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Americans continue plans to switch off the Internet
THE FORMER UK COLONY of Virginia has continued its plans to rule the world by threatening to switch off the Internet.
The nation that was formed by a French backed rabble of terrorists has insisted that it has run the Internet since day one and is demanding that its President has the right to tell the world what to do or he can just switch it off.
A draft [shurely daft - Ed] piece of legislation was brought up last year and sent Internet companies and civil liberties groups into a spin. It gave the White House the power to disconnect from the Internet private sector computer networks that it deems to be 'critical infrastructure'.
There was so much alarm that the bill was tabled, but now a revised version has been drawn up by Senator Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat.
CNET got a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773, which still appears to permit the executive branch to seize temporary control of private sector networks.
Apparently all the President has to do is declare a "cybersecurity emergency" relating to vaguely specified non-governmental computer networks.
However the Internet Security Alliance says the law is too vague and adopting it would harm private businesses.
Senate supporters said that the bill merely proposes what President Bush did when he grounded all aircraft on September 11, 2001.
The new law would allow the President to conduct "periodic mapping" of private networks thought to be critical and would require those companies to share requested information with the federal government.
If the law is passed and the White House considers your industry critical, regulations will kick in about who you can hire, what information you must disclose to the federal government, and when government agencies could take over and exercise control over your computers and networks.
The White House says that it does not see the bill as giving it the power to order a "shutdown or takeover of the Internet".
It claims the bill just says how the president can direct the public-private response to a crisis, secure the economy and safeguard financial networks, protect the American people, their privacy and civil liberties, and coordinate the government's response.
We're surprised that it didn't throw in motherhood and apple pie as well, and of course we'll all just have to take its word about that.
Then there is also the small matter of what a presidential order to shut down the Internet might do to the rest of the world. We guess it doesn't matter, since the US has ignored repeated requests from the rest of the world to hand over control of the Internet to a world body. µ
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I turn the internet off every night. Damn, all you really gotta do is throw a master switch and the whole frakkin' house goes dark.
Looks to me what we need are individual kill switches at all "critical" entities inside our boundaries. That way we can kill ourselves and leave the rest of the world alone.
Yes it can be done. I used to assist in the setup of just such a switch to turn off power to certain non essential businesses in the event of electric grid emergencies. The technology is there.
Cough,cough..isn't America the last bastion of Liberty & Freedom,lol?
This is just a continuation of the erosion of liberty,freedom & privacy.
WAKE UP!! you retarded Yanks...YOU need protection from YOUR government.
Just like the STUPID brits..youv'e got & had your snouts in the capitalist pig trough for so long,that the concepts of freedom,liberty & privacy mean jack s*** to you.
The bill only allows the President to order that government and government-critical systems be disconnected from the Internet in the case of a net emergency. In other words, it allows for an executive order disconnecting (for example) the .mil domain or the .gov domain. It does not mention commercial entities at all.
Basically, it gives the President authority to order fedgov sysdamins to do what they might be afraid to do on their own authority -- isolate critical government/defense infrastructure in an emergency.
Many of the other elements ascribed to the bill appear to be totally imaginary -- the product of people voicing opinions based on forums like this one, instead of READING THE BILL.
I suspect that any President could do this anyway, simply by invoking war powers. The distinction here is that this bill recognizes that the Internet is a vital infrastructure resource like roads and airports.
America's NSA, via its Echelon system, already monitors every single electronic transmission originating in Europe (and I suspect the rest of the world as well.)
That's every single call, text, email and tweet.
One would think you'd be happy.
Otherwise, please leave us Americans alone... the truth is, sadly, the world outside America is cold, dark, and miserable. You're boring. We don't want you.
The last thing on Earth we want... is anything you have. OTOH, we do tend to concern ourselves with keeping what's ours out of the rest of the world's ever outstretched palm.
Socialism is like the old Feudalism system of the past. A top down rule of law that maintained rigid control over everyone. You owed service to the ruler and everyone knew their "place" in society. Hitler, Communists, and kings of the past all wanted the same thing. CONTROL of every aspect of life for the "common man". Control over industry, what was allowed to be read/said, media, your job, and land.
I will take freedom over socialism any day. I can make MY OWN decisions thank you very much. Minimum Governmental Control = Freer and happier society.
