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Microsoft denies that Windows 7 has a back door

The Vole insists the back door is firmly sealed
Friday, 20 November 2009, 14:00

A MICROSOFT SPOKESVOLE has denied fears that the US National Security Agency (NSA) placed surveillance technology into Windows 7.

"Microsoft has not and will not put 'backdoors' into Windows," a company spokeswoman said in a statement to Computerworld.

A NSA official told a Senate subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security on Monday that it had worked with the Vole during its creation of Windows 7 "to enhance Microsoft's operating system security."

The worry is that if the NSA was involved with the development of Windows 7 it might have put "backdoors" into Microsoft's code that would help it track users and intercept users' communications.

Since no one outside Microsoft except a few secretive government agencies and very large corporate customers can review its Windows 7 source code, most people simply have to take the Vole's word that there are no intentionally built-in security holes in it.

The executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), Marc Rotenberg said that he was concerned that Microsoft might not have been able to turn the agency's assistance down, as the US federal government is an important customer.

He questioned whether the NSA should participate in OS development at all. "The key problem is that NSA has a dual mission, COMPUSEC, computer security, now called cyber security, and SIGINT, signals intelligence, in other words surveillance," Rotenberg said in an email.

But Microsoft claims that there is no cause for concern. The spokeswoman went on to say that the NSA's contribution was purely in conjunction with the Security Compliance Management Toolkit, which was rolled out last month.

Well that's alright then. µ

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Yeah right!

I find it very hard to imagine that the NSA would help MS in a way it would make it harder for them to get access to a computer.
They would at least made sure that the existing MS backdoors stay open.

Ans it would be stupid of MS to say there is a backdoor if they know that no one can prove it.

posted by : Kedas, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Doesn't matter.

I have kept a deep suspicion of Microsoft and Bill Gates since they got off so easily on appeal after their convictions in a lower court.

Backdoor or not there is really no privacy for anyone with Internet access.

I still sleep well at night because other than legitimate love relations, not a crime so no agency would ever care, I have nothing to hide from anyone.

posted by : stalin, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Nothing to hide

Stalin, just because I don't have anything to hide doesn't mean that it's any of their business either. If it is their business, they can get a warrant.

posted by : Jim, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
"Nothing to hide,nothing to fear brigade

Stalin;
If you sleep well at night, you are deluding yourself,if you think that the 'Stasi' government in the UK doesn't worry about you.
That's the very reason it reads your email,records your telephone calls,snoops on your bank accounts,uses countless thousands of CCTV's,manned by the Queens constabulary,'loses' pewrsonal databanks,which are the state' responsibility,what is not lost it exports to the homeland security of the USA,wants you on a hospital database & wants all the english sheep like you to have ID cards & when that is accomplished, it wants to microchip every newborn infant.
The ONLY exemptions to the above, are the MILLIONS of ILLEGAL immigrants to this country & the those true blue vermin, the Windsors of Fuckingham Palace.

posted by : Anon, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Back Door?

Why have one when there is a doorman?

posted by : Tom, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
NSA was involved with the development of Windows 7

Not a "back door" but a "black door".
But I thought that they always had participated on the development; since Windows XP.

posted by : The user, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
LMAO @ "nothing to fear"

You people *really* need to get out more. And maybe read a history book or two.

Even assuming todays government is squeaky clean - an assumption I personally would never make - what about tomorrows?

What about the US government, since its *they* who will be spying on you, not your own?

What about the chinese or the russians when they crack the backdoors?

Fools.

posted by : Anonymous Coward, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
My point was:

Backdoor in the OS or not there is no privacy on the Internet. Can you trust your Anti Virus? Your Security Suite? Your Encryption? Your Browser? etc.....
None of us have privacy so it doesn't help to worry about it but it does help not to have anything to hide (at least not on our computers).

The Data is collected but without the courts to allow extreme misuse then the Data serves the agencies nothing.

When governments are in place who can completely circumvent the courts THEN we are in trouble but then it will be our own doing for not having stopped it in the first place.

No agency cares about who I slept with an hour ago. They don't care if I'm angry with my Aunte Meme either.......they might not like my Cuban Girlfriend but then again I wouldn't be stupid enough to speak about her on the Internet if I were a Yank (which I'm not).

posted by : stalin, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Seems to me

that I have heard similar denials before and the liars got retroactive immunity.

posted by : Lee Schneider, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
They play people off as fools.

Of course there is a back door there.
Ever hear of "Trusted Computing"?
Specifically TTP or "Trusted Third Party"?
Well if you haven't then do some research on it.
A set of back door keys can be issued to a trusted third party granting them entrance into any system.
Microsoft has been at this and working closely with American intelligence agencies on this since 2005 and even before.
And of course they will deny it because they don't want the general public knowing anything about it.
After all, it's no good if people aren't using it.

This is a link to some postings by Ellen Messmer of Network World, dating back to July 20, 1998 about the NSA involvement in software development.
http://jya.com/nsa-lsa.htm

And yet they claim that it's not true.
Like I have said before, all Microsoft does is lie about everything.

posted by : Dest, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
How can they deny a back door?

...when there are so many:

- side doors,
- top doors,
- bottom doors,
- front doors,

and countless "open windows" in all versions of Windows to keep hackers (and NSA agents) happy and contentedly/constantly invading the OS to the detriment of all Microsoft customers?

NTFS MFT stores every file location anyways, and "erased" data is easily recovered for inspection.

And, instead of meddling with a commercial product to allegedly improve the security of NSA systems, why not just modify/customize a version of Linux (something that allows them to actually know what is happening "under the hood").

