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Is it just me, or is Intels new naming scheme just stupid? I thought i7's was 1366 only, but now you have i7's on 1156 too? I have to praise Intel to make it unnecessary complicated.

Now just introduce HT and integrated gfx, and you have complete chaos.

Can someone verify or is it a typo, an i7 with 1156 pin package? Have I been left in the breeze by being an early adopter?

I was just at PDXLAN and we had an Intel presentation and yes there is gonna be core i5 and core i7 on socket 1156. There is also gonna be core i7 on 1366. The 1366 socket is not going to be abandoned. The new Gulftown 6 core 12 thread processors will be 1366 and I think its 32 nm. From what I was told 1156 is gonna be more of a desktop series and 1366 is going to be more of a workstation series. They are doing this to try to hit every upgrade budget and compete more with amd at their price point on 940's and such. BTW I just upgraded to Core i7 and its blazing fast with windows 7.

With a bit of effort, it's easy to understand:

i7 9xx: socket 1366, highest end, all the goodies

i7 8xx: socket 1156, high end, all the goodies except it has dual instead of triple channel memory controller

i5 xxx: socket 1156, mainstream, dual channel mem contrlr., no HT

a few other points:
only the dual cores (to be launched later) will have integrated graphics

all variants except the i7 9xx (socket 1366) will have integrated PCIe controller too.

That was a really helpful comment.

$284 Core i7 860 2.8GHz with 95W TDP.
$337 Core i7 860s 2.53GHz with 82W TDP.

$196 Core i5 750 2.66GHz no HT, 95W TDP.
$259 Core i5 750s 2.4GHz no HT, 82W TDP.

These processor names are very confusing. By just adding an 's' to the name the processors lose .26 Ghz and 13W TDP. The naming convention is NOT very intuitive. People would look and see 750 or 750s and think they are the same speed.

The TDPs are disappointing for 32nm.

That's 20W per core at 2.5GHz. I don't think that's an advance on their 45nm power consumption figures. It's going to make for some awkward mobile CPUs next year when Core i3 and slower Core i5s come out.

Is VT-d needed to run winxp mode in windows 7?

So do these new i7s retain their 1366 cousin's ability to do atleast 2 x (PCIe x16)? ie. how many lanes do they have? The i5s only have enough to do x8 i thought with their onboard pci-e so I wonder if it is the same for the i7s with onboard pci-e.

JeeBee - this would be diasppointing... if they were 32nm. These would be 45nm parts.

You may have missed the Sept6th part in the article.... 32nm parts will not be out that soon. I don't even think the "S" stuff referred to for Q1'10 is 32nm either.

Like Micheal - I also wonder how/why Intel used the same # with 2 different clocks for the S and 'regular' parts - seems misleading. Seems like they just took the part down 1/2 a clock bin (though their may be some selective binning involved too?)

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$284 Core i7 860 2.8GHz with 95W TDP.
$337 Core i7 860s 2.53GHz with 82W TDP.

$196 Core i5 750 2.66GHz no HT, 95W TDP.
$259 Core i5 750s 2.4GHz no HT, 82W TDP.
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Both the 860 and 860s models have Turbo Boost up to 3.46GHz so it's only the all 4-core at max thermal load that differs. 750 and 750s both have same Turbo Boost max.

They should probably restrict the max boost to be inline with a normal TDP model of the same base speed, OR
use a model number between a normal model of the base freq and one with the turbo. eg. 860s renamed 845s 2.53GHz (3.2GHz).

Do you remember that AMD is the first vendor to had stamped their microprocessor chips with windows logo. Microsoft will funded AMD markering efforts with TV advertisements with their DirectX 11 GPU. Also microsoft will support nvidia since their current zune HD already used nvidia tegra. They will advertising that using AMD mpu based PC and Zune HD will enable you to get cloud at my home using wifi from AMD chips. Virtually every new games with directX will be streamed and controlled using zune HD so you don't need to stay on front of your PC for gaming.

Even NASA scientists will shake their heads on these.

Now when someone ask if they would buy the I5 and I7 at the same price than the answer is VT-D.
This is the answer except the tripple DDR III channel, MB, etc. But more focus on the prosesor is VT. I hate Intel for this.

VT-d is the technology that allows you to use your graphics cards inside of a virtual computer, for one example.
VT is required for Windows 7 Virtual PC, but VT-d is not required and so far not supported anyway.

$284 Core i7 860 2.8GHz with 95W TDP.
$337 Core i7 860s 2.53GHz with 82W TDP.

$196 Core i5 750 2.66GHz no HT, 95W TDP.
$259 Core i5 750s 2.4GHz no HT, 82W TDP.

Just for 13W lesser TDP at the cost of a speed drop in the same ratio, almost, and MORE expensive? How does that work?

$284 Core i7 860 2.8GHz with 95W TDP.
$337 Core i7 860s 2.53GHz with 82W TDP.

$196 Core i5 750 2.66GHz no HT, 95W TDP.
$259 Core i5 750s 2.4GHz no HT, 82W TDP.

If you decide to buy any of these processors you are an idiot, cause you can get i7 i920 1366 socket for $280 which overclocks to 4.0Ghz (there are now of D0 revision), and x58 mobos are not in price range from $180, decent $199. LGA 1156 socket mobo will be about same price. Also you don't need to run triple channell on x58, dual channell works too. LGA 1156 socket will never get 6 or 8 core CPUs, but LGA 1366 will.

Don't buy any socket 1156 variant Intel CPU, it's freaking waste of money.

The Core i7 920 sells for $199 now so the i5 isn't looking that great.

Could be worth the money if they overclock as well as I think they would