Japan to ban rape games

Penn Jillette makes an interesting point:
"I think that blaming a video game for rape is normalizing violent sexual behavior. What that says is that we are all rapists and that rape is just under the surface of us and all we need is a video game to just push us a little way."

Watch the full thing on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ACSsUhFk7I

but it will discourage retailers from flogging them.
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Flogging, rape, games, girls. Interesting article.

One should not have sex with a virtual girl without her consent.

Wow! I sure hope that the new Fallout3 DLC (mother ship) will come out before you will not longer be able to kill aliens due to racism.

Besides, who the heck buys games that let you rape people? even in GTA you have to pay a hooker before you can have a bumpy car ride & only after can you shoot her in the head & take the money.

Crazy people.

I applaud the move. Even if rape is or isn't caused or affected by video games, it is deplorable, and this is a good action to prevent the sickening simulation of it.

No reason to have rape in a video game. In fact, any game that allows the player to perform illegal acts should be banned and the authors should be jailed for promoting criminal behavior.

Note that war and repulsing alien invasions are not yet illegal acts, although by the time the Marxo-Bolshevo-Stalinist Obamites get done, even those activities will be banned.

...what difference, in principle, one can find between a "rape simulator" and a "(mass-)murder simulator"; i.e. 90% of the computer games out there.

Or are you lot now taking up the mantle of that crazy lawyer now that he's been disbarred?

What is that? People trying to censor what you think, what you do?
The game might be sexist, but It's a game, in games we can kill hookers, we can blow peasant heads, we can steal, we can even use nukes. It's not illegal, because it's not real.
All this fuss around Rapelay only promoted it. I never heard about it and any other japanese sex game before all these complains and protests.
This "ban" won't be any good too, because even if few stores support the game, It still can be made easily available through ebay, and an on-line store, for download. It won't stop Rapelay 2 from being widely distributed.

Does this game have any DX10.1 features?

Oh dear. Soon I won't be able to starve and genocide entire civilizations in my games, because that would be a crime against humanity--even though we all know that is a very effective method for eliminating "problem" populations.

Yes, it's pretty disgusting that people would want to rape someone in a video game, but at what point do you draw the line? Will they soon be banning media and text depictions of it? What makes a game different than that? The interaction?

Or is it that the game genre only received any amount of attention because it accidentally appeared on Amazon.com?

With the new controls set to come out in new consoles [motion sensors], what will stop game makers producing Sex violent and rape games to include it's use it in them?

Lawyers will have a field day with headlines like:

Child dies at one on one sucker punch video game!

Or:

Girl get pregnant at virtual action of brother!

Remember the parents ARE... NOT... THERE...

With the inclusion of the obsession of riches, the brains behind these just don't really care about whatever happens to customers. I guess they are just paid to think a certain way, lets say over-positively.

I'm sorry but this group will probably be even less effective then Jack Thompson. For those non-gamers he was pretty much a religious zealot of a florida lawyer campaigning against violent or suggestive video games among other things who has since been disbarred for, among other things, putting gay porn in his legal briefs. Don't even think the joke by the way, it's been done to death.

The simple fact is that with rare exceptions groups campaigning against games have never been very successful and the few times I can think of when they have been it was a single title or portion of a title, not a whole category of games. For example the banning of Manhunt II from certain counties until it was toned down or the fixing of the hot coffee portion of GTA: San Andreas. Regardless of what this group intends to do there is obviously a market for these games or they wouldn't keep making them and they will keep being sold one way or another. In all honesty the idea that you can ban something from sale in this day and age is just a pipe dream, there is always some dealer that will carry your product or thanks to the internet you can sell it direct.

I guess the fans of such games shall now have to join the armed forces. Look out Korea, the Japanese are cuming to teach those obviously horny deprived Northern Korean girls and boys a lesson.

Newsflash: better have a potential rapist sit at home playing a rape sim than out on the streets raping people. But of course laws are not about common sense. Have they consulted behavioral psychologists?
Then again, the games are out there already, the streisand effect is in full swing so demand is boosted. Fan made games like these are quite common, so while quality may not be the best, the content is out there.

GTA Banned because you murder polygonated people? Christ... If sick people that like to rape can do it in a game, I mean, that's better than having them bored in the streets... right?

Keeping criminals busy in their lifestyles simulated in games has limits, note that crime does go up during city or state wide blackouts. No electricity, no games!

Also like the argument on the condom issue, would most criminal prefer experiencing the real thing? Something to think about, right?

Simulated experience only feeds the problem further. Proof? Just look at the games releases, each new release included graphic improvements on graphic violence, the market demand increased on the violent side.

"Keeping criminals busy in their lifestyles simulated in games has limits, note that crime does go up during city or state wide blackouts. No electricity, no games!"

Sounds like a perfectly good argument against wind power to me.

"Also like the argument on the condom issue, would most criminal prefer experiencing the real thing? Something to think about, right?"

So? Most criminals would also prefer not to experience the real slammer.

"Simulated experience only feeds the problem further. Proof? Just look at the games releases, each new release included graphic improvements on graphic violence, the market demand increased on the violent side."

