AMD to get DX11 cards out this year

Any idea how many watts these bad boys will consume? I sure hope it's leveling out or even dropping from past trends!

Are you sure about this, Sylvie? I thought AMD would stick to TSMC until the 32 nm process node, at least.

As for the cards themselves, my guess is that the hypothetical HD 5850 will be based on the RV870 too, while the RV840 or RV830 or whatever they call it will power the (just as hypothetical but probable) HD 5670/5650.

stained panties (software) on immature buttocks (hardware) is what you'll get.

gt300 will save us from these, once again.

"Nvidia had better hope and pray that TSMC can patch up its leaky 40nm bucket in time to catch up."
Why? Most games are not even supporting the resource hogging DX 10 now. Fallout 3 comes to mind and it looks great under DX9. DX 10 was used as a muscle move by Microbloat to try and force gamers into Vista when it first came out, remember?
MS paid off or convinced a couple companies to publish DX10 only games. That lasted about one time and the publishers took a hit and told MS to go forth and screw themselves. Now only a handful of games support DX10 most staying with 9. Maybe MS will force DX 11 inti Windows 7 like they did with Vista and DX 10. The fanboys will run out and get their new ATI DX 11 cards and pay Microbloat hundreds more for the Ultimate 7 version so they can brag all about their rig but will not have any games to run on it for a while. No thank you, XP Home is running my stuff just fine.
Games for windows live is another MS control everything scheme that game developers are quickly learning is not in their best interest to use. Bioware got slammed for being Microbloats bitch with Mass Effect on the 360 only to start with not to mention using Sony's SecuRom and Bethesda is now learning what it is like to business with MS with Fallout 3 and the Games for Windose live service and agreeing to be a MS bitch.
Bioware has learned their lesson and has announced their new game, Dragon Age will only require basic disk check, no online authentication required!
God, I hate MS and their we want to own the world mentality.

First time I read that the next-gen of 40nm chips are going to be made at Global Foundries' Dresden fab.

AFAIK, GF will be moving from 45nm to 32nm. There is no 40nm process in the works. Also, one can't directly compare stated manufacturing processes at TSMC and GF or Intel. There are differences.

Please enlighten us Sylvie.

You might want to find out what DX10 was rather useless in its final version. The original DX10 was essentially what DX11 will now be, AMD had a fully compliant dx10 part ready to go but Nvidia made a huge cock up, could only support 1/2 features of the then DX10 and basically forced MS to removed several key features. We then ended up with a limp DX10 that offered little to no improvement. AMD could support dx10.1 out the box which is again, what dx10 was originally supposed to be and has 90% of the functionality of DX11, the few games with dx10.1 support show significant improvements on ati hardware, which is what dx10 was always supposed to do.

The reason companies abandoned, or made pointless dx10 games, is originally, before MS was forced to castrate dx10, it would have provided very real performance benefits for every single title that used it. Once it became complete castrated, dx10 offered little benefit to anyone at all. Because it offered very few area's of improvement very few people took the effort to do very much with it.

DX11 WILL offer performance improvements, we've already seen that from dx10.1 games, Nvidia should finally support all the features and because of the very real performance improvements games developers will make a very real move to supporting dx11 properly and quickly as making a game run faster is helpful. Right now for most games dx10 means writing a whole bunch of extra code, a whole extra set of bugs, whole extra cycles of debugging, for no tangible benefit. When there is a benefit, there will be no company that won't use it.

if it wasn't for MS giving in to the larger market share Nvidia back then, far more games would use dx10 right now with real performance benefits and AMD would have a boost in performance in many of those titles.

I don't think AMD will bring out their GPU products from Global Foundries in 2009-2010. First reason for this is the tools. Global foundry is currently on SOI tools while, classic GPUs are on Copper Interconnect. AMD will use TSMCs 40nm process for RV870.

for each blooming card.

RV870 = 5870 ...why?
RV840 = 5850 ...what!?

Just call it one name and stop confusing everyone.

Wattage should be up across the board, but not insanely so. Supposedly they're just tacking on 25% more SPs at the high end, giving the whole thing a tune-up, and putting it on a more efficient (hopefully) process. It should look a lot like a scaled up HD 4770.

Wowzer, these awesome ATI engineering types just keep getting better and better

Sure hope that all of their old colleagues going to Apple doesn't mean that nVidia will lose all of their existing SKUs within 24 months :~o

I'm heading back to Chequers Pizza and Ribs to sink my sorrows in a triple choc sundae (and just pretend it's me boss's buttocks!)

to remind myself why I dont bother to read the INQ any more.

"Nvidia had better hope and pray that TSMC can patch up its leaky 40nm bucket in time to catch up."

But isn't AMD also using exactly the same TSMC 40nm process for the RV870? Conveniently forgot to mention that didn't we?

Such a shame that the Inq simply cant write a single article about GPUs without some flame, sideswipe or other barb against nVidia somewhere.

And BTW its obviously the same 'reporter' writing as both Charlie and Sylvie. The same unprofessional, all-too-predicatable and ultimately boring warp of everything into an anti-nVidia rant makes that clear.

Send me an email after this clown has been fired then I'll start reading the Inq again.

1. If you don't bother to read the Inq, why do you bother us? Stay away then!
2. ATi(Not AMD, ATI is all GPU) has a chip that's half the size of nVidias gt300. Leakage gets harder to manage with size so it will affect nVidia more than ATi. See fex rv740 which is tiny compared to the (rumoured) gt300 and it performs adequately even on 40nm process.
3. Only a nVidiot would interpret this article as an pro-ATi/anti nVidia story. This is facts. Plz go away, don't call, well call you.(not)
4. Same author? Take your pill. Have you seen pictures of Sylvie? She is actually quite cute :) Charlie on the other hand is quite a nerd.(no offence)

DM.. I call bs, when DX10 came out ATI's cards couldn't run any of these "simple" (a.k.a. lacking DX10.1 features)" games at any playable FPS. Nvidia sure could though. If anything they made sure they released a spec that was doable with existing (not 2 years later) future vaporware. ATI has some really nice cards out now, but give credit where it's due, ATI's initial DX10 offerings sucked, they were not ahead.

"Nvidia had better hope and pray that TSMC can patch up its leaky 40nm bucket in time to catch up" Why just Nvidia? Seen any 4770's for sale lately? Didn't think so.

Bounty: yes, and there is plenty of them (IN STOCK):
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Check the others:
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I thought it was just Direct3D 11.
Is it handling DirectInput,
DirectMusic, and DirectSound too ???

How is this anything new? You've been reporting the same "news" for months now. AMD will have DX11 parts available in 2009, ok we get it, you don't need to write a dozen source-less articles about it.

The first code (RV870) is just the GPU itself. Once you add a PCB, some vRAM, output jacks, HSF assembly, etc, it becomes a Radeon HD 5870 graphics card.

Where are you all reading info on GlobalFoundries and the manufacturing process in the article above? I've re-read it three times now and can find no reference to GF (GlobalFoundries) or a 40nm process.

As a result, I just can't work out why a lot of you have made the comments above. Unless you're referring to a linked article or something, I think you need to learn to stick to the actual information given on the page, otherwise people just won't grasp why you're making certain comments.

What the hell is jizzhalls.at? If they are in stock I can't tell, I don't speak swahili nor do I have any krone on me. At real retailers like Newegg (where they speak the same language you and I are using) they're out.

It's not just where I shop either...
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/13855/1 It's like reliving this article again, but with more info.

yup.