US Army will move to Vista

TBH I agree with them. XP is shite stop saying its any good it sawks.

Go figure. The news aren't too reassuring, China develops an 'unbreakable' OS while it rolls out Red Flag linux in key agencies.
Meanwhile the US does what? Get it's ships hacked? Install Vista?

I do NOT like the idea of having the strongest army on the world at the mercy of hackers.

Vista is utter shite, I have lately tried it with core 17, 8GB RAM, and a 4870x2 and it still runs like crap.
Fans constantly on twice as much as XP,with all the aero crap disabled

Sure MS are going to tell you Vista's great, its all spin.
They dont mention the number of vistas reinstalled to XP.
XP aint too pretty, but its a lot easier to lock down/customize/secure.

Most of my time spent on computers is either gaming or browser based, so I dont need some bloated piece of crap eating up my cycles and pushing up my leccie bill, just so I have some new sounds/icons/wallpapers.

Take any laptop that runs vista badly, take out half of the ram, install XP and it goes like lightning.

There goes the security of the military. Anyone will be able to hack in even easier. Did not the fbi just have problems with viruses? Another reason to move to opensource instead,

Vista or Xp or Windows 7...people are still going to execute malicious code successfully. As long as they have a strong security policy in place the ARMY will be fine.

Major features of Vista have to be gutted by MS before installation. You don't have the DRM software, WGA, MS spyware, or the windows media player. MS isn't allowed direct access from Redmond to these machines. Install is probably under 150mb. It is more like an updated W2K. It is what Vista should have been without the bloat. Call it Vista Lite.

The US military are so used to making mistakes and losing wars changing to Vista is no surprise.

I am actaully employed at an Army base in Maryland and am part of the team of people that are getting this role out done. We are using Vista Enterprise that has gone through a heavy molding of security settings that have been changed. Only fairly minor things were stripped like games or messaging software. The installation is still pretty close to normal size, in the multi-gig range, way larger then 150Mb.

And while I don't know what some people are doing wrong, but Vista does in fact not "suk". We run our version, which in fact has several pieces of extra software installed for various security purposes, on several year old Dell Optiplex GX620s, Pent D 930s, 2gig of RAM for the most part just fine. The newer 745 and 755 models run great. If it is running slow on an i7 with 8 gigs of ram and such, I call user error.

As for security, as much as we try, breechs happen. However, they are always traced back to human error. Some one went to the wrong site, clicked the wrong thing, opened the wrong attachment. Even the best laid Windows setup is no match for a stupid user. I, along with many other tech types like myself, have zero problems with crashing, viruses or malware in general. I'm less inclined to blame the OS for secutiry fears as I am the average user.

The biggest issue we have is that it is different. Humans are creatures of habbit and when something they are used to is altered, they get upset. Honest to God, once we get users adjusted and trained, after a few weeks the statements is always more or less, "Oh, this windows isn't so bad." We could make it look like XP I suppose but the Amry Gold version wasn't setup that way, so we don't. I just think it is amusing the terrible stigma Vista has.

No, I'm not a Windows fanboy, I don't get paid by Microsoft, and I do also use opensource in certain places. Fedora 10 for the record.

with vista in the us army we don't have to worry about skynet for the next couple of years :p

Its simple move forward or stay in the dark ages. Embrace change or get in your tar pit. I ran Vista in beta on my previous system a dual core Athlon FX-60 (939) with 2GB of DDR 400 - it ran without a hitch.

Windows 7 exposes several inefficiencies in Vista - being the first OS to require fewer resources that its predecessor. My current system Q6600 8GB DDR2 800 runs much smoother under Windows 7 than it did under Vista.

Tech is no country for old men. History shows time and time again holding on to the past will bite you in the ass sooner or later. An ideal OS leverages the power of the hardware.

Consider this: 32-bit memory address space limits accessible RAM to 3.5GB total. Factor in the amount of memory newer games and applications require or at the very least perform best with. Then consider video ram - the 4870x2 has 2GB of GDDR alone.

The picture should become clear that holding on to XP is going to hold you back. That might be OK for some but for those of us who move at the speed of thought...you suk

That explains why there are no US Army' killer robots seen on the fields yet.
Probably they can't get stable enough drivers for Windows...

CD 05 00
(CALL 5)

http://www.digitalresearch.biz/CPM.HTM
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/poll/22/windows-7

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Shame they don't have the guts to utilize VMS.

Army Vista

Major features of Vista have to be
gutted by MS before installation. You don't have the DRM software, WGA, MS
spyware, or the windows media player.
MS isn't allowed direct access from
Redmond to these machines. Install is probably under 150mb. It is more like an updated W2K. It is what Vista
should have been without the bloat.
Call it Vista Lite.

Excellent. That's what I need. Do you have a bit-torrent link for that?!
Cheers!

Well, AS Commander of GOD, its hard to believe something dumb like army would open up to virtualization, according to TOP SECRET documents I'm now viewing, "OUR" records indicate you have met you limit & need to buy more tickets.

Dial CCCP & Hold You Breathe(their OUT There, LISTENING), its funny anything claiming importance throw hole Jewel out window to AnyOne to Exaim. Even Clintons wouldn't doDat. HAHAHA, Commander of GOD, They believe Me,Opps....

Yet Soldiers Arn't religious, their paranoid about likelyhood of Escape.

No MAPS till YOU Buy More Tickets. Worshet Drashek, ALL Orders of Day.

Release Army Virus 10013,64-8....STAT.

