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UK launches registry of all children

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Monday, 18 May 2009, 16:15

THE UK GOVERNMENT is starting to roll out a nationwide database that will hold personal details about every child in England.

Called Contactpoint, the registry will be available to 390,000 civil servants in various organisations ranging from national health authorities to local councils.

Costing £224 million, the system has been twice delayed due to data security concerns. A 2007 audit said the system could never be totally secured.

The Government has said that all personnel who are given access to the system will have gone through "stringent" security training. In addition, the names and locations about more than 51,000 children considered vulnerable will be shielded, lest the information fall into the wrong hands.

The point of the database, apparently, is that it is intended to enable workers in different government agencies at all levels to be aware of and better coordinate contacts with and services provided to children.

The children's database has be criticised by the Liberal Democrats as "intrusive" and the Tories have expressed lack of confidence in its security. µ

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This article does not make clear that the data base is for children in England only.So the title"uk launches registry of all children" is incorrect.

posted by : tally, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
The right hands

390,000 civil servants in various organisations ranging from national health authorities to local councils.
And how many of these people are pedophiles with sociopathic tendencies? The sample size is quite large, after all.
all personnel who are given access to the system will have gone through "stringent" security training
Security training, not security screening. Ah, the sound of relief among British parents and underage part of the population.

posted by : Anonymous Coward, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
WTF!!??

There will a huge influx in pedophile activity due to this. This is another nail in the coffin of the human race

posted by : Andy, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Correction

You have misreported this story despite the original article on the BBC - for once - being accurate.

The ContactPoint database only records information on English children, not "British" (or MPs children or famous peoples' children but that's another story). The legislation allowing the database to be created was English-only legislation introduced into the British parliament and voted on by British MPs from all four home nations but only applies to England.

The BBC article you refer to in your own article clearly states that it only applies to England. Please ensure that your misleading article is corrected.

Stuart Parr
Campaign for an English Parliament Media Watch
http://www.thecep.org.uk

posted by : Campaign for an English Parliament Media Watch, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Ms

Moreover the BBC tells us that England's children's minister is Delyth Morgan. The Labour peer, Delyth Morgan, is Baroness Morgan of Drefelin in the County of Dyfed, Wales. What business does she have representing the children of another country?

posted by : Scilla, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
WTF WTF?

On what basis does anyone think that this will encourage paedophilia? It holds a register of names and addresses of most children in England to allow them to be referenced singly by social work and health systems. If having IT systems (as opposed to paper systems with no audit trail or security checks at all) are a major target for paedophiles, then there will be evidence of them hacking into school administration systems, stealing files from social work departments etc? Or is this just scaremongering from those who think that just becuase they can see issues and risks in a new way of doing things is a reason not to move away from the old way of doing things (you know, the way that allowed numerous officials to see Baby P and Victoria Climbie in isolation rather than see that they all had minor suspicions).

posted by : MGJ, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
WTF WTF WTF....

Basically no-one would trust anything extremely secure with our government.
Someone will boldly go where other ministries have gone before and leave the sodding thing on a train, or a USB key with the whole database will show up on ebay...

Not forgetting the problems with social workers who have gotten thru 'security checks' who could peruse the database with a collegues nicked credentials, or any other persons credentials...

if someone has to pick up the papers in person, then you have photo ID.
Online, almost anonymous access is NOT the way to go. how many social workers etc keep their passwords on post-its ?

posted by : Ed6, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Mrs

So yet again because of a few evil people the whole of England is going to be "watched"and do get it right it is only English children,and where did Deltyh Morgan spring from? not from England I bet!!

posted by : E Justice, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
scottish not british

Since everyone else is mentioning it. The problem here is yet another issue with 4 countries stuck together with different rules (another English empire screw up). Things like this show that its time for us all to go our own way.
I for one vote independance.

posted by : thechevron, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Government has no ID!

Another Big Brother move!

After abusing the right to expenses by making us the people pay the tab for whatever luxury they can dream up.

They display a clear disregard for civil liberties.

Too bad our politicians reserve real creative ideas for themselves and their creative accounting.

This looks like another attempt to bring a form of ID card through the back door.

