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Wednesday, 20 May 2009, 16:49

THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SERVICE (GPS) on which satellite navigation devices rely  could begin to fail by next year, a report has warned.

The US Government Accountability Office (GAO), said that a lack of investment in satellites means that some are close to failing.

The US Air Force is said to be spending £1.3 billion to bring the US system up to date, but the GAO report says that repairs are not happening fast enough. The GPS network is run by the US military and rented by commercial firms internationally for sat-nav systems.

"It is uncertain whether the Air Force will be able to acquire new satellites in time to maintain current GPS service without interruption," said the report.

"If not, some military operations and some civilian users could be adversely affected," the GAO warned.

The only other such network in place today is the Glonass Russian satellite system, which currently has only 19 operational satellites, with 24 needed to cover the whole globe.

The US system currently has 31 satellites operating, but a number of them are more than four years past their design lifetime.

The GAO predicts a one in five chance that the fleet will drop below 24 at times in 2011 and 2012.

China hopes to have its own GPS system operational by 2011 and the EU's Galileo system, a non-military operation, is expected to have just four satellites on the network by 2011. µ

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That's just sad

WTF is wrong w/€urope?
Instead of wasting Taxpayers Cash on failing Banks, and for Toy Aircraft (e.g. €urofighter) that will never see any kind of active duty, we should be investing more into Galileo!

Ah yeah taht's right we wouldn't want to tick of the 'Merikans now would we??

SHAMEFUL

posted by : Anonymous, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
GAO IS Timed Obsolence Meance....

US GAO in Washington, Dc HAS One Method. Make People agree to Date When Building or Project IS Too OLD & Removeable. Thousands of Very Expensive Structures have been torn down, with NO replacement, due to GAO whinning & curse of: you said, you said.

Although satelites may be atomic powered, with some lifetime of Power system, GPS might be solar. For Sure, GAO Will follow route of shortest duration for Life of Anything in US
Government, How little there Actually IS, Very misunderstood by public.

Its concept that passes quickly into projects before even approved, engineered to fail Way Before Natural Time. Completely Sanitary Building Over 100 Years Old are on Match Stick of Flame, just Waiting for fire to Hit. Too Bad for Them.

Signed:Sniggles.

posted by : vondrashek, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Ruski!

Har har, when the GPS fails, Mother Russia will take over the world(with Chinese taking south) and Yanks will never see it coming.

Although maybe EU will be able to follow a plane or 2 with their 4 sats.

posted by : I know, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Grand High Master of Servitude

GPS Global Positioning System. Current Satellites emit 3 signals. L1 signal, ~1.2 Ghz, L2 ~1.6 Ghz and L3 (Military Frequency). The signals are right and left hand circularly polarized signals. By combining two diametrically opposed baseband carrier frequencies you create an interferometric signal. In other words they supposedly cancel out. But since energy can only be transmuted the signals create a longitudinal wave many call standing waves. These standing waves do not contain the electromagnetic or electrostatic component. Because this new resultant waves do not travel like the electromagnetic or electrostatic they instead travel through the nuclei of all atoms with little or no loss unless the nuclei become unstable due to the excess of energy.

What does all of this boil down to ? The signals we use for communication and whatnot cannot traverse through solid mater like the longitudinal waves or scalar waves. The incident and reflected energies from going trough one gaseous medium to a solid introduce great signal losses. The scalar waves do not have this problem. So scalar waves can travel through air, water and rock just as easily without the inherent losses that effect electromagnetic signals.

So why have I told you this. The system was originally used to prove the concept of navigation below the surface of the earth. I know what many people think about this but the fact of the matter is that this is why the system was originally created.

Say what you will their are greater forces working to create new satellites which do a lot more than advertised...

For the skeptics research on Scalar Waves is being done and most of the major universities. This is all done under wraps of secrecy and this shouldn't be so. The Scalar waves introduce forces on the nuclei of atoms which could lead to greater advances in science and ultimately to free energy. Now you know why the oil and energy companies are diametrically opposed to this research.

posted by : ron_cnxt, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Mus.Turd of Service Wrote:...

Intresting thoughts ,heres something most don't know. Radio & TV signals are electrical, in Old days Golden Sphere was used * which radiated in full sphericl output
in equal strength in every direction. Nowadays, most signals are from stick l, which radiates mostly along ground, where reception antenae are, less going to upper atmosphere. yet microwaves use satelites that beam thru atmosphere to antenae & back.

