Muslim group issues Fatwa on mobile phone etiquette

What a load of crap...LOL

"It's disgraceful if one can't even give a peaceful half an hour to Allah" - good point made there, I mean, try to take half an hour for anything these days without yer cell blaring off....

I would say in respect for other cultures, fair play, if thats the rules they want then i'm sure it helps there followers.

personaly i think not answering your phone on the loo is just polite to the caller, dont nessisarily have to turn it off.

Wow, chalk another one up for religion! Everything is a sin and you need to be punished. I think extreme people like this are really just s&m freaks,... seriously. Makes u wonder if the guy thinks terrorism is a sin? Maybe he is a switch? lol

You would have thought god has more pressing things to concern himself with than what ringtone you are using.

If anyone has his ear, maybe you could ask if he could concentrate on eradicating Aids from people (especially children) in Africa? Shouldn't be too hard as he can do anything being god and all, or is that beyond the remit of a deity?

Oh, I forgot again - he moves in mysteriuos ways!

I think you accidentally typed "clerics" where you should have put "cretins".

It's a pity that this minority of extremists continually hog the spotlight by saying stupid/inflammatory things. They give the ordinary God-fearing folk a bad name. Most of these clerics are only interested in profiting through the exploitation of others.

Peace be Upon you,

Come on guys. I'm a muslim and I'm peacefully living in Australia. Stop with all these stereotyping. It's not healthy. Could we all just chill out and just enjoy Charlie's rants about Nvidia and bash him for his fanboyism. BTW, my mom works for AMD. I like it.

Just to explain this matter. If you tried to understand why he said that, it is because that as muslim, we should have an utmost respect for the words of God. You would somehow cut out the words of someone that you respect nor answer their call in the middle of your business in the toilet, right? This is just common sense guys.

Over and out.

It's no big deal really. If you believe in something (or you don't), it's your own business. No one has the right to make fun of your believes since no one actually can assume that he/she is absolutely right.
Sometimes the smallest things that you don't pay attention to are the things that really get you!

Actually my friend, the point of freedom of speech is that you can beleive whatever you like and I am free to "make fun" of you as much as I or anyone else like.

Just as you can do to me.

Actually they do have the right to laugh, but you have the right to ignore them.

Where can I download some of these and use them as ringtones on my phone, I want to never hear the end of the verse.

Bush is gone and it is public knowledge that the War On Terror never really existed...now they have the War on the Mexican Boarder to keep everyone from asking questions.

It's no longer chique to put down Muslims...have to invent another target.

silly story from a well known racist.

sam, islam is an ideology not a race

There was nothing racist in that article.

"People should think of the effect that it has on children, who if they are told something is a sin will forever look at their parents in a funny way."

Not our fault you ain't got no direction, religion (or respect for anything for that matter!) in your life - luckily most of the world doesnt think your way.

Stick to writing technology based articles instead of trying to get into the world of religion nick and you may get further in life.....

The mobile phone is a tyrant and its got to know who is boss!

F#@K religion. Seriously, people should be forced to accept that they do not know why the universe exists, and what happens to people after they die.

Consider the words of Pat Condell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPAC_cGVnUg

God commands you to watch it now.

I'm not joking either. Though the reason behind the fatwa may make no difference to you, it benefits everyone.

How annoying would it be to hear some religious verse or chanting as a ringtone on a cell phone from any religion? It'd be like having to hear some stupid "Christian rock" music ringtone or something. Bad enough people have U2 or other trash ringtones, or ringtones at all for that matter.

So Zoomee assumes that you need beliefs based on undemonstrable "truths" if you are to have any direction in your life. Okay then.

No aayat!
No problemo!
I have Santana verses on mine.

If a homocide bomber blows himself up before finishing citing a verse from the koran, is that considered a sin?

Real or not, this sort of news highlight the overt fanaticism of religious fundamentalism. That which is overt alerts those who are aware whereas the covert fundamentalism of the so-called Christian churches, especially Catholicism, which had destroyed so many [including genocide], is even more deadly.

Mohammed was illiterate and yet the Koran was attributed to him and he was, of course, poisoned. His power [base] was/is his daughter, Fatima, who had two sons [and these two entities are always contemporaries in their births/re-incarnations] and yet the fanatical evangelicals who usurped Mohammed’s message and “edited” the Koran, especially the those portions which denied women [and femininity is the power aspect within an absolute], end up having the upperhand – representing/lobbying-for God.

Religious fanatics act as if they have direct access to God and were ordered by Him to destroy “evil” whilst not forgetting that anger/right-cervical is the root/beginning of evil. A little knowledge might be a dangerous thing but as the ending is resolved towards the beginning, as in calculus, incomplete knowledge is even more dire. Power without its [own] truth is merely corruption and almost all human achievements/endeavours have incomplete knowledge which is why left to our own minds/devices, Destruction is the ONLY outcome. Without exception.

To the delight of the ritualistic control-freaks/sadists, however, the warning from the Koran that, “All men born of Adam are touched by Satan”, is correct and the fact that some are more “touched” than others is more illuminating. Ironic is not the word, sadness is, for many a decent person have been destroyed by religious fundamentalism whilst not forgetting that religion is the self-mastery within all, as alluded-to by the 10 sub-plexues [surroundiung the solar plexus] for they symbolise the 10 incarnations/divine-emissaries of the Principle of [Self] Mastery of which Mohammed was/is one [and Abraham, Moses, Socrates, Zarathustra, Confucius, Guru Nanak, et al]. When a nut lacks mastery of himself, he becomes a screw in order to master others whilst not forgetting that reality is not about what we’ve done but whom/what we’ve become.

