The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense - Tom Clancy
THE SHY, retiring and softly-spoken Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer claims that the "tide is turning" against the fruit-themed outfit Apple.
Hacks asked Ballmer about the momentum Apple has experienced in the desktop and notebook computer market.
The Volish supremo said that more recent data showed that Jobs's Mob was taking a hit. He said that Apple had gained about one percentage point, but that the tide has really turned back the other direction.
One of the reasons was that the economy was not helpful because paying an extra $500 for a computer in this environment just to get an Apple logo on it was "challenging".
Ballmer added that manufacturers of Windows PCs have been stepping up their game.
Unfortunately, Dell's overpriced Adamo was the best example he could come up with. µ
L'Inq
Tech Flash
I really doubt he mentioned the Adamo...
There will inevitably be fanboys replies indicating how you "get what you pay for" and rich fanboys will inevitably chime in with how Apple kit "is not expensive", but seriously, paying $500 or more for Apple kit that really has no advantage over Windows kit outside of publishing or content creation only makes sense if you work in content creation or have more money than sense. We're in a recession. Apple may not have taken a hit yet on desktop and laptop sales but watch closely because they will. Who has money to waste on fruit theme gear other than AIG bonus recipients?
I keep hearing these "people won't be able to afford it arguments" for some time now... it explains while the volume of CPU sales may be down, but doesn't explain why we haven't ALREADY seen a market share shift. It's not like we are just entering this recession.
Folks don't buy a new computer/laptop every year, while cost is certainly a factor, if you are buying something once every 3 or 4 years, price may not be the only major purchasing factor. You also have to consider the demographic of folks buying Apple computers. Finally, the employment rate in the US is ~93%! While the press is keen on painting us into a Great Depression scenario, with full employment typically ~96%, essentially 3 out of every 100 people who want to work, don't work... while businesses should and will be impacted by this, it is now a cructh/excuse for everything.
Actually Linux sales are improving and Microsucks are declining so maybe BULLmer should look in the mirror to see the problem.
Linux sales ? only a retard would pay for the Linux OS...it would be nice if we could have one discussion about Apple or Win without the Linux tard league joining in to give their pointless and utterly irrelevant opinion...
As far as the Apple OS...its ok. For day to day use I'd still go with Win7 over Apple just because the gaming is better...add in the fact that Apple wont let me have a license for my perfectly fine Intel rig, that it costs more than WinV or Win7, and its a losing proposition for Apple...I wouldn't be surprised if sales were down a bit...
Two hrs. ago Samsung Announced shipment of 16 gb DDR3 1066 memory. heres fact:company also said that it's the first to offer 16 GB RDIMMs operating at 1.35V . You can stuff 196 Gb in 2P system or just Naw on edges for Fun. Also catalyst 9.3 controls cursor jump once common thru NT6. People will always love Apple, why because they work right. Only Automobiles could make larger junk pile than PC, with changes eg$$$ coming fast. Its School thing for kids & reassuring. As comparrison in premium price, try trading your family for stick of DDR3 16 gb 1066 Mhz/s Samsung, Its Available.STeWie Drashek
"People will always love Apple, why because they work right. Only Automobiles could make larger junk pile than PC"
Says who?
The only large pile of crap (junk) I can see is the $hite you try to write.
Sod off forever! - You're starting to irritate my leisure reading, again...
Other fans of the Inq. contribute stuff that, whether it's agreeable or not, is understandable and semi-coherent. Your comments do my head in and enrage me. You Sir are a complete anorak and train spotter!
Just put me out of misery; when I try to figure out if you've ever had a girlfriend or managed to get some freak to actually marry you? Surely you haven't reproduced? No! NO! Arrrrugh!!!!
Lots of love (NOT)
Dave
To INQ: please devise another Web Browser filter to erradicate this tool, please.....
i find it quiet rude how ed labels all linux users retards. i dont fully understand the hostility towards linux users. maybe its a personal thing, but it makes you look like a complete douch ed.
linux OS are sold and is a fairly decent os. for free! mauybe you dont want peopleto join the discussion because they have a decent arguement? either way you should grow up, unless your 12 then i forgive you. stay young.
