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ATI 880G info surfaces in Linux driver
IN AN IRONIC twist, five new ATI integrated graphics parts have surfaced in a Linux driver of all places. The successor to the 780G is based on the RS880 chip.
The sharp eyes at Phoronix noticed it in the latest driver commit, and there will be not just one but five upcoming parts.
You can readily identify these by poking around in the PCIe IDs, they stand out with the identifiers 0x9710, 0x9711, 0x9714, 0x9712 and 0x9713.
We have long been hearing that the 880G is going to be a mildly tarted up version of the 780G, and that looks to be the case from the driver tweaks. The basic architecture is the same as the 780G, both are based on the RV620 ASIC, so that part lines up. We hear a bit faster, a bit more efficient, and in general, more of a good thing.
The 780G is the best integrated chipset on the market, so why mess with success? If the 880 overclocks as well as the 780, it is going to be a winner. Look for this one at Computex, give or take a bit. µ
Addendum
We have been getting a lot of grief for not taking enough potshots at Nvidia in some articles. That said, JP, this one is for you.
The 780G also does not cook fruity laptops, or die an early heat related death. There have been no lawsuits that we know of filed over the 780G, nor have there been any deaths related to it, due to radiation poisoning or anything else. The 780G does not cause impotence in laboratory rats, does not cause hair loss, is not buggier than an hourly hotel matress, and even tastes good with butter. ATI does not deny any of the above in a cynical attempt to screw customers while padding the bottom line either. OK, they may deny the butter part, but not the radiation one.
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In addition to the 780G IGP, there's yet another (desktop) version of the RV62X floating about; in fairness, it actually preceded the 780G to market.
It's the core of AMD's Radeon HD34xx GPU, which, while known nowadays primarily as a portable chipset, didn't start there. The same things that made the RV620 (especially in IGP/Mobility Radeon trim) such a star also are winners in the budget PCIe space, especially for HTPC use. It originally shipped in both 256 MB and 512 MB trim from AMD's various AIBs (especially ASUS and HIS; however, only ASUS retails it today, primarily in a fanless 512 MB version aimed at the HTPC market); I have the 256 MB HIS dual-output version with standard VGA and DVI-D outputs, convertible to etiher dual-DVI or DVI-D and HDMI-out (via a swappable output plug on the PCB, instead of a dongle).
The HD34xx has proven to be surprisingly useful as a card for low or mid-level gaming in Windows (especially Vista or even Windows 7), as it supports DirectX 10.1, which few entry-level chipsets, none of which are from nVidia, do. When teamed with either the open-source or proprietary Linux drivers, it's also useful in Linux (which makes this card a good fit for a budget multi-OS budget box).
The 780g/HD3200 also supports sideport memory as my 780g mobo has it :) As far as I know the 790gx/HD3300 was just a 200mhz speed increase over the 780g putting the IGP at 700mhz up from 500mhz. No other gpu differences afaik.
I'm in one right one, wifiing away with my laptop. Some might say it's a tad early to get drunk but to them I say "wha' 'e f*ck u shtalkin' abou'"
Physics bars are great because girls are constantly working out in them, wearing nothing but bikinis.
How things have changed ...
Nobody interested in the high-end no more, must be a crisis side effect. (no relation with crysis the game)
Why concentrating on the GPU?
The chipset should have some extra power features for the AM3 CPU's etc.
Anyone has a list?
Isn't the 780g and the 790g targetting different markets?
You are dead wrong and should make another addemdum. The 780g is last years trash. The best on the market is the 790g, also known as the HD3300 with the side port memory. The 780g IGP is known as the HD3200 and does not have sideport and is beat soundly by the HD3300 in the 790g.
What's a physics bar? Is it an addon for compiz-fusion? If so, where can I get it?
@willis
"Compiz is prettier than osx too"
No kidding, especially if you install the physics bar at the bottom.
Sure, the 780G is a good IGP, but it's based on pretty old tech, now. A RV710-derived IGP would be much appreciated, and about twice as fast as the 780G, while being barely bigger.
And since the 880G isn't likely to launch any day soon (as far as I know, anyway) they might as well make it in 40 nm.
Apple swapped the logic board in my six month old macbook and within a day it's fried again. Black display, backlight on.
Good thing my primary workstation is a 780G/7850 ubuntu workstation. Compiz is prettier than osx too :P
Hey Gerald what app is it that needs over 120fps in 2D, and then what monitor is actually supporting it?
Glad to see that GMA at the top, proving just how valuable that metric is, it's surprising Beyond3D, Anand, Tom's & [H] don't use it exclusively. X~P
2Dmark2009 the standard by which everything is judged !! S3 Chrome Exclaibur get 1,200 fps it wins !!
While the 780G doesn't explode, it offers very bad 2D performance :-(
http://www.planet3dnow.de/photoplog/file.php?n=4668&w=l
(From Article http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=355982#content_start, German only)
Not really sure which is better, at least if you need 2D for WinXP (Vista uses 3D for the Desktop so it doesn't matter)
Did I just get mentioned?
But what about a three-some of 880's and a bucket of butter in an hourly motel bed? Would that rick overheating? What if a top GTX285 joined them?
Evn ignoring Nvidia chipsets for a moment, there's also the 790gx with the hd3300 igp that trumps the 780g.