Justin the number you are referring to is the full deployment number which includes things like LandWarNet, a highly modified IE and Outlook, Office 2007 modified, weather, clock, GPS, logistics and several other changes that are counter intuitive for regular MS users. That includes a bunch of G-6 addins. Army News says:"But the new tools interface is not always intuitive and many reviews say there's a steep learning curve...The Army Golden Master program is responsible for the release of the Army standard baseline configurations for commonly used computing environments within the Army Enterprise Infrastructure, the team responsible for making sure applications that ran on XP will run on Vista," Army Gold is very different from Vista we buy for home/office if anything you could use for XP can be used on Vista. The commercial versions should not even be able to login to SIPR and probably not NIPRNET. My version of Autocad won't run on Vista at all.

"No Sir, General, Sir - we can't send in the tanks!"

"WTF?"

"You know, we checked this hotfix out in the lab for two weeks. No problem. Then we deployed it to the first batch of 20000 machines. On Tuesday, all the screens went blank."

"Put me through to Air Force command. And get me the coordinates to the Ballmer property."

Next week, we'll show you how the army managed to increase ROI by replacing their proprietary navigation system.

Stay tuned for "App Wars - When the Army meets the iPhone."

Good thing they listened to the NSA then and got that SE-Linux going.
Also, it isn't like they overspend and waste money so it's fine to buy all those extra licenses.

Just wait a minute I need to reboot before I bomb that target. Maybe they think the BSOD (blue screen of death) is a weapon.

It actually should be a nice for people out there to know they're moving to Vista - that the Army has some pretty cool heads behind its IT operations unaffected by the peer-group opinions of a bunch of zeitgeisty tech writers wedded to their Macs.

W7 would have been nice, but that would have likely pushed back replacement of old systems into early 2012 - by which XP should be at death's door, not just creaking as it is now.

There sure is alot of complainers of Vista. But, whats more noteable is it seems more linked to not being able to use or build a computer.

I've has less problems with Vista than XP or any OS released to date. Are you sure you know how to use or build a computer??? It's not as simple as throwing parts together. It's the quality of that also. Because, Vista isn't that hard to use. If your crashing I ask if you built in yourself. Because that tends to be the case with alot of the stories of "Vista is shiite" or "It's slow".

Maybe it's joo don't know how to build a good pc. In other words, your throwing cheap parts, bad cooling, overclocking into the mix causing your own problems. If you built it no matter what you say the word "YOU" is still in the mix of your so called Vista problem. So it may just be joo buddy. Other users that I know of who have bought it prebuilt seem to like it fine.

It's a good OS. Not great it has too much crap in it but Windows 7 seems to fix that. Been running RC fine and it's really good.

IT seems we need to go back to the good ole' days of knowing what your doing. These days we have wanna be computer punks throwing computer parts together claiming to be power users and smart. When they are dumber than a door nail and pretend to actually understand what overclocking does and throwing cheap parts at it thinking your uber.

NOT! You prove it everyday complaining about Vista is shiite. It blows up on my pc. Idiot...

Express yourself very often? Got writing skills? Got cognitive ability?

This article supports the theorem that the military is run by very special ed people.

For once I laughed reading drashek's comment and I only had to read it once too!

I'm not too worried about military machines running Vista. The military is supposed to keep their machines on isolated networks so there *shouldn't* be many security risks. Now if some idiot starts moving data using thumb drives or bridging networks that's a different story (and one hell of a reprimand too...)

Justin said "I am actaully employed at an Army base in Maryland and am part of the team of people that are getting this role out done. We are using Vista Enterprise that has gone through a heavy molding of security settings that have been changed. Only fairly minor things were stripped like games or messaging software. The installation is still pretty close to normal size, in the multi-gig range, way larger then 150Mb."

let me get this straight... multi gigabytes of software installed... just to have basic functionality of notepad, calculator, outlook, IE and paint???

all those gigabytes of code there with potential vulnerabilities...

I can get just more functionality and a damned sight more speed with damn small Linux...

I think they would rather be in Afghanistan/Iran/Iraq than trying to learn Office2007.

Army should go openoffice, it's a lot easier to use.

We have an important offer you would not reject. Well, we actually know you must not reject it. Its for your own good, and the world's. Lets put it this way, in short:

IF YOU DO NOT UPGRADE TO VISTA, WE WILL TRIGGER ALL YOUR MISSILES THAT USE OUR OWN GUIDANCE SOFTWARE TO TARGET ANY OF YOUR MILITARY BASES AND BUILDINGS, AND DESTROY THEM.

DON'T TRY TO CALL THE PRESIDENT, YOU WILL ALL BE DEAD THEN. DON'T EVEN TRY TO SHUT US DOWN, YOUR MISSILES WON'T WORK, WE ARE IMMUNE TO THEM, WE PROGRAMMED THEM THAT WAY.

So lets go easy my friends, do yourself a favour and try Vista out, and lets forget all about this. Vista is safe, its faster and better than XP. YOU DON'T HAVE any other choice anyway.

(taken from my trying-to-be-funny-factory)

Ensign: Sir the enemy rockets are closing in fast! We have a lock on radar -- do we launch?

General: Yes quickly!

Ensign: Yes Sir!

<ensign

Vista UAC: Do you want to allow the following program to launch an anti- missile strike?

<ensign

Vista UAC: Anti-Missle launch program wishes to make changes to your system. Do you wish to continue ?

<ensign

Vista UAC: Are you sure ?
...
Base is blown up with a rocket

<ensign = "Ensign clicks YES"