DeeplyShrouded,
Re: You're kidding right?
Uncle Sam is just as Real as Al Qaeda, being a random rag tag collection of competing factions serving no Unifying Goal and prepared to be a Fools' Tool to be Supreme Grand Master of Nothing Masterly. ........ or has Capital Federal Reserve Interests donned the Captain America disguise to require all to need Banked Currency to Survive and Feed them the World Riches for Free, with Al Qaeda being the Latter Day Saints Morph of Communism and Flower Power which chooses to Reject Monetary Slavery to the Printers of Money?
And that makes it Ripe for Military Makeover and/or Takeover for they are the Ones being Regularly Abused and Used to Perpetuate AIMyth ...... and it is just what everyone Needs.... Structured Discipline for the Promotion of Excellent BiPedestrian Leaders in Programs and Projects with Pioneering Ships, Planes and AutoMobiles.
America wants to switch off the internet?
First off, even though I live here, I
think America has its collective head
up it's collective ass 99.9% of the time.
America refuses to adopt the metric system
as the rest of the world has, they freak
out if a tit is shown on network television, it took them 20+ years to
find the Unabomber (because he didn't
use technology) and despite all the
supposed 'superior' technology America
is supposed to have, it's been 8 years
and they still haven't found Osama Bin
Laden.
I think it would be funny to see
America try to 'shut off the internet'.
You don't think other countries don't
have their own DNS servers that update
on a daily basis too?
How about America isolate itself from
the internet? It'd stop all the
Nigerian email spam for one thing.
Yeah like I really believe Prince
Whatthefuckhisname left me millions
of dollars in a country so poor that
people still crap in the gutter.
I'll tell you what happens if they do
shut down the DNS servers in the USA.
The rest of the world goes on. Life
goes on.
I wish America would stop thinking it's
the most important country in the world
and realize it's part of a worldwide
community.
No wonder the politicians never read
the bills they sign, they're all as
stupid as this one........
On a positive note:
To all those who have sacrificed and
served in the military, THANK YOU!!!!
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
Your eyes must be brown. I don't see people flocking to Canada, England or France to get operations. Worst quality of health care? What have you been smoking?
'I smell socialism, and that is not good for our country'
Actually it almost certainly is. Assuming your country is America then you have the worst quality of health care of any developed nation in the world whilst paying the most for it. A small amount of socialism in providing such infrastructure (as per EVERY other developed nation in the world) would go along way towards fixing how badly America is broken.
Karmakaze for PRESIDENT! :-)
I like the internet, it's useful, but not only for me, the Devil must likes it to, a nice can of worms for his fishing.
The internet has become a world class religion in itself [hodgepodge], the powers at be that hate traditional religion are noticing it loud and clear.
Attention is drawn away from politics because of the internet again another belief system, this article don't surprise me one bit. A country could in fact issue a Cyber Blackout command, which will only delay information coming in or out, of that country.
Another side benefit the internet produced is keeping people busy at good things, but a can of worms doesn't last forever and could anger anybody wanting fish, thereof switching to dynamite or draining the lake. What I'm saying is, the individuals busy at the bad things on the internet may revolt and take to the streets.
“The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”
In this case, replace “censorship” with “any attempt to shut it down”.
PS: My CAPTCHA was “WTFFVO”. At least half-appropriate. :)
Ok so this may bare the name of Virgina but it reeks of Orrin Hatch and trust me it won't come close to passing. For those that don't know Hatch he's the retard that tried to get a bill passed which allowed groups like the RIAA to destroy private property if they suspected it was involved in copywrite infringement and a bill which made the development, manufacture or sale of any system/medium which could be used for copywrite infringement illegal including but not limited to optical discs, magnetic hard drives, computers in general, VCRs, DVRs, etc... So ya there will always be people trying to pass stupid bills but they almost never get through, especially when they are blatantly unconstitutional.
" lol ... Geez I totally underestimated the tin foil hat wearing population around here lol" ... posted by : jason, 31 August 2009
It is a easy and common enough mistake which many make, jason, but really nothing to beat yourself up about. :-) You can be assured though that it is not misunderestimated by Others working in CyberIntelAIgent Algorithm Fields for Foreign and Alien Intelligence Servers ...... Virtually New World Order Programs and Banking Projects..... which is in Deed, indeed, Bilderberger Type Stuff cloaked in Cloud and DRidden as Nonsense and GBIrish but around Virtual Reality Tables is IT SMART beyond Common Understand for Perfect Transparent Transfer of Security Protocols and PAL Locks.