The "land of the free" has turned into a misnomer, and lines like "I ain't no terrorist, I got nuthin to hide" just show how the foolish American public bought Bush's invasion of their privacy and freedom hook line and sinker. I didn't think Bush could read, but apparently someone read George Orwell aloud to him at one point or another. Hopefully Obama can/will stop this madness.

posted by : Jim Morrison, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
It's right next to the RIAA door...

Apparently the RIAA/MPAA also can access data on your nice shiny Windows computer, so I think there must be a collection of phone-home back doors that Microsoft sold to the highest bidders (in addition to cooperating with Big Media to incorporate constant DRM-scanning and non-compliance notifications (which may very well "phone home" to these bidders) into Vista and Windows 7.

Yes, Microsoft wants your money, but doesn't seem to respect any of their customers' rights to privacy, security, or freedom in exchange for this money.

posted by : Billy-bob, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
There has been a back door

ever since MS was let off the hook for being a monopolist when they were being sued by all those States and the FEDS. The secret deal was to give the FEDS a back door and we let you go, it's that simple.
This comment submitted using Linux

posted by : Regulas, 20 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Creamy Soft Center in Hard Candy Says Liar... Brooke Own Truth!

Looks like the big fat liars are getting a run for their money, oh, I'm sorry, I misspoke, they are getting a run with the public's money. The FAT liars keep drumming that “Change is Good”, funny, or not so funny really, since the Garden of Eden that ancient far most “Change” that didn't change since! The liar of them all, just had his knickers in a knot to introduce “Change” on the first TWO subject!?

A Terrible injustice similar to “Tanks for assuming my opinion on who really died for me and sending troops to their deaths “Here is the clincher:” “BEFORE I WAS EVER BORN!”

Later, that liar again said these words [nutshell] “For a [Change] why don't you let me make your follower[s] experience a living nightmare to prove MY point!” Again that word “Change”!

The back doors that fright, are nothing to the unsubtle name of the OS itself, where “windows” by name can equally be used to look in than to look out!

Just turn off your darn computer and don't go where lures will bait you. Works for me!

Nothing, and I mean nothing under human fingers will ever change!

posted by : Phil, 21 November 2009 Complain about this comment
And We All Know ...

... how truthful and reliable Microsoft's claims are.

For a directionally challenged corporation like Microsoft, this type denial is a confession pure and simple.

posted by : Doug Glass, 21 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Ah Ha

Sure it doesn't. How many different ways or services does it use to transfer information about your computer to Microsoft's Home servers wether it asks for your permission or not. Remember the update that came out a couple of years ago that told you it was going to update your computer anytime. just examples.

posted by : Uncle, 21 November 2009 Complain about this comment
O$X

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/29/stallman_withdraws_apple_backdoor_claim/

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/mac-osx-mistakes-and-malfeatures

posted by : Anti-DRMintosh, 22 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Buy Window$

... Doors included!

posted by : Salesman, 22 November 2009 Complain about this comment
BLAH

Backdoor or not windows is still the most supported gaming platform and thats ALL i use it for! Besides Its not like I care really... Mass virus or apocalypse of windows be damned! I have LiveCD's and I'm sure as Hell ( /prays) ISP's aren't stupid enough to use windows so yay!!!

posted by : PFFTt!,,, 22 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Its called WINDOWS.

It's called windows, people. What does that tell you?

In this hand I have a floppydisk with a little piece of code on it, that we'd like you to insert in the next version. In the other hand, I have a nasty big anti-trust suite, that I can make go away. Seems you need to make a decision, Mr Gates.

posted by : Mike Thompson, 22 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Conspiracy Theories are so Yesterday...

Nobody believe conspiracy theories any more. That's because 99.99% of them are bogus. Why would MS put a hole in Windows 7 anyway? Just to look dumb? They've got other ways to do that. Gees.

posted by : Narg, 23 November 2009 Complain about this comment
@ doug glass

Agreed, anyone who believes a denial by a large multinational or a government deserves their own fate.

Hopefully they learned from the whole WinXP NSAKEY debacle and didn't label it this time.

posted by : m, 23 November 2009 Complain about this comment
More reasons to switch to linux

Good job NSA! more reasons to regular folks to switch to Ubuntu or other linux distribution.

posted by : martin, 23 November 2009 Complain about this comment
@PFFTt!

It's true games are best on windows. You wanna best protection :
Peerblock (source code available)
Truecrypt for file based containers
Diskcrypt for partitions (source code available)
Firefox (self compiled or public mod)
Thor network for browsing

Anyone with other ideas ???

posted by : LordEkim, 23 November 2009 Complain about this comment
For those with a long memory this is nothing new

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

posted by : Barmy, 24 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Not only that, but

Microsoft also denies Windows 7 increases the size of your sexual organs and makes you luckier at picking winning lottery numbers. Go ahead, ask them. They'll deny it, EXACTLY like they deny this!

posted by : Joe, 24 November 2009 Complain about this comment
Yeah right!!!

There is no backdoor, but the frontdoor is wide open for years now... ;-)

posted by : John Doe, 24 November 2009 Complain about this comment
use linux

Do you hate Windows's backdoors? Then just compile your own linux distro using the source codes... as simple as that.

posted by : fdjkl, 24 November 2009 Complain about this comment
why would Ms do that

it would be much easer to Put one in a "Hot FIX" under the headding Keep u r Pc More Secure , and let users Down load it them Self's

posted by : MysticChicken, 24 November 2009 Complain about this comment
The backdoor

No need for a conspiracy theory, really. If you want to be found, go online.

Where it might be scary is if such a backdoor simply key-captures, timestamps w IP and uploads. It would be like Windows 7 introduced cloud computing under everyone's collective nose... the entire cloud of computers all sitting within NSA confines.

Oh, stop thinking you were free...

posted by : Rafael, 27 November 2009 Complain about this comment
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