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AMD shows off DX11 silicon
AMD GAVE COMPUTEX VISITORS a bit of a treat this morning in Taipei at its press conference by showing off the world's first demo of DX11 graphics silicon, which is suspected to be the forthcoming RV870 GPU.
The demo, aptly dubbed "Knight" - as in AMD's knight in shining armour we assume - was probably the biggest news to emerge from AMD in awhile and was all the more special for its heavy use of tessellation technology, which apparently allows for more realistic and detailed surfaces.
Both TSMC and Global Foundries reps were present at the event, although, sadly, both firms were on their best behaviour, so there were no daggers drawn at dawn in Taipei today.
TSMC presented its new DX11 wafer - probably in a desperate bid to assert its confidence that it can indeed deliver the goods with its leaky 40nm process.
Tom Sonderman of GloFo flashed his firm's latest wares around, presenting AMD senior VP Pat Patla with an Istanbul wafer. Sonderman also gave the audience a rundown of GloFo's activities both present and future including bits and bobs about its plans for competing in graphics at 28nm and the firm's new process tech.
Microsoft's corporate VP for OEMs, Steve Guggenheimer, showed up to demo Windows 7 "drag and drop" functionality. And HP's sales director also took to the AMD stage to talk about the firm's new dual core DV2 laptops, which we hope will perform better than its current batch of rather sluggish, overheating and noisy portables.
AMD also waxed lyrical about its commitment to ultraportables, which, to be honest, don't seem to pack the same punch Intel's do, but the proof will be in the ultrathin pudding we suppose. Finally, Pat Patla, AMD's VP of server products gushed on for a bit about how Istanbul is great. µ
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The 4870x2 is an excellent card.The card, if not bottlenecked, will play everything at 24" resolution on max setts and AA.The X2 cards are AMD's way to build a high end GPU....
As for Nvidia, it needs to:
1-stop funding/creating all these hardware "reviewing" sites that are filling the web.We need true competetition, not fabricated benchmarks all over the web....
2-start being honest about their packaging problems instead of selling chips that that have high probability of failing.
3-Stop bribing video game companies for the pure purpose of harming competition.
We need Nvidia, Intel and AMD for the competition to keep going.Im not a fanboi of any of them.Im on a Core I7 platform with a Radeon 4870 TOXIC.I buy the best i find that fits my needs and pocket.
Best wishes.
The title is beyond the pale.
I'm surprised to see this. I thought AMD employees where under their cube crying screaming Nvidia's name. I know AMD fanboys are. LOL
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and Obvious Charlie troll is obvious.
that's exactly what we need, although i've done something else this time and got 4870X2 which isn't a cheap card, but i got mine from scan for £240 - that's the same i paid for gts8800 512 more than year ago. Nvidias aren't bad but they really suck in normal price levels.
To NVRawks:
The best GPUs? Since when?
As long as i remember,ATI, since the 9000 series, had had the lead until the 2000 series where they realy screwed things up.
ATI, since the 3000 series, decided to go for the crowd not the crown.Building affordable GPUs was the target.
The 3000 sereis Radeons were pretty good.The RV670 measured about 180mm^, which made the 3800 series cards very cheap to produce.The 3870 was almost on par with the 8800gt that measured about 320mm^....So die size/performance of the 3870 is over 70% of that of the 8800gt.
The RV770 is a different story.The 4870 managed to directly compete with the gtx280 with even smaller than half its die size......
[url=http://techreport.com/articles.x/14990] 4870 vs gtx280 [/url]
The 4890, the last to come from the RV770, is on par or even faster than the gtx285 in most games, esoecially the DX10.1 ones...Check the 4890 review from anandtech or xbitlabs...not HardOCP, Bjorn3D, Hardwarecanucks.....and other nvidia's sponsored sites.....
So when it comes to the best GPUs, you need to reconsider your standards.
building an affordable chip that will produce affordable cards with excellent performance is what we, customers, need.
Cake is a lie.
Okay... It seems kinda obvious that no one recalls that ATI (and nVidia) are both supposed to use .NET framework-based control panels to support their graphics card configurations. This was forced on them by Microsoft as part of the jump to Vista.
Just figured I'd remind people where the blame lies there...
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I adobe thee Dame Ruby ACDCSHE. Now Bring Me the Head of Charlie Brown. What's he hiding under that make-up?
Lady Companion of the Most Noble order of the Garter and other such Capers, now a Templar Nun having the accolade: the order of the secret monitor. Lux e tenebris vide_ DX11 *stars*.
