice the difference, but some will.
Polarized screens are not a requirement if the television is capable of accepting and displaying 120Hz + signals. This would, however, require synchronized shutter glasses.
The only 'good' thing about all of this is that the transmitted signals sky will be using (PROBABLY half horizontal (or vertical) resolution images are compatible with existing 1080p60hz transmission networks, (because 3d images will be packed into 1080p60Hz 'frames') and display devices. The TV's will be made to accept one of n (as of right now n-4- top/bottom, left/right, odd/even (forblecch 30hz effective), checkerboard).
As for the glasses, some of the 'cool' talk I've heard of applies specifically to perscription lens/contact lens users who can request to have left and right eye corrections concentrically polarized, negating the need for 'goofy' glasses :)
@McNasty - I agree, I like 3D DLP that can accept 120Hz in and display 120Hz.
Sky should get back to trying to provide a HD service and not the utter low-res mess they currently provide.
3D is simply not going to sell due to stupid glasses. Add in that something close to (well according to Google and Wiki so probably miles off) 30% of the UK population wears glasses, thats 30% of the market who simply can't use this technology at all!
Throw in the fact it's going to be insanely expensive, need new hardware, and it's a non existing market.
Sky should be working on getting a proper Full HD service running without the awful compression thats currently used. Also making it cover most the channels not the utter disaster where we currently have a HD channel looking worse than a normal channel after a modern HD tv upscales it.
Well that's two more dimensions than most of the player have, I guess they fix that with some kind of software before it gets broadcast.
fighting!
Of course glasses are needed. Or, sitting in exact sweet spots, but no thanks. I select glasses. Polarized, of course, no blinking.
I am short-sighted (very) and wear glasses. I can use anaglyph glasses (red/green, red/blue, red/cyan, yellow/blue colorcode) just fine. And I don't see any reason why LCD shutter glasses wouldn't work either.