Toshiba enters Blu-ray world

I've been waiting for this i would love for Toshiba to make a stand alone player with a cell processor (they seem to be putting it in everything now laptops, TV's) that would probably make it one of the fastest and best looking blu-ray players on the market.

The problem would be it would still be a blu-ray player.

I'm so tired of medium shifting and price gouging now coupled with draconian DRM I'm ignoring blu-ray.

Give us the dirt cheap CBHD instead of overpriced DRM nightmare called the blueray..

It's a shame. A real shame. HD-DVD was the better format for consumers. Even CBHD looks like going the way of Region encoding and heavy DRM (Rumours).
Oh well. Here's to Tosh holding off as long as possible before succumbing though. Good on you guys! I'll keep my HD-DVD's higher on the shelf than my BDs.

what would Hitler do when he receive the news from his comrades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frZTf3mX97c

People still use optical discs?

at least this time you didn't have to buy all new movies, like the move from VHS to DVD.

Oh and I'll take the multi-vendor BDA to the dictatorial Toshiba arrangement.

That's all this was, and you know that, right? Yep. The whole disc war was the CE industry vs the dictatorial Toshiba. $ony may be been in front of the BDA, but pretty much every company in it has a patent or two. This whole war was solely to end To$hiba's BS lock on the DVD Forum. You won't see me crying over Toshiba losing.

... is to copy the disc's contents to my hard drive. I have hated optical media even back when 2x drives were fast. It's slow, unreliable, prone to physical damage, chemically degrades with time, and is another moving part I'd rather not have to deal with. Not only that, but optical media never keeps up with my data requirements. Even if I could find overpriced 50GB Blu-Ray discs (I can only find 25GB ones online), that amount of storage space just isn't enough, especially for the cost. I'd just rather buy a few jump drives or a cheap hard drive. Too little, too late.

Um, surely having got its first wretched nag shot by the vet, why is Toshiba bothering to get on a lame, frothing horse called "glue factory here I come". Blu-ray isn't a money-spinning format-changer like DVD, its barely a bump in the road to digital.
Surely someone at Tosh can see the all-digital road ahead?

The BDA is an alliance of companies (yes, inc Sony), that formulated an HD replacement for DVD. The DVD Forum (along with Toshiba and a couple of others) did a similar thing with HD-DVD. The only form of DRM mandated by the BDA (and HD-DVD for that matter) was AACS (DVD mandated CSS). For Blu-Ray, BD+ is optional. It's the movie studio's that like (and demand DRM), not the creators of the format. To get the buy-in of the studio's, so they will use the format, DRM is absolutely a requirement. Digital movie downloads will also use a form of DRM. You won't get away from it, that's life. Get used to it.

toshiba's hd dvd is out selling blu-ray 2-1 in china, how long before china starts shipping to the world, its hd dvd products that it makes under licence ?

"Derek" I heard the shipments are to start some time after the betamax machines start coming over...

LOL China shipping HD-DVD products to the world. Umm ok... What media will they be shipping, since NONE of the studios have (or ever... EVER WILL) any intention of releasing their catalogs on HD-DVD. So all that is left are pirated movies.

The tribe has spoken.

@giz
CBHD is China's HD-DVD. Toshiba, Intel, Warner and M$ are on the steering comittee for China HD DVD Assoc. So Tosh hasn't really stepped away from HD-DVD, they're promoting it behind the scenes...