You might like to consider learning D in Order to Better Beta Communicate with ITs Virtual Beings and thus be Enabled to Remotely Power Earthly Control from an IntelAIgently Designed Space for Global Operating Devices ..... http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ .... although is that information a Red Herring to have you Tilting at Windmills, leaving the Field of Progress Free of Distraction for Absolute Control of Future Realities?
amfM NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT would Posit it to be Exactly So and would Invite Joint AddAIdDVenturers to ITs Private Pirate Party Platforms ....... HaloDecks. And QuITe Perfect for Funds in Need of REST and Protection from Assault and Legal Purchase by Illegal Classified Binary Means
"To Karmakazi, lets just see how well the Brits would have done without the U.S.A. " .... posted by : Jeremiah, 31 August 2009
Jeremiah, They are doing much better nowadays, thank you very much, which is Really all that Matters for the Future because to dwell on and/or in the Past is to abdicate one's own responsibility and chance to Shape and Driver Progress. ..... but as you must surely Imagine, such is an XXXXStreamly Complex Simple Program with IT and Media .... with many Entangling Strings and Core Elements Tangling and InterNetworking across Networks .... http://tinyurl.com/mwdyj4
The Internet IS Controlled and is Best Controlled whenever its Programmers are Free from General IDEntity, and thus is IT So Woven and Shared.
And I would agree with SKYNET that Hollywood Knights would be a Perfect Vehicle to Play Proxy Host and BroadBandCast Holywood NIRobotIQs and Alien Deeds for a Renaissance and Renegade Change with AI in Live Operational Virtual Environment and their Reality Zones/Media Supported and Limited Intelligence Fields.
* And Shared as a Question because Barking Mad Orders are only for Dogs and Puppets and Create Chaos unnecessarily.
The laws of probability only allow for a certain amount of stupidity. After that, you must consider the possibility of intent. They mean to ruin us all. Don't worry, us Americans are doing something about this government. We are getting drunk. Thanks Russia, good idea.
The Governator must have his hand in this somewhere. He must be really trying to get Skynet running.
how did you miss it
motherboard-hood
and apple computer pie
I imagine the real way that the White House would take over networks in an emergency is not very technical at all. I suspect the White House would simply just call up the companies and tell them (or request a court to issue orders) to block traffic or disconnect from the internet until the crisis had passed.
We must stop the Internet as it is and put some control over it. Murdoch agrees, Barry Fascist Obama agrees, the CIA agrees, Bilderburg agrees, CFR agrees, most UN members agree, freedom of speech is baaaaad mmmkay! How the hell is the Fascist Anglo/American NWO going to cope? At least Google is trying hard with cloud computing, so big brother can keep our files and information safe ;) Bring it on Obama, Sharia Law Yes We Can! We don't need the Internet, 'everything' we need is in the Koran. All the scientific facts are in it, open your eyes and btw the world is flat!
All Your Internets Are Belong to Us
Best post in a large pile of steaming crap...of course I mean your post smells the most.
To rich wargo, get off of the crack, cause that's what your smoking if you think fox news is giving it to you straight.
To Karmakazi, lets just see how well the Brits would have done without the U.S.A.
I think that this bill is stupid but it sure seems in line with the so called "Patriot Act" that the bush lovers let slide by. What we need is for people to quit bitching on one side or the other and start getting things done!
Time to denixonify the US.
yep the guy who came up with this bulled it out of his azz while his head is still in it!
Just for that, i hope someone deals them a big blow just to make em look like fools. I like to see people eat their words.
Some freedom, it's only a fake sense and one can have sex with their dogs or some other pets, and thats about where freedom ends... oh and the fact that people are welcome to have sex with their mothers as freedom goes. Other thne that you cant use the services of prostatute and in the open even though you can have sex in the streets of germany called love parade (more f**k parade).
But look this is your western idea of freedom, and i hope the lot of you burn in hell or otherwise the alien deals the lot of you... leaving those dumb and innocent armish lot, come on, these lot don't hurt a fly.
bye. world. i wish you all a good swine flu and death. ha, ha, ha... .
