Russians clone Macs again

Do you think they'll ship to the UK?

I am very happy to hear this, lets hope a Mac cloning company starts out in the UK as well.

I'll be in Moscow next week - how many do you want?

...looks like they've got it running on an EEE PC too. If they can do it, why can't apple?

So now let's get the Chinese into this and let's sit back and watch job's shitfit himself a golden brick. I haven't updated my MacBook pro because this stuff is just too damn expensive, especially in the recession.

I, for one, look forward to my new red apple cloned friend.

They can do it cus they are Russian. They can do anything and probably some Russian wrote half the OSX code anyway.

What a bunch of looters you twits are.
I hope you all lose your jobs becase someone steals your employer product or service. You only feel this way becase you, your self have never produced anything of value and dont have the drive to create.

I think the objection is to Apple's refusal to sell OSX on it's own for anybody to use without forcing you to buy apple hardware. Maybe it's legal for them to do so but that's a big turn off for lots of people. I don't want mac hardware. Plain and simple.

One of the fundamental principles of democracy is the right of the sovereign Government of a country to make its own laws. If a foreign government chooses not to enforce software copyright, they have that right, and no other democratic country can complain without violating the principles of the system it claims to support. If their own law allows copyright to be "violated", then they are doing nothing wrong under their system.

I like OSX, I just don't want to buy outdated, overpriced hardware to run it on. Especially as Apple are whacking a steep premium on the kit sold here (Australia) over and above the difference in Exchange Rate.

I can buy and ship Apple kit from North America for 10-30% cheaper than I can buy it from the Apple store here.

I'm very happy to see this mob providing non-apple hardware running OSX. I wonder if they will ship to Australia?

You just let it all out. Release the pain.

Your comment has made me want to steal OSX.
Just because.

I'll never use the POS, but I'll take it anyway.

It's a substitute for my drive to create.

"...and no other democratic country can complain without violating the principles of the system it claims to support."

Was that the sound of the UN, embassies, ambassadors and thousands of years of diplomacy disappearing in a puff of ignorance?

Who is the looter here? Isn't it Apple who stole BSD and bastardized it into the so called OSX so it can run on a bastardized version of the IBM PC? Apple did nothing creative. It is not creative to tweak the work of others in order to lock it down and make it proprietary. Apple is a snake oil salesman. Some of us knew that from day one, others got suckered before they realized the game. Those poor souls are being helped by the Russian company in question. I see only positives in this development.

Looters? You ought to get your facts straight. Why don't you spend a quick minute on Google and find out for yourself where pretty much all of the OS X code-base comes from?

Oh wait, never mind... let me assist you here to get your uninformed bum up-to-date... quite literally all of the OS X code-base comes from Unix/BSD.

In essence Apple has done is after getting their paws on Unix, a free operating system by the way, they have decided to slap a "fancy" interface onto it and sell it to consumers.

"Isn't it Apple who stole BSD and bastardized it into the so called OSX so it can run on a bastardized version of the IBM PC? Apple did nothing creative. It is not creative to tweak the work of others in order to lock it down and make it proprietary."

I haven't heard it said better in a long while. Both OSX and Windows have their roots in stolen/bought code and stolen/copied ideas. As Steve Jobs once said "good artists copy, great artists steal".

As Steve Jobs once said "good artists copy, great artists steal".

Got that right!! Look what they 'acquired' from Xerox PARC back in the beginning:

1: Point&Click GUI
2: WYSIWYG word processing
3: Bit-mapped graphics
4: Alto (inspired the Mac)

To be fair, Xerox never patented those things & traded them to Apple for stock, but the Apple tried to tell the public that Apple developed those technologies & tried to sue Microsoft for doing to Apple what Apple did to Xerox!

BTW - 'UNIX' is not "free". It is patented & copyrighted...used to be by Bell labs, then eventually to SCO now maybe Novell. I've lost track.

Linux (and I think BSD) is free.

regards,
Jeff

http://www.psystar.com/

i don't like mac personally but a few friends have picked up a pro from psystar and they absolutely love it!!

"Cloning" Macs wasn't what it once was when builders had to create their own hardware copy of Apple's properietary design.

Now that Apple has shifted to an Intel platform, any PC motherboard that's up to spec, and a bit of industrious googling is enough.

I don't see the news value here. Perhaps it will be followed by a story that piracy (my goodness!) exists in Russia.

My native language is russian, but I didn't find any hint on the site, that OSX on computers that they sell is licensed copy. I've only found the phrase "Computers are provided with the pre-installed version of OSX Leopard. The price of distribution kit is not included in the price of the computer. Though,in accordance with your desire, we can provide the licensed retail version of OSX for additional 5950 rubles."

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frussianmac.ru%2F&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

23,800.00€, and for a Clone?!?!
That should get you quite a few Dell's and perhaps a small Car as well...

Assuming that Google Translate sucks at differentiating between Russian Rubles (RUB) and the Euro Dollar (EUR)...

Then 23,800.00(RUB) would be about ~548.00€(EUR).

That sounds allot better!! ^_^

As Steve Jobs once said "good artists copy, great artists steal".

It wasn't Steve Jobs who said that.
It was Picasso who said it first.