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HP sticks SSDs into Windows 7 machines
MAKER OF EXPENSIVE printer ink, HP has decided to bung SSD drives into its upcoming Windows 7 machines. HP's big idea seems to be that they will speed up boot times.
According to Computerworld, the 64GB SSD on the HP Compaq 6005 Pro will be used to run Windows and frequently accessed applications.
The system will also have a larger conventional hard disk drive connected via SATA interface for storing data and documents. HP said it is calling the SSD lashup Rapid Drive and it will cost about $200 more.
This means that the AMD-based 6005 Pro with Rapid Drive will set you back $774, while without it the same machine will cost $550.
HP promised that users would see a difference in their startup times, but given that Windows 7 is pretty quick on booting up anyway it seems hard to see how users will ascribe the speed increase to the SSD.
The Rapid Drive uses the Samsung PM800 SSD. It can read data sequentially at a maximum rate of just over 225 MB per second and can write data sequentially at 160 MB per second, HP said.
It is not the first time we have seen SSDs used this way. Samsung and Seagate have both stuck hybrid drives into their notebooks. They didn't make such a great impression because most punters put their laptops into sleep mode and hardly ever reboot them. µ
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Have you even followed anything regarding SSDs? Faster boottimes are one of the lesser advantages, completely missing the point
Read up on it, try starting here:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=20
And oh yeah, a samsung is a second rate drive compared to indilinx/intel
This ain't hard, what you do is install windows on the SSD, then install the big drive and load up a bartPE disk (I use UBCD), mount the big drive as 3 differant partitions, one under "Users", one under "UserData" and one under "Program Files (x86).
What this means is lightning fast booting and 64bit apps, and room to stretch your legs so far as 32bit apps (my Steam folder just broke the 300GB mark, yay me) and user docs go.
Oh and don't forget to disable shadow volumes/system recovery and throw the swap file onto one of the HDD.
There is more to it than what I said, of course, read up on slizone forums (check the raid corner) for the full how-to :P
Damage.Inc
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=19
why samsung is not the best choice, just the page before the other quoted one really
Bad idea. Boot time is not that great of importance.A better video card, another huge hdd or even buying snow leopard would be a better investment rather take a few seconds off the boot time.
I hope other companies will follow on that trend.
@scott: snow leopard on a hp pc? right...no
also boot time is as important as good performence for games and such. SSDs will also speed up game loading time.. texture loading into memory goes alot faster now.
SSDs are what computer needed for many years. Normal hdds are slowing down a computer... and alot too... it's the slowest part of the pc.. EVEN with a SSD in it.
"The Rapid Drive uses the Samsung PM800 SSD."
Instant FAIL.
The point of a manufacturer adding a SSD drive is not to increase boot times, as you have mentioned, nor it it to accomplish any of the things mentioned in your link. In fact, I haven't bothered reading what you linked because I know it will be a waste of time.
It is to help the manufacturer be more profitable. That is the only reason, and the only advantage, to having a SDD and a mechanical HDD in a portable computer, or even in a desktop. If you're building servers then it's a different story-sometimes... :)
Faster boot times are a nice plus, but that's hardly the primary reason one should get an SSD drive. Applications that open instantly are the most compelling reason for an SSD. Even non-technical end-users appreciate the speed increase. An SSD based laptop / PC 'feels' significantly faster. I just deployed an SSD based laptop yesterday and the first question was, "But how fast does Acrobat open?" the answer? It was damn near instantaneous and the response was a simple, "Wow!"
Actually, I don't know a single person who uses sleep mode on their laptops. Especially after it is a year or two old the batteries won't hold a charge long enough to get home.
BTW, my office has over 25 laptops.
Have you used your cpu/memory gadget? If it has memroy at stable 20%, less memory is rapidly available, it has to be nudged up. Yet, if memory hasn't been Used & reused it might have 80% in use constantly. That percentage will boot Much Faster.
Try few trojans or Root Kits to help Slow Your Boot down. Philapdelphia Inquirer Gives Them Away for FREE. It Takes Recovery Shot To get Beyond that Mess.
theINQUIRERS, Where Do You Boot Them.
1.) Nuts
2.)Behinder.3)LOL EveryWhere.
This thing with boot time, I go downstairs, turn on the machine, go make a coffee, cleanup my desk, say hello to the dog, but I sure as heck don't sit there watching my computer load up, how asinine.
HP is starting the switch from HDrives to SSD's period. The switch over is happening.
wooo... a whole 64gb!
think what you could do with all that MASSIVE storage!
and i bet it is really inexpensive too!
ahem *$%llocks* ahem
Learn to read my friend:
Quoting nick:
"According to Computerworld, the 64GB SSD on the HP Compaq 6005 Pro will be used to run Windows and frequently accessed applications.
The system will also have a larger conventional hard disk drive connected via SATA interface for storing data and documents. "
ssd is only used for your os and frequently runned apps...
your music/videos/songs acan stay on a second hard drive because they take space and don't need any performence... since they don't use much ressources.
ssd are a very good thing, if used right...