ROFL
To "Arrogant" American:
Perfect name for you. If you weren't an arrogant American, you would know that every country does have it own DNS and IP infrastructure that can be totally independent of the US. Your whole country could eveaporate, and we would barely notice the disruption.
You can thank the US military for inventing a practically indestructible network infrastructure and giving it to the rest of us. Now, we don't need you. Hell a lot of the bad shit on the net comes from you lot anyway, so maybe it would be a good thing if you all got cut off.
To Drew K:
You smell socialism? OMG no we're all going to die! You do realise the cold war ended a decade ago right? You can stop using socialism and communism as the new "witch!" accusation. No one cares about your retarded political views.
To Alex Jones:
Idiot. Seriously. You lot have been talking about this bullshit for decades. Hitler rose to power, conquered half the world was defeated and his country became an ally to its former enemies in half the time the "NWO" has supposedly been trying to take over the world. What the f**k are they waiting for?
To Glenn McGinnis:
Are you sure you're not from PUTZ, Florida? Because you most certainly are the king of them. You take a whole bunch of contradictory political philosophies (including one that actually represents what you believe - Facism - "a merger of corporate and state power" as defined by the man who invented the word) and treat them as one, simply because you have been brainwashed.
To beauzero:
Don't worry about it. The typical American's overinflated view of their country's importance is making you believe that your country can cut off the rest of us. You can't. The only people to suffer will be Americans. And we don't care about that.
To Ben:
You seriously want to go there after your government had to bail out your entire private economy because corporations couldn't even make money by loaning money? That has been going on for millenia and it took modern corporations to f**k it up. Well done.
Let's see... Banks - Tick, Car manufacturers - Tick... shall I go on?
To Rich Wargo:
The US doesn't "host the internet", retard. All you "host" is your OWN internet, and I'm sure a lot of the rest of us would be happy to see the likes of you gone from the rest of the world's internet.
Case in point "And people who watch Fox, versus NBC/CBS/ABC are real people, not drooling, knuckle-dragging libtards."
Most of the world's population and even your own population (right and left) disagree. And you help prove it. Suck back the dribble and go back to Fox.
To jeff e:
Actually, in 1941 your country wasn't even able to protect its own island, but by then the British had beaten back the German invasion plan and had halted their expansion in Africa.
The tiny (comparatively), isolated island nation had been fighting the best the Germans had to offer for two years by then, while right up till the last minute your corporations and even politicians were actively supporting the Nazis.
But don't let the truth get in the way of your retarded rewriting of history.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for the US to cut off the rest of the world from the Internet. It was DESIGNED that way!
TCP/IP is a group of protocols that was designed to make a highly distributed network so that taking out one node (say AT&T's network) could not and would not disrupt any other node, even if nuclear war was the cause.
Remember when those cables got cut and most of the Middle East was "darkened"? Well, internally their internet still worked, and externally ours did too. All that was lost was the interconnections.
The US could dig up every cable and chop down every wirless transmitter in every territory that they control, and all they would have managed to do is cut themselves off from the rest of us. We would barely notice.
By the way, most major services like Facebook etc have multiple server farms geographically spread sometimes globally to prevent the disruption of service from a node going down. So even US services like those would still be available to us unless other governments agreed to cut them off or those services agreed to shut down their European server farms too.
And this is what passes for journalism nowadays?
Nick has deep seated resentment for the U.S. and I don't understand why. Nick, go get the video game Wolfenstein, you can make up for all the Nazis your country "appeased" in the last century that led to the deaths of millions of people. Good job Britain on that whole WWII thing...oops. You can go on and on about the American revolution, but you can't escape the fact that this former colony of Virginia saved your ass from Hitler when your country was too weak to do anything but look the other way.
Nick has deep seated resentment for the U.S. and I don't understand why. Nick, go get the video game Wolfenstein, you can make up for all the Nazis your country "appeased" in the last century that led to the deaths of millions of people. Good job Britain on that whole WWII thing...oops. You can go on and on about the American revolution, but you can't escape the fact that this former colony of Virginia saved your ass from Hitler when your country was too weak to do anything but look the other way.
