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UK faces IT brain drain
ACCORDING TO a survey from the IT Job Board, many UK tech workers are considering setting sail for sunnier climes and better paid work.
The company, which is an online recruitment business, warned that the UK was risking a 'brain drain', whereupon workers could find themselves pushed out of work because of the recession and would leave the UK in favour of new opportunities.
Issues high on the worry list for these workers are offshoring, 39 per cent fingered this as a reason, 28 per cent said contract rate reductions, and 27 per cent cited 'concern over long-term career prospects'. Jobs most likely to be affected according to the opinions of the respondents were developer and programmer roles, the survey revealed.
The IT Job Board found that 80 per cent of workers were so concerned about the economic downturn that they were considering relocation. Sixty-nine percent of them fancied Australia, and 59 per cent the USA. Just under 60 per cent were thinking about going away for five years or more. Don't forget to cancel the milk.
Jamie Bowler, head of marketing at The IT Job Board, said, “The UK IT sector cannot afford to lose key individuals with specific technical knowledge and skills, both during the recession, and as we approach a possible upturn. The responsibility lies with employers to maintain competitive rates, and to offer attractive career opportunities to staff with core employees. Only then can we work towards avoiding brain drain in the UK IT sector.” µ
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it wont just be the money, theres also the 2-tier legal system (1 for rich, 1 for poor), corrupt thieving politicians in power that avoid prosecution and the overpricing of goods that cost far less in other countries.
can anyone think of any other reasons? there must be many more
...the almost mandatory increase of fuel tax, with no viable alternatives?
Or the inability of HMRC to pull their fingers out?
What about the fact that corporations see us as an easy target as we can't just nip across the border and buy it from a neighbouring country?
Also...
Internet speeds?
House prices?
Crap roads?
Too many STUPID people in power?
...
The list can go on...
Why on earth would they come to Australia? IT employers here can't get rid of people quick enough, and you could staff a dozen startups just by walking to the nearest taxi rank.
I left the UK 2 years ago after a career in IT for 18 years (2 years as a programmer with British Gas, 5 years games programming and 11 years in finance). I left for the following reasons:
Corrupt politicians - in particular, I detest the current corrupt nuLabour regime. Seriously, do any of them ever tell any truths?
Too much EU interference from even more corrupt politicians.
Rising violent crime backed up by ridiculous criminal rights (connected to EU interference point above)
Scientists not being treated seriously. A Cambridge university lecturer of mine in mathematics was on 18k a year just 10 years ago - no wonder all of the best British talent leaves the country!
Please, do tell, where did you move that does not have corrupt politicians? Mars?
Leave that fascist socialist mess and come to India. We have all the jobs now. Resistance is futile.
LoL. You are correct of course implying that wherever you go there are corrupt career politicians. I hated the government of John Major, but the current shower were unbearable. Too many Brits seemed to take their eye off the ball, concentrating too much on the paper wealth of the property price bubble.
I'll give you a clue as to the country where I now live. Women rape men here (I kid you not!), and if you are an Englishman or American man the women find you hot! Importantly, they are good lookers too...
Thailand?
Philippines?
China?
Please do tell. I'm contemplating such a move myself. We have a US-born contractor here for a few weeks who now is a permanent resident in the Philippines and he loves it. He has a Filipina wife half his age.
Sounds like Scandinavia to me ;-)
Ah. Cut the bullshit then and say you moved to get laid. As good a reason as any, just don't claim corrupt government interference is the reason. The only government that isn't corrupt or doesn't interfere too much is no government, and that's not working out too well for Somalia, is it?
"He has a Filipina wife half his age."
and soon, the entire family of the wife will move in, then other relatives, too :)
How does this work? The captains of industry sack large numbers of skilled IT people and then some obscure body pops up and says the country can't afford to lose them. If that were true they wouldn't be standing in the dole queue. Or perhaps they could work for nothing, just the love of their country.
Don't expect much from OZ. The powers that be are just as stupid here, or possibly even worse.
Sixty-nine percent of them fancied Australia, and 59 per cent the USA.
mate....
Calm yourself. Just imagine it as a Venn diagram - look, it's easy: 69% fancied Australia, and 59% fancied the States. However, you could also conclude that from those figures alone, 28% gave an either-or/both answer.
Personally, I left Britain because I got sick of dealing with idiots every place I went in the UK. The people in power aren't just content with keeping their stupidity to themselves, but insist on sharing it with everyone (maybe to "enrich" our lives? Dunno. I would say it's about as "enriching" as rolling around in camel dung, but at least camel dung can also be used as fertiliser - or, in a pinch, dried, as fuel for a cigarette lighter.)
Then there's the fact that there is no law and order anymore, and the only people who actually benefit from the police and their labyrinthine rules and regulations, are the criminals. Great idea, folks. I got sick of reading the Daily Mail and thinking "Why am I paying 50k in taxes this year to this shower, when they're just pissing it up a wall?" - now I read the Daily Mail and think "Thank goodness Mrs. Merkel is getting my taxes. They're building a new underground tram line here in Duesseldorf, I can drive as fast as I want on the autobahn - and I now have 25Mb broadband that actually *is* 25Mb, and not 5Mb sold as a 25Mb package."
(Consumer law? Gotta love it when your watchdogs have teeth - and that's a whole other issue I could spend hours writing about, so let's not even go there, eh?)
Put simply, it boils down to one simple thing: Quality of life. I enjoy a far better quality of life here in Deutschland, for less money than I would be paying in Britain. Actually, as far as salaries go, pay tends to be higher here, so if you can meet the requirements of working over here, you're golden. Literally. If it means I have to learn strange words like schweinefleisch and geschmacksverstaerker, then so be it.
Last one out, turn out the lights, okay? After all, we're the ones supplying your electricity...
It must be Thailand. There are plenty of "women" over there with the tools necessary for raping.
...could be solved by getting rid of BAE Systems.
If we got rid of the few thousand folks working in that huge soaker of tens of billions of tax payers money for no real benefit/results. Then there might be more work and cash around for the rest of us.
Mr. Meow, I think you'd have a lot of fun and joy with a Siamese "Mrs. Meow"...
Is that a proposition, Greg?
No.
A pun.
A proposal.
But not a proposition, thank you very much.
Agreed - IT Managers are frustrated and bored of the daily grind. Have you tried playing IT Manager III: Unseen Forces: http://itmanager3.intel.com/en-gb/default.aspx?iid=ITMG_IgniteSeed_UK_Inquirer. It's a game that gets what I go through every day...