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New HDMI cable standard comes out

Another set of wires
Fri May 29 2009, 13:45

THE CONSORTIUM of companies that creates standards for high-definition multimedia interface (HDMI) cables has just announced a new specification, called HDMI 1.4.

HDMI cables built to the new standard, which should become available early next year, will add an Ethernet channel so you can connect devices such as an HDTV and game console to the world wide wibble.

The new HDMI specification also increases its data exchange rate. Who knows, maybe data-intensive 3-D televisions might finally take off. µ

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HDMI Kerfuffle

I guess I am happy I didn't buy that $1k reciever with hdmi ports yet ;)

posted by : Smoop, 31 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Which 3rd world country?

Well if it's in "inches" and "feet" it must be the Americans? Not sure who else uses that backwards system. All there 'tools' are like that too, just so you have to buy American standard tools to fix whatever.
Us stupid Aussies bent over backwards and bought Tiger tanks for the Army. Then we had to outfit all of our workshops again, with both set's of tools. You should see what else we had to get to support those beasts in the field. Fuel tankers and workshops basically have to follow them around lol.

posted by : Minotaur, 31 May 2009 Complain about this comment
New HD standard cable for new hardware to plug it to

Think future = you hook your NEW HDMI cable and hardware (which soon will be only stuff you can buy)to the internet to do some online activation so you can watch the new HD movies or music dvd's you bought. Just like Games online activations and OS online activations. Won't that be great ? (for the movie/music corporations that is)That what they could be doing for the future ,you never know.

posted by : DRM tired, 30 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Screw loose

Measured in "inches" and "feet", no screws to fix the cable, copy protection for a monitor cable, and on top of that a protection money scheme? Which 3rd world country came up with that business model?

posted by : Morons among US, 30 May 2009 Complain about this comment
READ the new Standard before you complain about it!

Seems a lot of people are trashing the new standard here without first reading about it. HDMI and DisplayPort are all about responding to the market's need..err WANT for higher bandwidth video systems. DisplayPort has already replaced DVI and is being pushed to replace VGA but VGA supporters (3rd world countries mostly) are crying about it so it stays for now...still. DP is also geared to replace internal LVDS this ALL is meant to reduce the costs of the overall system (hello!). Costs up front are always high but will always go down as demand increases. HDMI and DisplayPort are currently marketing to two separate markets but they really want the whole world. Kind of reminds me of the ATI vs. Nvidia seesaw which btw. benefits us all! So quit crying and accept the fact that We need higher bandwidth monstorous displays running off of 100ft digital cables with no video noise or lag issues!

posted by : Monitorman, 30 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Bend over

Great, why do Hollywood execs think that playing at being an amateur electrical engineer is a good idea? If BluRay's fantastic attachment rate is any guide, DVDs using analog cables are about as much trouble with DRM as the average person will tolerate. Not that coming up with a stronger encryption method than the trivially easy to break, HDCP, the 40-bit encryption scheme currently in use by HDMI would have been a good idea. Even DisplayPort can use better encryption than HDCP, and DisplayPort will never be used on a CE device like an LCD TV. Cracking HDCP is a bit pointless though, most movie pirates would rather crack and transcode the encrypted data already on the disc. Better quality that way. Firewire has more or less failed on the A/V front which is a shame, because who doesn't like finding five remotes and figuring out where to connect ten types of cables, like today. The alternative might be one remote and many fewer cable types and actual user control of how the content is viewed. That would suit no one, but the end user, and in the position content providers are in the end user and only bend over and like it. If this is not a market failure that really only the government can fix in a timely manner, libertarians, I don't know what is. Now I suppose we can wait 30 years for the "market to decide", but I don't feel like waiting that long and later defining success and victory afterwards. Besides, if the government gave these jokers a good kick in the rear, it may speed things up a bit. Do you think the average consumer can do much on their own?

posted by : Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, 30 May 2009 Complain about this comment
DRM Snitch Cable

Why sure it has to be connected to the HDMI AND The NET soon or HD will not work at all . This is probably the future standard next to be Forced upon you, so that not only can it call home corporations and report all media you are playing......it can snitch you out if you play any illegal content and maybe shut you off or toast you equiptment. Thats what I see comming.

posted by : Inflatable Girlfriend, 30 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Again?!?

ME TOO! I REALLY CANNOT BELIEVE they are changing the standards again.