Heres point: anytime electrical charge is passed thru H2O, water atoms seperate. Signal from antenae actually splits airbourne water vapour into free hydrogen & oxygen. With proper equipment you can actually Hear hydrogen being released/exploded. Remeber that signal travels 100 miles along ground, also goes 100 miles straight up, causing atmospheric water vapour to be lost to vacum of space as hydrogen. Drying atmosphere & causing Global Warming. considerable Global Warming.

We are Told, GreenHouse Gasses are culprit, NO, CO2 just reunits with Green Plant leaf & plant takes Carbon, freeing O2 for animals to breathe.Theres NO Way CO2 will do what is being claimed,On Earth.ON Venus, Sure, Not Here.
Yet, MicroWaves Will Evaporate Atmosphere, lessing ground growth . Its quite Permanent, Too, Once Drying cycle is in place. inspite of All Water Vapor in World, Around transmitter there IS Less.Over Time, Much Less.

Radio Waves Will Not Pass thru Earth. EVER.
Also, Large Government buildings with so many rooms, usually each room Is used by actual Governmnet meeting once every 5 years, as requiremnt of little import, while same room has about 40 meeting yearly, scheduled by private groups, all issuing statements on Government LetterHeads, Pronouncing LAW That dosn' Exist in Statutory Form. Above GAO GPS May Be More Search To Cut Off Dod Navigation, that Drones On. Globasl Warming Excuse to Waste Even More limited resources & Extract Severe Cost, Its nOT Accident or Easy Solution Field.

Signed:vondronie.

posted by : vondrashek, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Whatever

Basically all of the interference that we humans put into our own atmosphere is not good for anything at all period, and is more appropriately termed pollution.
Look at lighting technology all around the world. There are virtually no focused beams at all. Inefficiency and waste are cornerstones of our so-called advanced civilization built by slaves to the technology with no real understanding of anything whatsoever.
Apparently if there are NO satellites then the world will go into darkness and calamity will reign. don't hold your breath

posted by : jhon, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Maybe if...

...the author were actually correct and people paid for GPS service this wouldn't be an issue. The reality is this is provided by the US taxpayers and used all over the world. Even so the EU is spending billions to create their own parallel system. Maybe they should just pay for one or two GPS III birds and call it good.

posted by : Colin, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
i agree....

Some other countries should chip in and put up some compatible satellites, no reason other than military to put up your own system that I can think of?

posted by : Andrew, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
US is so benevolent

They covered all the world with satellites so everybody can locate the nearest pub easily. It wasn't meant to drive it's bombs to wherever they see fancy!
And they don't charge royaties from GPS kit manufacturers for making receivers, and don't introduce noise in the signal, so it can't be used with the same precision as the military can.

posted by : Curious, 20 May 2009 Complain about this comment
How much are they making from GPS licensing?

I expect at least $5 a system. Probably sold over 200mil satnavs, so that's easily 1bil and rising rapidly.

If they aren't taking in this cash, then I'd like to know why not.

This is a massive money spinner and it only takes 24 satellites. Space is getting cheaper, Europeans, US, Russians, China, India etc are all competing for the launching of private satellites.

Those satellites only send out a few signals, that's all they do.

I bet those satellites are cheap, or they could be.

posted by : interested_party, 21 May 2009 Complain about this comment
In Support of Mus.Turd....

rEPLYING tWICE iS Unusual, yet MIT, Boddins of Century Old Technology have article today on something simlar to Ron Cnxt Abovc thought:

Create a uniform magnetic field of the same scale as a gravitational wave and place it in the path of an incoming wave. The subsequent squeezing and shaking of this magnetic field should then generate electromagnetic radiation, just as any other kind of shaking would.

The trouble is that gravitational waves have a tiny amplitude and a relatively low frequency meaning that the resultant radio waves would be mind-bogglingly weak.
To Read & Weap:

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23551/?nlid=2048

Next: Five Demensional Space for Data.

Oh,My.

posted by : vondrashek, 21 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Demoted to lowly musturd seed carpenter

I apologize for the long link and for the long video explaining Interferometry.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1206755406732314597&ei=M3IVSuSXFpHYqAOf553fBQ&q=Tom+Bearden+weater+1985

This Soviet's call the study of scalar waves as energetics. They have been using this for many years. Please listen to the entire message before making any opinions about longitudinal waves. Yes, Mus-Turd you are correct in your understanding that electromagnetic waves don't travel very well in solids but they do at lower frequencies. All this is academic. The point is that scalar waves do travel through solids because the physics has yet to be fully explained. That is why I encourage you to watch the vid...

Multidimensional physics. This is where it gets very deep. Just wrapping your mind around the curl of space time is enough to drive one crazy. The complete buckling of the fabric of space is yet another subject for another time.. (grins)

posted by : ron_cnxt, 21 May 2009 Complain about this comment
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