What do they say: Money talks bullshit walks.
Well let's see how Microsoft's strategy to lay off 5000 people affects the bottom line.
And let's see if Apple's strategy have selling state-of-the art goods and services at premium prices affects it bottom line.
In the meantime, both camps are just sputtering BS.
How does buying an Apple make any sense for content creation or publishing? Windows PCs can do the exact same thing, plus you have $500.00 extra bucks to spend on content creation software.
* Monkey-boy sees fruit
* Monkey-boy wants fruit
* Monkey-boy grabs fruit
* Penguin steps on Monkey boy
(Welcome to a freer world).
Note to "Ed": Do not worry; the next time your Winbox goes down in flames to a virus attack or spontaneous blue screen, the Penguin will be there to save you (and we will welcome you into the flock).
What's the difference between "Brown Nose-ing" and "Ring Around the Collar"?
Depth of Commitment
Can you guys lick Ballmer's crack anymore then you do? Where is a hungarian egg throwing student when you need one!!!
Hey Ian and StUmper... FREE is not BUYING.
Ed's point, which is simple to any non-fanboi... Linux SALES? WTF would you pay for it when Ubuntu is FREE !?!?! Thus Linux sales improving just shows there's lotsa people out there with more money than brains, or else a Linux fanboi mixed up the idea of 'uptake' with sales, but still misses the point that all other options combined and multiplied by 4 still doesn't add up to M$' sales regardless of how douchey M$ may be.
Win7 is not Vista, and while Netbook sales will likely Help Linux uptake, it's still not about to change the balance of power of M$ Apple Linux anytime soon, however it may change some of the ratios therin.
Canute? Surely you mean Knut or Cnut?
Steve Balmer is King Cnut!
If the Inquirer was ever to go out of business, you might find it quite hard to actually get another job as an IT journalist? Who else would employ you, to write, again and again, the same non-story: "The iPhone won't sell", "Apple will make a loss, this quarter", "Macs are going out of fashion"... dadada.
Hate the facts, by all means, but at least acknowledge them! You're meant to be reporting on the IT industry, and I'm telling you, now, Farrell: the IT industry does not look like, what you want it to look like.
Apple's popularity baffles me, but I don't want to read the embittered ramblings, of some thwarted bloke, who couldn't even be asked to report on a natural distaster or a war, without working in some anti-Apple angle to it.
What is the message, here? That it baffles you, too, and you hate-hate-hate the whole thing? I think that's what I'm getting - but why, then, are you being employed to comment on an situation you cannot comprehend? You're sure as hell not helping me undestand it.
I used to read Spinnola's twitterings because of his uncanny ability to get his predictions wrong. He was a sort of anti-barometer on where the industry was heading. His inaccuracy was so predictable, it actually became its own sort of accuracy. But at least there was some sort of message, there. With you it's just: "Steve Balmer said something, yesterday, and Mactards are all bastards with more money than me."
Christ.
1. There are versions of Linux that are sold. Ubuntu is not the end of Linux story.
2. Apple today is like Paris Hilton. Go figure.
3. Drashek is God! This one looked fake though.
4. Writing M$, bashing Microsoft, and boasting everything that Apple produces is good, when they clearly have some substandard products as well - all journalists doesn't have to follow that idealistic teenager attitude.
To quote Nick: "[Apple fan boys]are terminally smug, yet strangely gullible"
I wish that the Inq would put writers names in the main page. Nick always writes about apple for some reason and his articles are always negative and contain a childish 'yah-boo-sucks' mentality.
Apple make some good stuff and some bad stuff. Praise them when they do good stuff, denigrate them when they do bad stuff.
But FFS grow up.
Needs a good lesson in math. Leopard costs at the highest, 120.00, Windows is 199.99 for a WORTHLESS home basic edition. Apple's OS is VERY inexpensive. But, you need a Mac to use it, you can build a Hackintosh but they NEVER work right
I have a Hackintosh and it works great. They work fine if you build them with the right parts.
Linux is a huge market. Where do you think Red Hat, Canonical etc get their revenue from?
People, but mostly corporations pay for service and support, and you really don't have to be a "retard" to pay for that.