"...and you can't fight a war without money!" .... posted by : Ryan, 31 August 2009
And just printing it and flying it in by the tonne renders the currency practically worthless as your enemies realise your weakness and how to exploit it. But hey, when wealth is so easily created why is it so difficult to access/receive funding for spending to generate and support industry. Do you have to have a funny handshake or do some serious arse-licking at the Mint/Treasury which would indicate who is causing and is directly responsible for all the problems worldwide?
"Everyone with half a braincell knows thar the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are for control of the oil fields." ...... posted by : Ali Baba Black Sheep, 31 August 2009 .... and the dope, ABBS, and the minerals and the gems and the ......
Fortunately though, Gen Stanley McChrystal appears to favour an altogether Better Beta Special Forces approach .... for the present big stick Vietnam strategy? is a another monumental Fail.
Dear Euro-peons: If you don't like having the U.S. host the Internet, set up your own DNS infrastructure. Otherwise, piss off.
@brickling: You're correct, Obama is not a socialist, but rather a full-fledged, card-carrying Marxist/Leninist. Just look who he was educated by, politically speaking.
BHO's birth certificate, at least the one shown publicly, IS fake. He won't show us the real one.
And people who watch Fox, versus NBC/CBS/ABC are real people, not drooling, knuckle-dragging libtards.
"Every liberal I've ever met is about as interesting as snot on the sidewalk, and about as intelligent as such. Which is why us Democrats will remain in power." - famed Democratic party leader.
Let us make this perfectly clear:
The Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity Bill is in no way intended to cut off the internet privileges of the French (they do a fine job at this of their own accords) or the Dutch (whom as we all know backed the dollar when it had no other sovereigns). Trois strikes should do the trick.
For in large part it was the backing of the French that what put paid to George III. An insane tyrant who wanted to become the king of Quebec. He was described as having foam coming from the mouth and his eyes were so bloodshot that they looked like currant jelly. King George was placed in a strait-jacket and eventually his doctors had a special iron throne made to restrain their patient. Other treatment included putting poultices of Spanish Fly and mustard all over the King's body; the idea was that the painful blisters which resulted would draw out the "evil humours". By April 1789, George's doctors came to the conclusion that he had recovered from his madness and he was allowed to carry on with his royal duties. This was like asking Al Capone for an independent investigation of organized crime in Chicago. Never has his imperialism been so baldly stated.
So you see, Black Bag Operations are in no way novel. I haven’t read every word, every jot and every tittle o'the RBS, but I do know this: That it has been, however, argued that as far as a president is concerned, that in war time, a president does have certain extraordinary powers which would make acts that would otherwise be unlawful, sacrosanct.
So in the event that a hacker such as Gary Mckinnon have motive not to cover up a criminal action, but to be sure that as any slip over—or should I say slop over, a better word—any slop over in a way that would damage innocent people or blow it into political proportions, throwing a spanner into the werks.
Then, the P.O.T.U.S., shall have the non-impeachable purvey to take out whoever the Guy Faukes it would be that had a go at Checkers once.
Put it out that he was a supporter to Teddy Kennedy, and under no circumstances, alert the targeted dissenters and raise a public outcry.
After all, the president of the United States is not a crook, innit?
Interagency Committee on Intelligence (a.k.a. the gnu oxymorons)
...almost. If you RTFA, the idea is to give .gov authority to slam the routes shut to critical infrastructure in an emergency, so that infrastructure continues operating but the supposed foreign scriptkid armies can't get at it. Of course, as a USian... it's on our soil, but .gov doesn't own the cables the way it owns and can roadblock the highways, so that aspect is certainly troublesome.
As a sysadmin, I can enjoy some schadenfreude at the idea of .gov declaring, say, a utility company's security so incompetent that they have to slam the gates shut to make sure.
But problems immediately arise: If you're exposing critical systems to The Internet, chances are your systems are dependent on Internet routes to function, and if you haven't conducted drills and due diligence ahead of time, your telemetry goes dark and the power grid trips / your reactor melts down *because* you isolated the subnet.
Thus, it seems brightest to limit this to industries that are already tightly regulated / operated under license, where the regulators can enforce the drills, tests, and engineering standards as well. [The NRC, for instance, should have this authority... and probably already does, anyway, though hasn't learned how to wield it in any useful capacity, since the idea of an official electronic quarantine order hasn't been mooted until now.]
