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Core i5, i7 Lynnfields launch
LYNNFIELD IS HERE, in both i5 and i7 flavours and Intel seems to be packing a world of pain for AMD. Reviews around the web are painting a rather bleak picture for Chimpzilla.
Just for reference, here is what they look like:
Core i5 – 750, 2.66GHz, 4 cores, 4x256KB/8MB Cache, 2.5GT/s DMI, LGA 1156, 95W TDP $196.00
Core i7 – 860, 2.80GHz, 4 cores, 2 threads per core, 4x256KB /8MB Cache, 2.5GT/s DMI, LGA 1156, 95W TDP $284.00
Core i7 – 870, 2.93GHz, 4 cores, 2 threads per core, 4x256KB /8MB Cache, 2.5GT/s DMI, LGA 1156, 95W TDP $562.00
Intel’s new mainstream offerings - all three of them - manage to outperform AMD’s flagship Phenom II X4 965BE, overclocking included. As we see it, Intel has AMD pinned down in the budget/low-end right now, with little chance for Chimpzilla to move upwards. Core i3 (Clarkdale) might create further trouble for AMD soon.
At $199 or €175 or £159, the Core i5 750 undercuts the Phenom II X4 965BE by about $50 or €40 or £20 (a sharper contrast outside the UK), while keeping up with or exceeding its performance. The Core i7 860 and 870 outperform the Core i7 920 for the most part, where memory bandwidth isn’t at a premium, and will make great performance parts for deep-pocketed enthusiasts.
Fudzilla did a nice roundup of not only the new i5 and i7s but also the AMD side of things and paints a very clear picture of what’s going on. Here's a list of reviews we've found that are currently available:
Tom’s Hardware CPU tests, Gaming tests
... and in other reviews:
Tom’s Hardware Emporium has been busy rounding up all the newest suspects in the SSD race. Quite a few “new” brands, and some 2nd tier ones that don’t have the newest microcontrollers... anyway, a good read, as you can see the performance jump.
Driver Heaven tested the Sparkle GTX 285 2GB, a very quiet and powerful graphics card. The GTX 285 does show that you don’t need SLI or Crossfire for gaming performance, as the horsepower on this GPU seems to be able to deal with everything.
Guru of 3D couldn’t help but test the ASUS GeForce GTX 295 MARS edition graphics card. These are two GTX 285 slapped together, 4GB of GDDR3 bolted on and a $1000 price tag. Hilbert says it’s a little bit too much and too late, as DX11 is around the corner, we agree.
Hardware Canucks has a sneak preview of the XFX Black Edition 850W PSU. The custom PSU was tailored to match XFX’s looks and philosophy. It’s modular and highly efficient. We’ll keep an eye out for this PSU.
Ugly, yes. Functional, very. That’s how we’d sum up the Chieftec BL-01B Bravo L-type PC case with a VESA monitor mount. This is like soldering a VESA mount to the side of a mid-tower case, and weird as it may look, it works. Big Bruin has it.
Thrusted Reviews doesn’t usually test full desktop systems, but it’s gone off on a tangent and tested the PC Specialist Vortex i950 gaming PC. It’s a half-decent attempt at a full-blown gaming PC that’s marred by a few build choices. It does go at it like a bat out of hell, according to Ardjuna.
PC Perps has Western Digital’s latest hard-drives on test. The Western Dgiital 2TB Caviar Black and RE4 pack a ton of storage and performance, despite the SSD surge taking place. They do tend to get a bit hot, though. µ
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Wow. What have you been smoking ? Seems you have your eyes shut, fingers in your ears, repeating "LA LA LA LA LA LA..." You must be in a different universe.
See http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634
You got the wrong URL for the Anandtech article, it's http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634 for the review (the link posted is a Preview from May)
What happens when Intel do a process shrink and need another 4 speed bins above the 870, 975 models ?
PR bunnies make up new naming scheme that last's 2-4years.
What happens when the next tick-tock design comes out to replace Nehalem et. al. ?
You guessed it, new naming scheme.
Can Intel please get someone not in the PR department to make up the naming systems that can last 6yrs. The actual designers may be worse as they create model numbers which are 16 characters long :)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=556849 AMD Quad core. WR! Validated.
Intel WR Quad core.
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalercbb/core_i7_975/EVGA/6092.JPG WR! Not Validated. i7
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=692873 WR! For i5.
So intel is still behind. These cpus are not better at OCing, besides real men use real cores like AMD does. AMD FTW!
WR, hasn't been broken yet for quad cores from AMD, cheaper, better, smarter, real benchmark performance. Not blinded by fake cores from a copy chip. The only advantage of having dual threads per core is fake performance. In the real world AMD wins cus they use real cores real cpu's.
Intel had to copy off amd to get this far and they still have to cheat with massive caches and hyperthreading threading. But no they can't make anything original, they had to copy memory controllers, hyper transport, direct connect arks, and so forth to even compare to AMD. Plus their cores are optimized for benchmarks. Nice how you don't get realistic results from them.
When it comes down to it, AMD is for real men, and these intel cpus are just toys for little boys.
I can't understand why anybody would pay $1000 for a unlocked multiplier when from AMD you can get it for $240, or $150, or $100 or even $50 to get a unlocked multiplier for the same thing. And unnoticeable performance differences in the real world.
But this will prob never see the light of day since this site is payed by intel to mask the truth. But its worth a try. LOL
AMD must plan BIG price cuts for their quads. even with the AMD platform slightly cheaper, most would have to be nuts to go with them after this for a quad core in the face of the i5 750, and P55 SLI/crossfire dual compatability.
and interesting to note that game performance in windows seems to suffer from the multi threading feature on i7.
Performance on Linux seems to have room for improvement according to the review on www.phoronix.com
Kingston HyperX released high end gaming memory to go with the proc's, some videos here
HyperX Asus Core i5 LGA1156 Launch video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFvVztQo79o
HyperX Gigabyte Core i5 LGA1156 Launch video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF0BDzZquSs
I give up.
The intel CPU names could not possibly make any less sense. The i5 750, i7 860 and i7 870 are all faster than the i7 920?!? WTF? Do they just randomly draw the names out of a hat at intel these days?
Could someone please take intel's marketing dept out back and put them down. The CPU model names no longer convey any meaningful information about the damn CPUs with having a spreadsheet handy for reference I guess...
Personally, I'm not going to spend much more than $100 for a CPU. People with a bottomless pit of money will always go with Intel anyway, even when they aren't the top of the performance heap.
Yeah! I really like how Intel works. Main stream and discount i5 & i3 require new motherboards. Are they mad. Any system requiring a new Intel mobo will never be main stream or discount. From the price of the Intel mobo alone you are already in high end territory.
Hi!
If you take a look at the numbers, these new processors perform just slightly better than AMD's current offering which is all good for reviews but irrelevant for everyday use especially when you see that Games benefit more from a more powerful GPU than a CPU (see Gaming benchmarks at highest settings) ... and the once demanding 'video transcoding' is also accelerated by the GPU so CPU numbers don't count as much.
Try running some games with intel's (integrated) graphics and any CPU comes down to its knees.
Multimedia apps and social networking are important things for most people these days, requiring a good GPU and a better than average broadband connection.
Personally, I believe that a system with AMD chipset + AMD/ATI Graphics delivers much more in terms of performance and value!
Not to point out the obvious, but AMD motherboards are much cheaper than Intel and the x4 ii 940 is cheaper than the core i5 750. DDR2 is cheaper than DDR3 or you probably already have some. Point being AMD is still cheaper, not a better value. Though intel chips procs, NB and SB run hot on me usually which is not fun.