We know this because the Guardian tells us so in 1791 SC...
A word to the wise: a bare bones as good to a skulltrail as both are skeletal in nature.
Yeah, well, the good thing about the mob is they keep giving you second chances.
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I try to read her mind
She's on the straight and narrow
I'm guessing all the time
But I can't see the road
If I'm looking at the signs
I'm carrying a load
And stepping out of line
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Will no one help the widow's son?
Found these advanced cards are Much better in subtle ways. by collecting lot of low cost breakage & mistakes, ended up with crummy rca video from vga port that defective signal converter, YET it was half price then, Worse it dosn't wear out.
So got used to testing it on various cards, 5500,6200,X800,X300,v.3100 FGL & 4770.Now maybe iffies of few extras are not issue with 4870, probably need one, to connect to 4770. My extra point, is HD4770 automatically adjusts fine line dis[paly to common 19" standard TV fine, so it has place for Large trannie count & 11, well even more, more. Tri Cor Tomas', ?PreMulti or....?.
it dispalys entire page width & not recognizes RV display converter as 2nd port, so its from inside 4770, Best tv page at TOP card Resolution its ever functioned for this machine. Dx10.1
It's true, Nvidia drivers are the greatest reason for bsod in vista, I can testify to that, but ATI drivers followed swift. Besides the numbers of that survey weren't relative to the number of drivers installed, so it's a hasty conclusion.
Good thing Charlie didn't write this news , because more commentors/fanbois would be bashing the messenger rather than reading the message.
Yes, I've read that something like 30% of reported Vista BSODs (in 2008?) were because of imature nV drivers.
I'm sure that ATI caused some also but, no where nearly as much.
Having said this, both companies have been constantly working since then to make them usably stable.
*patiently awaiting HD5670 vs GT350(tree-fiddy!)*
When a court order forced Microsoft to reveal the truth in open court, it turned out that the SINGLE BIGGEST CAUSE OF BSOD IS THE NVIDA DRIVER
That's the facts jack and no amount of pussy footing around with fanbois opinion can change it
The number 1 source for info has laid the BSOD blame for dodgy drivers FIRMLY where it belongs - and nVidia are not about to deny it
I read elsewhere that DX11 will also be made available for Vista users. Microsoft are playing a more friendly game these days.
Most of my games are legacy and all of those require Catalyst AI disabled to run with a 3870X2. Some of those still dont work right with the X2 expecially rendering text in games. ATI have know about it for ages and still it isnt fixed. Point being I will never get another X2 ever again because the buggers just dont work right. No reviews will tell you this, you have to find out by bitter experience.
I am amazed at the way ATI put all this effort into their silicon and then let the whole thing down with crap drivers.
.NET is I agree a PIT.A . Also you have this crazy profile system and you have to dick about with custom shortcuts and stuff to get them working per game if you want to avoid endless tweaking of the hella clunky CCC interface, and you do want to avoid that its slow to load and does weird shit when you try to change stuff, you have to OK every tweak. The profile manager is also incredibly clunky and for some reason is a seperate overlay to the CCC. It just isnt done right.
I havent tried an nV driver for many years but both manufacturers interfaces used to be better than ATIs is today.
FWIW
They used to be pretty terrible before they started the Catalyst program. I have had ATI drivers make my systems unbootable requiring me to boot into recovery mode just to disable the drivers.
Also, CCC is still pants (thanks .NET!). Use ATI Tray Tools instead.
The delicious *caek* is a lie.
The delicious *caek* is a lie.
The delicious *caek* is a lie.
you don't install CCC. Why did they choose to build it on .NET?? Bad move.
Funny, I've never had any problems with ATI drivers since I've had their video cards. It's funny how people state that they suck. Maybe you have some sort of configuration issue with your computer. I've been using ATI cards for over 7 years and haven't had any issues.
Always had trouble with them on the development side :(. Never using one of those again. They should get nvidia do write their damn drivers!
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
Competition is good AMD gains market share and makes nVidia lower there prices to take it back.I have used both nVidia and ATI video cards. I don't care who makes the best bang for the buck that's what i will buy.
Corolla: yes, because after the competition is gone, AMD will surely shower us with excellent new cheap hardware on daily basis. Also there's a cake.
Hopefully those babies put a nail in nvidias coffin.
Huh?
What does Nvidia have to do with an AMD press event with presentations by AMD partners showcasing AMD products? Are you unhappy they didn't take a moment to bash the competition?
nVidia is not for sale anymore??