Limited to power plants, hospitals, refineries, and other things that can definitely kill people if some dork bluescreens the right machine, I could almost support it. Except for the other problem: once you order it, you can never lift it, or said masses of foreign scriptkiddies will immediately know when you're vulnerable again. Whoops. You'll always be at war with Oceania until Oceania's botnet is shut down.
Since when has anything the government controlled succeeded or is FREE? Medicare is bankrupt, Social Security is Bankrupt, Welfare is a joke, USPS is Bleeding money daily yet you want "FREE" healthcare? Sorry but there is NO SUCH THING AS FREE when it comes from government. Somebody has to pay for it.
I'm sure your just want to sit on your laurels and play WII all day while the rest of us break our backs working while you sit back and leech from those that are actually doing something useful for society.
If you are working then you can check your pay stub...you see the Medicare deduction? How about Social Security deduction? Both of those programs you or myself will NEVER benefit from, it's a permanent TAX. You may not pay for "FREE" Healthcare upfront, but you WILL pay for it through either higher taxes or paycheck deductions (still taxes) or somebody else pays for it for you!
Wake up and smell the coffee..."FREE" healthcare is NOT what the USA needs.
And personally, I don't like obama either...guess that makes me racists also...
I sincerely apologize to the world for our (U.S.'s) ability to do stupid things. The current controlling government that we have can't seem to think its way out of a phone booth. I have NEVER seen so many idiotic ideas or uneducated "guesses" come up for a vote. The only thing dumber than an American politician is the voter that puts them in office.
That is not true. American citizens (Americans) would never dream of such a stupid thing. It is the American government, more specifically, the American socialist - marxist - communist - fascist - oligarchy - junta (pick which is most appropriate for any given day} who wants to seize every available shard of power and control. Community organizers cannot stand to see anything exist that they can't screw up whenever they want. Whatever One Big Assed Mistake American wants he usually gets.
Glenn McGinnis
Lutz, FL
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I was going to comment then i read some of them and realised i'd be better of shitting in a mouses hat. More loony lefties and righties than a schizophrenic amputee party.
Geez I totally underestimated the tin foil hat wearing population around here lol
SHUT UP! you don't hate Obama cause he is socialist(and he isn't), or because his birth certificate is fake(because it isn't). I bet you don't even want FREE health care. afraid of the death panels, eh? you hate Obama cause you are racist.
so, F**k you, stop watching fox. everyone in the country is trying to get things done, but half the country is running around with a different set of facts. So here is a tip, if you watch fox news, don't talk politics
It is stupid legislation whether it is proposed under a republican or democrat executive, or passed under a republican or democrat executive.
So it is a rehash of something proposed under a R admin, submitted under a D admin.
You know, part of the USA political ethic was originally 'no kings'. Why have so many Americans now fallen into treating their president like one?
Just part of the Bilderberg final solution. In addition to control of the internet, FEMA internment camps have already been built throughout the US, and FEMA has also ordered 500,000 coffins. I wonder who those are for? FEMA has by executive order, a right to suspend the US constitution during an "emergency". All that is left to do is chip us all with RFID implants.
I think people need to wake up NOW!! and realize what is goin on in Washington, I smell socialism, and that is not good for our country, i want my country back and the true morals and values that came with it when we became a nation. when election comes around vote them democrats out of office and bring the republicans in again or someone who knows how to solve this problem, not make it worse for us. USA not USSA.
One western nation after another has fallen prey to Firewall Envy. First Australia decided to implement their own version of the so-called Golden Shield, with France following a damned close second. Now the USA is saying "Hey, I can do one better! I can screw the whole world over!".
And they probably wonder why the rest of the world doesn't trust them while they do it.
BOHICA boys. The USA is at it again.
Simple solution, cut all wires with the Yankees and done with their fear-terror-phobia.
God grief, they are stupid.
Didn't an American say: Who stupid is, stupid does?
Well it was a boring movie anyway :-)
If you'd ever like to take back a former colonist, I'm sure that most of us here would gladly send you Barak Obama.
Sorry I don't believe in religion. I haven't even read the law and can't comment on specifics but I doubt anyone else here has either. In the past many large industries and companies have been legally required to cooperate with the government in order to defend the country. Maybe you might want to consider the parallels with that and realize it's not such an amazing request by the government. It is a little depressing how reactionary everyone is being about this.
