Microsoft holds 'Screw Google' meetings

MS has been doing this to every competitor. If they can't beat you fairly or buy you out, they try and destroy you. But what do expect from a convicted monopolist.

Linux gaming system

I don't mean the games we have now on Linux, though. I mean that one or more gaming companies should band together and start porting their games to Linux. The easiest way to do this, in my opinion, would be to standardize their code so that it works both on Windows and in the Windows simulation program Wine.

People hate Wine because it's hard to get programs to work properly with it, but many of these problems would go away if the programmers would facepalm Windows when they try to dictate how the code is written. Microsoft doesn't deserve this respect, they need to be put in their place. Standardized code is what the world deserves.

I think there will be a day when M$ will run out of money to throw around. Face it they are bullies,thieves and liars. pond scum sounds about right.Its laughable how they try to belittle company's who have kicked they butts.If you think windows 7 is fast try Ubuntu 9.04. By the way Linux games have come a long way, I am not a big gamer but alien arena and other games are free and good enough for me.
I HATE MICOSOFT! THEY SUCK

Notice their new habit of rewriting links as follows?:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&ei=ovSTwvUZZGe78aXnbFrBZ&rct=j&q=google&usg=LMQjNQF1-9Jej-ukghlJTgw24tt2bfzbYg

It may not be "evil" but it is "completely fucking annoying." Between this and the declining quality of their search results, they're going to have an uphill battle.

Bing certainly isn't better, but may actually have the right idea - Google has to do so much man-behind-the-curtain bullshit (making sure Wikipedia is always on top, deciding how much spam to mix in so you'll be sure to see N AdWords before finding a useful result) that being "honest" about the weighting (the "decision engine" BS, where searching for medical terms favors some sites, travel favors others) might really be the way to go.

Still not switching my habits, but I'll call a less-than-awful idea when I see one. [Does any normal human remember, let alone use, linux.google.com / scholar.google.com / etc?]

Bing is just concerned at the unbridled colusion between Google and The Currant Bun, and the big click off for the Premier League points, where Liverpool would be top of the table.

Google, who have released figures of footie related searches:

GOOGLE SEARCH PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE

Boss of searches ... Fergie

1. Liverpool 16million

2. Chelsea 13m

3. Arsenal 9.1m

4. Manchester United 9m

5. Portsmouth 4m

6. Tottenham Hotspur 3.3m

7. Manchester City 1.9m

8. Sunderland 1.8m

9. Blackburn 1.7m

10. Everton 1.7m

11. Wigan Athletic 1.5m

12. Fulham 1.3m

13. West Ham United 1.2m

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14. Wolverhampton Wanderers 1.2m

15. Aston Villa 1m

16. Burnley 900k

17. Birmingham City 500k

18. Hull City 450k

19. Stoke City 300k

20. Bolton Wanderers 250k

VOLE DREAM TEAM wonders why Google's so good at 'Selling the Dummy'.

Game code is already "standardized" for games on Windows. Windows games use DirectX, which is well documented and designed to work on every Windows computer that has the libraries. Just because Wine does not properly emulate another platform's libraries properly does not mean the standard is broken.

Also, the very fact that you are proposing that game makers just make their code work within Wine acknowledges that Linux is *not* a worthy platform for dedicating resources to porting games to. If it were, game makers would make the games run natively on Linux systems, rather than relying on some half-baked emulation project. You are, in effect, relegating Linux to continued subservience to Microsoft and Windows.

Like so many things related to Linux, if it ever wants to be taken seriously, it needs to stop operating in an inferiority complex role and start becoming a player of its own, irregardless of what competitors do. We will know that Linux has "arrived" when it's not news that someone chose it over the "alternatives." Sadly, it doesn't seem to be the case.

And the stupid politicians in Washington are used as pawns in this game. All lobbying activity should be outlawed.

Regulas (first poster) is right.

This is what Microsoft does. When they know they cannot compete with you technically or directly, they will find other means. Whether that is to lobby the Govt, buy out International votes to favour their standards, play dumb when directly questioned in court, or publicly undermine someone using their marketing machine.

They do NOT compete in business. Instead, they act like they are in a war. They will use ANY means as they deem fit...Once they've exhausted all options, then they'll try to be friends with you. (Because they cannot destroy you.)

Its the same fundamental strategy they've tried in the past. Step back, do a little research, and you'll see.

Microsoft attacks when they see you as a threat to their long term prosperity.

MS's greatest weakness is that they are a business that focuses on short term gains with quick results. Outlast them, and they generally leave you alone.

As Scott has pointed out, they don't have infinite monetary resources. Everything they do costs them money...Including the lovely hand towels in their bathrooms!

I mean, let's be real. Its not like Linux people get ever discuss how to improve their work and look at what others have done so they can do it better.

And everyone knows that Google NEVER introduces ideas to make themselves better than anyone else.

We all know that the only company that would be so underhanded, so immoral to compete or look at what competitors would do is Microsoft. How dare they?

What a bunch of whiny, hypocrites you all are. Sad.

I assume you are all using Firefox. Do you really think that nothing in Firefox is a reaction to make it better than IE? Retards. Its all based on that.

I can understand hating some of the stuff Microsoft does, but hating it for doing the same exact thing as everyone else does is just pathetic.

The "screw Google" weekly meetings are just a part of the weekly meeting schedule at Microsoft:

Mondays: Screw Google meeting
Tuesdays: Screw Linux meeting
Wednesdays: Screw the consumer meeting
Thursdays: Screw business "partners" meeting.
Fridays: Screw corporate clients meeting.

So Google should not feel singled-out here; they are just one part of Microsoft's "screw the world" business plan.

@ Jason:

Actually, Frictional Games has a number of game titles compiled to run natively on Linux (and Mac). I just finished the Penumbra trilogy on Linux, and the 3D was very smooth and immersive (and Linux games are often cheaper than their Windows counterparts). I hope other game manufacturers will follow Frictional Games lead in releasing 3D Linux (and Mac) games.

http://www.frictionalgames.com/site/games

Get your facts straight.

DirectX is as standard as Word, like any other "standard" that some big companies force through our throat.

It's quite pathetic to call "standard" a bunch of libraries and documents that steer the developer into make things exactly how a particular business want.

Let alone the DirectX+Vista fiasco.

We do have something that we call call a standard, OpenGL, whose games could run on any system that you can dream about. But, you know, money talks.

Besides, you also seem to ignore that Linux has many distributions. I guess you may have seen an Ubuntu or some other user-friendly iteration running for a few minutes and them came with such futile conclusion.

What this has to do with the Screw Google thing by the way?