That's ok, I've issued a Fatwa on getting oppressed Muslim women their basic human rights back.

I respect the Muslim religion, just not when its being used to deny basic human rights.

@If you believe in something (or you don't), it's your own business.

I believe you are mistaken. As the article pointed out, it's the business of the your cleric, all of the people in your congregation, and everyone with a different opinion that wishes to convert you to their way of thinking.

Didn't anyone ever teach you how human religion works?

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If you alah ahbars want your own rules, we'll help you. Just tump you all up and send you back to alah ahbar lands, you're over here taking free state benefits,free health care and in return bomb us, blow us up,winge and moan. This is GREAT Britain and a Christian land, if you dont like that then piss off. You'll still shoot and kill each other; the sunnis dont like the other side so take your war mungering religion and go home our fore fathers fought for nothing. clear off the lot of you. get a bacon butty on your way home. you dont see hindus and the rasta man moaning they are peaceful, they can stay - you lot just scrounge and promote hate , special offers going on flights and ferries -

"a senior cleric"

And there's your problem right there. Never ask an old man to explain new stuff like technology.

People who are incapable of dealing with the fact that reality keeps on changing do not deserve to have their opinions held in high stead. The old love to talk about how wicked young people are and how they deserve death, but it's not because they have some great moral insight, it is because they are cowardly and bitter, they see the end ahead for them and want everyone to suffer the same fear they feel.

If they were truely spiritual they would be trying to leave something good behind when they die, instead of just their own hatred and anger.

Blacker the berries, sweeter the juice. Your girls love us. You know blackman have the biggest di*ks, and that's a established fact and i happen to be a muslim.

Anytime you want, come down Brixton near the Ritzy and we will settle whatever concern you have. You get me?!

The rest of your weenecks don't seem to mind the fact that i'm muslim and a blackman at the same time. The weeneck that is bringing this to light here is also to blame when this is not, and does not concern you because the lot of you are dumb faithless hell dwellers. You are waiting for the light to be switched off, and you think that's will be it, just you wait. Jesus will come and save you, if only you knew. The devils right up you anus and is commanding you. Had you been born some time ago the christians would have killed you for blasphemy remember Galeleao that guy got raped by the church for making comments about the stars/planets etc. and disbelieve.

Obviously you are a ignorant dumbf*ck with a pea-sized brain. Simply go to the pub and get drunk, as simple as that. this is all you can comprehend. If you knew true Christianity, you'd know how similar it is to Islam and Judaism and all their priestesses are clothed the same covering the hair... what a dumbass.

Fairly boring stuff, really. Nothing all that spectacular, surprising or controversial. (In fact, I'd say it's probably just good manners.) Why are you even bothering to report this?

Now, if you want to really warp your mind, try to find out what rules observant Jews have to follow regarding mobile phones, particularly Haredi.

For example, have you heard of kosher mobile phones? They don't have internet access, since the Haredi aren't allowed to use it, and can't send text messages or take photos either since those aren't permitted. Israeli mobile phone companies sell them with special packages that only allow calls to other Haredi.

And this isn't some obscure sect - the Haredi are a huge and very influential group in Israeli society.

To say that the Muslim female is oppressed
in the Islamic ideal is plain asinine, the individual that made that comment is clearly bereft of any insight or sensibility towards Islam. The social advantages that covering the hair and body provides for Muslim women especially within U.K or non Muslim countries such as averting getting raped or maintaining the highest degree of class and self preservation. So contrary to what you thought it is not oppression but social progression that comes about from this code of conduct.

P.S; The clerics opinions none as 'Fatwahs' are just that opinions and
keen recommendations and not compulsory, so why the big fuss.

are perfect for wiping your bum after using your mobile phone on the toilet

Either listen to the whole verse each time (could be good excuse as to why not answer to phone. Or choose a shorter verse. duh.

What if your phone is deficate?

I know the case where Jesus was accused of breaking some of the added Pharisaic traditional laws in several occasions.

He put them in their place by answering and defending God's laws over the traditional laws above defending himself with irrefutable logic, note, to that he was martyred for this and didn't take lives and use literal weapons to prove his point.

Interrupting God's laws with any traditional laws is far more sin reaching than an incomplete prayer. Just forgetting part of a prayer can be said incomplete. Imposing a sin of an incomplete prayer to a faithful is equivalent in demanding perfection from sinners from the start, which is an impossibility. Nobody is perfect or sinless, today. Striving to be sin free is commendable, but dismissing reality is an imperfection right there.

The reason I would not consider putting a prayer on a cell phone ring, is respect, it just doesn't belong there. Simple as that.

Prayers [some songs are prayers too] are found on other mediums that can loose function or power, their incompleteness in this case is a result of man's imperfection but not man's sinful fault. Unless he maliciously deliberately causes a disruption in a religious gathering, by cutting off the power for example. Still, nothing to kill or die for.

Religions are for the morons.

They should keep their addiction for themselves and live us alone with progress and technology!