The only terrorists in the world today are those that claim they do things in order to stop terrorism. We all know that 9/11 was a government run conspiracy to get the new world order fully in place and blame it all on so-called terrorists. Everyone with half a braincell knows thar the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are for control of the oil fields.
When the world finally wakes up it will be too late ...
...though very inaccurate. The French helped the Colonies three years after the start of the American Revolution. And they were integral to our eventual victory. But don't forget that Britain did NOT have the resources to suppress the rebellion. It lacked the money and the manpower, which it obtained from several German states that provided no less than 30000 troops (roughly doubling the total British army of 1775). So, whereas you write that America won independence because of the French, I maintain, backed by significant historical evidence, that Britain would have surrendered much more quickly had it not been for their German support. Remember, one of the main causes of the war was Parliament imposing unreasonable taxes on the Colonies because they were broke...and you can't fight a war without money!
All of that aside, Obama is an idiot, as are his democrat cronies in Congress. This proposal to essentially militarize private networks is bull$hit. Fortunately, if it even passes, it will get thrown out if there is even the slightest bit of reason left in the judiciary. This bill is blatantly unconstitutional.
As for all of this crap about handing over the internet...wow, just wow! To whom would control be given? The UN? The EU? Yeah, because those two organizations are noted for their efficiency and lack of corruption!
awsome... the sooner they disconnect and stop peddeling thier Pron and views of global domination on the rest of the world the better. (should also put paid to all them Masters of the Universe messin up the rest of the world by selling homeless ppl condo's).
just have to make sure they cant sneak out and start snoopin on the rest of the worlds pron when they get bored...
then they can say they have stamped out all that media counterfitting and cybercrime, cos theres no more internet to do it on anymore(least not in the usa). (yeah get them crims back to postal fraud and keep em there)
course they could always roll back the telecoms networks to 56k dialup only.
Jason, I understand your fear that these great powers will give to our world leader to much power, but you have to understand that we as a nation only wish to better this world. If God is my witness we will stop those sinners from attacking us and turn them towards the light. They will Know the name Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior.
If only everyone understood that if theses powers happen to fall upon the Leader of the world that God meant for them to be given to our leader, and no one else. With these powers he will be able to stop the terrorists from ever attacking our country again.
God Bless
Father Joe
No more facespacing, twitlogs, vidgeo games, youtubes, and p0rn! The internet is world wide how can we turn it off anyway? That doesn't even make sense. There are legitimate national security concerns where the internet is concerned and if necessary the government can use capacity assigned to large corporations to respond to threats. There really isn't any other way to go about it, if you can't control the networks you protect then what good can you possibly do? Besides launching real physical weapons at the source which may or may not be directly responsible.
I have faith that Obama and the leader of the world will make the right decision when the time is needed. He needs to control the internet so he can stop those terrorists. If they are aloud to speak freely they destroy our right to coexist in the world
Obviously those peace loving hippies want to stop that and to destroy our government, and the American way of living. God will protect all of us from the terrorist now that Obama has the power to stop them. I wish everyone loved our country as much as I do, and they would know that we mean to only help this world into the next.
Thank you
God bless America
Father Joe
How can the US turn off the internet when the majority of root dns servers are located outside of the United States?
If they want to control it internally, fine, that is their prerogative. Meanwhile all the talking heads will just continue to sit around and talk about civil liberties and such, while doing absolutely nothing.
How about you get your own DNS infrastructure in place and stop leeching off of ours. So far all of your efforts have been lukewarm at best. Gee, not so easy, is it?
I think this bill is stupid, but I think it's stupider that everyone relies on the US as being the backbone of the Internet, and then complains about it. Lets see the EU build their own infrastructure- hell, make it compatible with the US' if you want- and then they can rule the roost.
See money? See mouth? Combine the two.
Yay. Western world embracing China-like methods. Fantastic. They can get any info they want with a subpoena from court - so this is probably to force compliance to anyone quoting civil liberties as defence not to disclose whatever they want without a warrant.
I did not vote for any of those Fascists we have in Washington right now. If this would have happened under Bush the State run media, I mean media would have been all over it and the communists in the ACLU would be in a uproar with all the other liberal/fascist community organizer organizations. ACORN
just when I think I've read the silliest thing possible I find myself coming across this