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Whitehouse blames China for hack attacks

Sees red over what the Reds read
Monday, 10 November 2008, 12:27

THE FBI has claimed that hackers who penetrated the White House security network and carried out sophisticated attacks on Barack Obama and John McCain's campaign network came from China.

According to the Financial Times the Chinese managed to get their paws on shedloads of unclassified, material from the election campaigns which must have been worth translating for the glorious People's Republic.

While it was known that the Obama and McCain networks had been penetrated by hackers, it was not sure where they had come from. Various sources said that it was either China or India, But the FBI has said that it is almost certain to have been China which was behind the attacks.

Sheesh, we couldn't keep US campaign material out of our inbox, why would they think that the Chinese were interested to know about where the different candidates stood on issues such like Taiwan? For some reason they didn’t think of asking any of the candidates.

More serious was the attacks on the White House computer network which seems to work a bit like a cat flap. Shedloads of e-mails between government officials have ended up behind the bamboo curtain.

The Pentagon claims the Chinese army has established units to develop viruses to attack enemy computer systems. China claims that it is as much a victim as any one else. µ

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What makes them sure it was China ?

I get dozens of return mails on my mail server that were never sent from my domain - a lot of them are recorded as being sent from addresses that don't even exist on my mail server.
I cannot help but wonder what allows these guys to boldly state that China is the "source" of the "attacks". I mean, IPs can be spoofed in a number of ways. I doubt that some of those methods can be backtracked farther than the spoofed address, and I'm pretty sure that anyone wanting to actually hack White House servers would be smart enough to ensure he was using a method that kept the FBI (or worse) from knocking down his door an hour later.

posted by : Pascal Monett, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Chinese crack White House

Maybe the Chinese will let us poor US citizens and voters know what the heck is going on in the White House and where Obama-dama-ding-dong stands on issues, because we sure as hell haven't been told by either party.

Elections of 2010 should be real fun once the populace figures out that the Democrats have once again played their favorite game, "Let's lie to the voters". Of course, the Republicans play that game too, although not as well.

We really need a viable third-party candidate.

posted by : Rich Wargo, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Numbers

I have a quick question about systems.... How many systems in north America or Europe (choose one or the other) are not secured with at least the basic security systems like AV, AM, FW. If you say about 10% (from my experience this is around where it stands) ask your self out of the Chinese systems out there what would 10% equate to. The answer is probably more systems then all of Europe and at least 2/3 of all the systems in North America. 

This being said how easy is it to zombie a unprotected system.... as easy as killing fish in a barrel with dynamite. Now understanding the ease at which these systems can be compromised lets say there are hackers located in a country that really has a problem with the US who have huge zombie nets in China wouldn't it be a sneaky sneaky thing to make it look like one of the countries that the US fears most.

I have been doing security analysis for over 5 years now and from my deep analysis of all the events that occur from all over the net. All the Chinese traffic I've seen are definitely zombies... same probe every day at the same time and the same amount of packets. Real hackers don't probe this way, unless your really worth your salt in security analysis you would probably not even see a real hack event. All the real events I've ever noticed came from Russia and the surrounding countries that were part of the USSR. 

Here is my take, all long standing democracies have been bombarded by that 10% of unprotected systems in China to collect information so that the real hackers know what to hack and how to hack them. I find it amusing that people are so easily mislead by this. I always found that the most interesting security events I got were never from China, every event I ever analyzed from china was a blatant dumb scan/probe. I will say maybe 5 to 10 years ago there were more real events coming from China but in the last five years I can easily say it's someone else.

posted by : db, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
almost certain?

"the FBI has said that it is almost certain to have been China which was behind the attacks."

i got a feeling of deja vu when reading this, only 5 years ago we all heard that the Americans were "almost certain" that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

although American servers don't sound as if they have great security, i think the people doing this will have the ability cover up there tracks. 


posted by : hardcore street, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
If you don't know who did it

just blame China. Then blame Russia, then Iraq, then Iran, then terrorism, then the French.

Seriously though, anyone else getting tired of the stupid blame game the yanks play with the same 3 countries?

posted by : Frank, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
Cut the hardline

Here's an idea, lets just kick China off the internet. That would solve alot of problems including this one. With their great firewall of China, they are effectively screwing their populace out of what should be a common Internet experience, so lets help them out and do ourselves a real big favor, and kick them off the net once and for all.

posted by : Brent, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
FBI fund rasing scheme?

Why would the Chinese waste resources on whitehouse.gov when all information is available at http://www.whitehouse.org/

posted by : Till Eulenspiegel, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
We should have a higher expectation

of hacks as long as the Chinese persist in having ostentatious gymnasts' rising the bar. The unabated misuse of RemotelyAnywhere occurring remotely anywhere, and while under the influence of cannabis and beer, will no doubt continue, until the biggest military secret and cover-up of all time extra-terrestrial in origin and [they've] captured spacecraft and reverse engineered it... is made manifest for all the world, and the anti-gravity technology, and the "cigar shaped" "Free Energy" is given to all men, and not just taunted with as is now from television shows are Heroes and Stargates. The real Nemesis residing in the Ort cloud, the truth should be told. The original Chinese takeaway, now enshrined and secreted within the secret secret vaults of the British Museum.

posted by : Solobad Xing, 10 November 2008 Complain about this comment
RE: Numbers

Actually China have only just over taken the number of connections America has (so 10% of china ~= 2/3 of US is way out)

posted by : matt, 11 November 2008 Complain about this comment
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