Who protects us from their abuse?

posted by : OVERLORD, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
The Perfect Pair - Control & Abandonment

Like siblings, the Scots are doing [just about] everything correctly because when you are less than number one, you get to have an overall view - unlike the topdog who only has his genitalia to fallback onto. Manipulating the errors of a few to formulate and justify a solution for all is not only the control-freak's genetic-marker, it is how false authority is cemented - until the facade crumbles under the weight of its own spin.

When there is balance, as in a nuclear standoff, the madness is undeployable but should it falls into the hands of a solitary nut-cum-screw who cannot be accounted for, that's what the "nuclear community" is desperately trying to account for. When a tiny bundle has big muscle, that's not the time to rationalise about being "99.9% bullet-proof". There is no such thing as "for sure" nor is it the time for statistics when it comes to human behaviour. The only sure thing about people is that they'll flip and all you need is one nut to highlight that certainty. By that time, the pension-collecting gamblers who have done the dirty deed are long gone.

"But what about the good the plan had done until such time ..." You mean what if the free-loaders stand aside [but let them collect their pensions, expenses, and lollies, oka Fame, Fortune & Immortality] to accomodate balanced viewpoints. Afterall, how would you call an entity who knows he's doing wrong but still proceeds with the act using justifications? "Politico" ranks a distance away, "hypocrite" is nearer the mark and idiotic-cum-lunatic is more the point. When you do not have the correct solution and the time draws near, "anything goes" is the byword and "Control" [whose other face is Abandonment] is the foundation which "anything goes" stands on. Almost without exception.

When the unenlightened and ungifted holds the pen of implementation and gathers around him those who sparkles and proclaim hindsight, current sight and foresight, that's the beginning of another birthday party and another round of what the Chinese colloquially observes as, "Dropping stools for others to tread".

When it comes to weapons of mass destruction, the digital option is [easily & stealthily] deployable, unlike the nuclear option. The ignoramus nutter-cum-screwers who are holding the watch during this digital era have signed away so much freedom that even a human rights tribunal wouldn't know where to begin.. It does not matter which political party is at the reigns, it is ignorance and fear of "computers" and IT that is doing the damage. This is because when there is ignorance, worship [of all things "komputur"] becomes the driving force and worship is when one treats the non-living as living and the living as non-living. When worship lacks authority/contact=with-reality, it becomes the saviour to implement fanaticism/what it believes in.

posted by : orang utan, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
...

All your children are belong to us!

posted by : Ernie, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
To all concerned

I don't see how a surge in pedophilia would follow from this. However, it might make it easier for some people to take advantage of children.

Anyway, it's good all you brits are all getting sourced and tagged. Wouldn't want you overthrowing that fine goverment of yours.

posted by : egil, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Missed the point

You're all missing the point. This is a database of children, right?

So when does it end? When is a person *removed* from this database? Let me guess. Hmmmmmm Never? This will start as a database of children and their parents, and within a generation will become a database for tracking everyone.

And while I'm at it, let me make a second guess: The govt. people who voted for this exempted themselves and their children.

posted by : Guy Gordon, 18 May 2009 Complain about this comment
VOTE TORY!!!!!

Cameron said he will scrap this madness along with the stupid ID scam, sry scheme.

I only wish to be the shareholder of any of those co's cus this is how you steal from the gov't.

Sadly we haven't cottoned on to this way of doing things in East Europe so we are seen as corrupt, unlike the moral beacons that are the Houses of reps.

posted by : I know, 19 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Another database?

Haven't they learned their lesson from all those other times?

Seriously, they make the same mistakes over and over again, tell us that "lessons have been learned" like they are a load of clueless temps pressing buttons in a power plant just to see what they do.

In a commercial environment they would have been fired 10 times over by now.

posted by : John, 19 May 2009 Complain about this comment
Not to worry

This gov IT project will be a massive failure just like all the others. Billions will be spent, and, in the end, when the project has become a technical nightmare, it will be quietly scrapped "due to public demand".
What this really is is just corporate pork for non-military companies. What, but we don't have the money for it ? Nonsense, we'll just print it. No problem, move along.

posted by : Pascal Monett, 21 May 2009 Complain about this comment
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