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Seven new cores and five new AMD platforms

Bulldozer and the new Bobcat
Thursday, 13 November 2008, 20:12

AMD IS ADDING to the roadmap in a big way. The new stuff is both on the platform and CPU level, nothing is untouched.

The first one is called Yukon, it is the netbook we told you about earlier. There weren't any details released, other than it will be a netbook platform, and it is aimed at the thin notebook and netbook markets. TDP for the platform is set at sub-25W. From there, we move up to Tigris, the seeming successor to Puma. It is aimed at the mainstream notebook, and it is basically the 45nm mobile CPU with a 780M chipset. These platforms are due in 1H/09 and 2H/09 respectively.

On the desktop side we have Kodiak, a previously disclosed mainstream business GPU. It adds manageability like DASH, Energy Star 5.0, and of course 45nm CPUs. The consumer version is called Pisces, and both are also due in 2H09.

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Dragons are known to be big and blurry

The biggest and most exciting is named Dragon, the successor to Spider. It is listed as having Phenom II CPUs, and adds in all the AMD overclocking and gaming tools. This one will be the one to watch, Spider was hampered by a weak CPU, but Shanghai will go a long way toward fixing this.

On the CPU side, there are seven new CPUs listed, and the Shrike family of 45nm Bulldozer parts is dead. In it's place is the 32nm Orochi line. These are the new Bulldozers, and they come in during 2011. Orochi has four cores and 8M of cache, about what you would expect for the high end part. Below that is Llano, the mainstream desktop and notebook processor. It has four cores, 4MB of cache, and an integrated GPU.

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Roadmaps are built on details

Further down, we have Ontario, what they are calling Bobcat now. It is not the same Bobcat as they killed earlier, but welcome to our new Bobcat masters. It is a two core Orochi with a GPU and comes in a BGA package.

Those are the big bangs, but between now and 2011, there are four other new parts, all notebook SKUs. The 2009 mainstream notebook is called Caspian, a 2MB cache DDR2 notebook CPU. 2010 sees Champlain with four cores, DDR3, and the same 2MB cache.

Going down the ladder to the netbook segment, the 2009 version is called Conesus. This tongue twister has two cores, 1MB of cache, uses DDR2, and comes in a BGA package. Geneva adds a meg of cache along with DDR3 support, but keeps the BGA package.

All of the Bulldozer/Bobcat parts are on 32nm, the others are 45nm. AMD has filled out all the missing pieces on the platform side for 2009, and on the CPU side well through 2011.

Now you know the plan. ยต

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AMD is always telling about the future...

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is

posted by : Y. Berra, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Did you read those Orochi specs right?

The article comments: 
"Orochi has four cores and 8M of cache"

But what I see in the picture is ">4 cores" and ">8M" of cache. Since the graphic says ">" and not ">=" in each case, one has to wonder if Charlie saw those ">"s. 

Orochi may not be available with 4 cores and/or 8M cache at all, as planned, but only with specs exceeding those.

posted by : Mike-o-Matic, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
reading it right.

hmm... i'd recommend another look at that roadmap image charlie. i think you'd find that 'orochi' has greater than four cores and 8M of cache, which is a bit more what i would expect for a high-end desktop part in 2011.

posted by : turing_pest, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Nice to see some accurate AMD info.

It's nice to see some accurate AMD info. instead of all the AMD bashing that is so typical of other reporters at The Inquirer. There is no doubt that someone at The Inquirer benefits from bashing AMD and hyping Intel.

posted by : Paul, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
8 Cores?

I'm surprised there's no 8 core parts..

posted by : excelsium, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
AMD slip further behind

I see Deneb has quietly slipped to Q1 2009 instead of Q4 2008 pushing AMD further behind Intel with their new i7 cpus.

No sign of any 8-core cpus which Intel is hoping to ship by the end of Q4 2009.

posted by : John Sheridan, 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Time of Prophetaphycations?

Prophetaphycations: specifically those uttered by M.Magee as to AMD future, post dual core,?Who Will WIN FourCoreCrown? Well, Slippage in value with scramblin' Parts Bins, means?

Can AMD Find Hole or some kind o' time warp?

Mikestated that AMD was on road to ruin if 4 core true archetecture fails.Bulldozer was slahed, Maybe TOP End is Over?
Drashek

posted by : Truckin', 13 November 2008 Complain about this comment
eek

So Deneb has to first deal with Nehalem, and then Westmere as well.

Uh oh...

posted by : pixie, 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Orochi looks interesting

Orochi is marked as >4 core and >8MB cache. It is the only one with the > symbols. Usually this is read as greater than...so are 6 and 8 core processors in the pipeline?

posted by : Fritz , 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Re: Orochi

In your article you wrote "Orochi has four cores and 8M of cache, about what you would expect for the high end part".

Now, the roadmap image shows a greater than symbol, so more than four.

Then we have the name Orochi coming from an ancient Japanese tale of an eight headed serpent.

So, perhaps eight cores?

posted by : Sam, 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Not good

With the delay of bulldozer, they should have another tock of Shanghai in late 2009, with another 10-20% performance increase. So that they would have a tick-tock-tock strategy.

The previous talk about the catching up with intel on the process level was just FUD.

Not showing on the map, is a quad core with no level three cash. I am not sure removing that is such a good idea. Maybe having a Shangahi with 2MB of level three cash would be good idea since the Shanghai is only 10% smaller die wise than Barcelona. This would probably bring down the size to around 200-220mm2.

posted by : Mohammed Raei, 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
So what they're saying is..

..Shanghai is it for the next 2 years?? That, except for some frequency bumps and a platform change to DDR3/HT3 (which will likely yield next to nothing on the desktop), they will be on a virtual standstill? For 2 years!

Meanwhile Intel will have another tick and will replace Penryn (which Shanghai performs well against) with Nehalem (which it don't) top-to-bottom.

And by the time Bulldozer rolls in, it's tock time for Intel.

Somehow I'm disappointed.

posted by : Spoelie, 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
You fail at math

">" means greater than

Orochi will have > 4 cores and > 8M cache

posted by : ihatefud, 14 November 2008 Complain about this comment
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