When they first version of the BluRay standard arrived, the features were awesome. Really. The "1.0 version" of BluRay had it all. Yes, even the "unbreakable" BD+ copy protection system, and the much hyped Java Support were part of it. Also, HDMI 1.3 had it all, too.

So, what the newer versions of BD+ and HDMI 1.4 brought in for avergage Joe? Tougher copy protection that's incompatible with old firmwares for BluRay, and... "Updated list of CEC commands" for HDMI(!!! (wikipedia's quotes, not mine).

This is PRECISELY how to take a perfectly good or good enough format and transform it into a convoluted mess. Aka by releasing a truckload of semicompatible versions, updates and add-ons that make hardware obsolete and consumers confused.

- Like Sony didn't how add-ons and semi compatible formats ruined Sega (32X, anyone?) WHILE the good old Playstation had one version for 6 freaking years, never got newer "updates" or changed the standards, yet everybody loved it.

But this was the pre-DRM Sony...

posted by : kurkosdr, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Kind of Redundant

A cat 5e or 6 cable will exceed the data transfer capabilities of HDMI. Then there's USB3.0

HDMI itself is a huge joke, a rather pathetic excuse for an interface, an object lesson on how not to design and interface. I suggest to the industry that you just use standard interfaces and forget all this homemade BS.

posted by : Martin, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Let me guess.

Stronger Digital Restrictions Management too? If I remember correctly, HDMI is just a DVI-D cord + audio but loaded with DRM in the cable.

posted by : Red Forest, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Who are these morons?

How do they spend milions of dollars creating a new spec of cable and connector that will do 'wonderful things' and then forget something really simple like -

How do we get the damn expensive cable to actually stay in the socket for more than 5 minutes of a slight breeze?

SATA and HDMI are all terrible designs of plug.

Thank god for Akasa and WD having theor own custom version with clips.

posted by : jason, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Buy n Large!

It is doubtful that any data-intensive 3-D televisions might finally take off due to HDMI 1.4. Any HDMI 1.4 cable, worth its salt, would be grounded. Pin 17 DDC/CEC Ground -- So uh, just stay the course, um... Rather than try and fix this problem, it'll just be easier for everyone to remain in space. Directive A113. Pour water on them, and they grow food - like, pizza! Try blue; it IS the new red!

posted by : Shelby Forthright, BnL CEO, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Most cables are cheap.

Like others have said, they're not expensive. You're just paying for an expensive one. It all depends on where you're buying them. All digital cables are the same for your uses. $8.99 for a 6ft HDMI cable at various online outlets.

posted by : Amarbar, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Cost

You can pick up HDMI cables at Fry's for $12 at a bin near the front of the store (chicago area) last time I checked.

If you purchase USB/Ethernet/AV cables at a Best Buy then you must be in a rush. Even Best Buy employee's know their retail prices for these items are terrible.

posted by : Christopher, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Not again...

My only complain is the COST of that cable. Last time I paid $79.99 @ BestBuy crap store. So maybe the next one will cost like $100.00 + dollars at the same place... Sh!@##$ ahh the world of Tech ;b

posted by : Gerald, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Worthless

Why do this? So you have Ethernet through a new Monstrously priced cable? Whatever is at the other end of the cable will still need an Ethernet connection of its own AND will have to function as a router to handle the traffic to the other end of the HDMI connection. Why not just add an RJ-45 (dirt cheap) and standard (dirt cheap) cable (and or add wireless) and be done with it, possibly at gigabit speeds.

It's my understanding the next generation of Firewire, S3200, which will be able to operate over good old coax. Why can't the industry move to this and get rid of HDMI cables, one of the most obscenely priced consumer products on the market...

posted by : Rich, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
@ Rich

I bought a 25ft HDMI v1.3 cable for less then $10 shipped. It's no one's fault, but your own, that you don't shop around and buy into the hype that there is any real difference between brands when it comes to digital cables.

posted by : wTheOnew, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
@Zepth

Your looking at it from the IT angle- HDMI as it is (1.3) provides the performance high-end home-cinema demands and that is 1080p and 7.1 lossless surround. Im an early adopter and HDMI as it is provides all that I want.

So get down off that horse and look at the real world applications.

posted by : Duncan, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
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posted by : vondrashek, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Not again

Once again, a new HDMI standard renders older unit obsolete. Good thing I haven't bought all this HDMI hype in it's infancy, which appears to be still now.

posted by : Zepth, 29 May 2009 Complain about this comment
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