People enjoying simulated violence is not a problem.

In order for violent games to pose a real problem for society this simulated violence has to somehow increase real violence.

If you take a gander at violent crime statistics you'll see that they're the lowest in recorded history, so that's not an easy argument to make, but your welcome to try(at the risk of looking stupid).

Not my cup of tea, but what next...killing someone in a game has gotta be worse than rape, right.

Well the sentences are anyway...

So why not ban that...

Actually why not ban role play all together shall we.

"If you take a gander at violent crime statistics you'll see that they're the lowest in recorded history, so that's not an easy argument to make, but your welcome to try(at the risk of looking stupid)."

I get statistic numbers thrown at me like everybody else, they in fact indicate that crime is down. These statistics are based on what constitutes a crime TODAY, yesterday's crimes has suddenly become like the latest fashion, it's not a crime any more on many issues. Exactly, the moral bar is lowered and allot of [what was considered violent crimes back then] unreported and reported are non-starters in court, this is a nice padding for the statistics.

Oh by the way, I was personally affected by what I saw as a violent crime but was considered by the LAW as normal and acceptable. Not if it was 25 year before the occurrence of it.

I guess I was born to late, imagine that, your birth determines the level of protection you will get by the law.
I should have told the cop I wasn't born yesterday. But according to the STATISTICS, even that wouldn't hold in court.

Just out of curiosity, where are you and what crimes exactly are you talking about?

Historically speaking, laws have gotten harder particularly on violence against women and children, and their enforcement has gone up even if it isn't up to par yet.

If that isn't the case in your corner of the world I would seriously consider moving.

I was referring to the toleration of bullying. The more the police and the law let it slide, the more the repetition and escalation.

The solution to this was to introduce martial arts clubs and class that appeared as legitimate businesses, that's right instil more violence to kids to defend against the bullies? Talk about stooping down to their level.

An arms race at the personal level.

Maritime Canada, the most peaceful you would think, but not completely. But to avoid another kind of slow crawling sinister violence [abject poverty] I had to move to a more violent place. One of the large cities. Should I be considering Antarctica?

A few days ago, my brother, like he preaches the statistics to me all the time, well that day, when he exited the house, the police in the street immediately shouted at him "BACK IN THE HOUSE!" Gun drawn.

Did notice new faces not in school and not having on them what would be considered store bought school gear.

Word definitely got around that my neighbourhood is rich. What a sad case of desperation, I view the area as quality not rich, keeping this quality all our funds are spoken for, someone just mention the word rich and images of people wearing bling and bulging pockets walking in the streets are dancing in their heads.

Local crime where I live has increased %185, of course that stat was limited to bank robberies. Just wait, after measures are taken against these, the switch to home invasions and personal crime will rise, oil to water.

All the years living in the area, I got my first taste of live cop action while the overall statistics are going down?

Nah, bad medicine like these statistics just doesn't work with me.

Be careful supporting people who say rape in video game promotes real life rape. They use the same argument against violence. Do you want violence banned in games? Without violence we'd have none of the greats such as Halo, GTA, Half-Life, Bioshock, Civ, C&C ...

I know rape is deplorable but someone simulating cartoon rape on their pc is not going to cause any extra. If it does influence someone they were going to do it anyway. A person that easily influenced shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.

Just as it seemed rape was finaly becoming accepable Japan goes and does something totaly stupid and probably sets the movement back 20 years.

Damn you Japan. Damn you to hell.

This reminds me of Babylon, when the King was collecting religions by conquest and centralizing them in Babylon, after a while Babylon fell and all the religions spread abroad, now we have thousands of religions by multiplicity.

The purpose of me using this example is not morality, but the idea of how something spread and multiplied. After this happened, statistically there was no or little religions left in Babylon.

Now as to violence, the same is occurring, the N.I.M.B.Y. stands for "Not In My Back Yard" In New York City Mayor Juliani vowed to Clean the city, there was even an unconfirmed ploy in the news on how they would go about it.

The supposed ploy was: The city criminals viewed the authorities like the police as the enemy so it was said they were using this against them by getting more police cars all around not necessarily having a real policemen driving them.

Whatever they did, was successful in the effect the current politicians wanted, yes N.I.M.B.Y. Like Babylon's religions in Babylon there was a great reduction in crime in the city. Watching the news it was confirmed the criminals spread into the suburbs.

That is hardly a meaningful way to reduce crime, a reduction in statistics by demographics yes, but not crime.

Containment of crime has become so expensive, that they are resorting to this? While we are told to be satisfied with a hypocrite style of freedom dogging bullets and neighbourhoods when moving.

I think this article and I guess the legislation should really be expanded to look at all video games. Why should any one government draw the line at this rapegame when there are so many others that advocate mass killing. That being said, I am sincerely tempted to try out this game, it sounds almost so ridiculous I can't imagine it exists. I found an interesting discussion on the matter at Pandalous. It can be found here at http://www.pandalous.com/nodes/ban_on_violent_computer