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Vista is doomed
AS MICROSOFT goes into this week's Professional Developer Conference, it is hard to find anyone keen to talk about Vista. True, it is a developer's forum, so you would expect a fair slice of the talk to focus on Windows 7, but it seems that no one wants to mention the V word, according to Microsoft Watch.
Windows 7 banners are flying and, out of 194 sessions, 22 are dedicated to the next-gen OS and none to Windows Vista.
It is one of the signs of Vista's coming apocalypse and an indication that Microsoft has given up on the operating system.
For those interested in the signs, Microsoft Watch has listed them and we have translated them.
For it is written in the book of the Revelation of Ballmer that the blue sky shall be wrapped up like unto a scroll and licenses shall vanish as if they had been taken up.
Before these times Volish executives cheered the take of Vista licences, now now they shall fall strangely silent. And hacks throughout the land shall wonder "where are the Vista licence increases that you promised?" and lo, they shall hear nothing.
And then the horseman of economic ruin shall cast its scythe upon Microsoft's client income. For it shall be known that while the business division and revenue shall be waxing by 20 per cent, the Windows client division only grew by two percent. See this sign and you will know the end days of Vista are near.
And then I saw that netbook sales were waxing strong and then I knew the doom of Vista was written in fate. For Vista worketh not well with netbooks. Vista requireth the resources of a super computer and causeth the weakest spec to cry out against the dark and gnash its teeth and wail. For it is written that a netbook shall only run with Linux or XP Home, lest it turn into an expensive piece of molten plastic in your lap.
And lo, it appeared that Microsoft kneweth its product was pants and attempted to save it with an expensive marketing campaign. Yet its "Windows. Life Without Walls" failed to mention the operating system and it was clear it had not its heart in the campaign.
And an angel did hold a stone before us, upon which was carved a list of other signs of Vista's apocalypse. These included continued OEM sales of XP downgrade licenses and only 10 percent enterprise adoption.
And the angel spake unto me and said: "Vista is so pants, that even Apple's Leopard is considered a viable alternative" and there was much merriment in heaven at this Angel's joke, for no one would be stupid enough to stoop down to that darkly splendid void. µ
L'Inq
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If MS wants their next OS to be the best and show real change they should name it PALIN. It will be a solid performer (reduce energy costs, and increase networking capabilities), do what it advertises, and have an attractive interface! I hear it is coming in 2012!
A change we can believe in? Does it make the previous offering palin to insignificance? I for one will not do their Biden.....
good article but every newborn takes time to learn to walk :-). Life without Windows would be difficult.
Analogy btwn Bush & Vista was striking. Mind you software across the world is developed like cottege industry. Irrespective of who develops it will struggle unless some descipline is adopted. As far as Windows goes love it or hate it you know you cant live without it. :-)
I just finished a Vista64 Build last week. Third system in 4 months. Everything works flawlessly. Price out DDR2 over the past year? 8 GB DDR2 systems Apps and Games - Vista64 handles memory perfectly. 

I have never run into a DRM nightmare and disabling the UAC can be done in two clicks. It's clear the INQ lacks any journalistic objectivity and that each writer at the INQ is bent to tow the inflammatory Vista line. Must be a job requirement. 

I admit I bought into the exaggerated negative attacks early on reading articles here, but MS must be faulted for failing to stand up and demonstrate its merits. That MS stood by and never asserted professional advantages of using Vista64 is unsettling. 

I personally would never consider Vista32, but then again Microsoft's line rarely (if ever) touted the 64Bit line. We've had 64Bit processors for how many years now? I'm betting by the time Windows 7 comes about, Vista64 adoption will be largely ignored by the alarmist press.
Being an Non-Resident Indian (aka England born but of Indian Decent), I don't care about the coding ability of Indian Indians, as I can't code at all. I will however say this, Indians from India think differently do those living outside India.

I have recently discovered a saving grace of Vista - Language support for Indian languages, in particular Gujerati.

In XP, you had to jump through hoops and give your first born to Satan before your install of XP supported any Indian language. But in Vista Home Premium, its a doddle, a couple of clicks later and not can you read indian texts, but a couple more will allow you to type it as well. Vistas On-Screen Keyboard makes typing Indian languages easy too.

I hope Windows 7 keeps this feature.
Microsoft strategy similar to intels "Tick Tock" ? :-D
"hither... thither... and yawn
smite thyself
posted by : number9, 28 October 2008"

Now that was funny.
You can't even do decent tech support. Intel bailed on you after your engineers couldn't deliver ANYTHING of value. 

I can say India is the spiritual heart of the world. Or that you produce the worlds most annoying bureaucrats. But great code, not so much. You are not like the coders from the former Soviet Union, bloody amazing tight code. Take a lesson from them.
For their consumer OSes:

Win 95 (good) -> Win 98 (bad) -> Win 98SE (much better) -> Win ME (very bad) -> Win Xp (Excellent) -> Win Vista (horrible)... 

By following this cycle, I have quite high hopes for Windows 7 since MS has started swinging more to the extremes as they progress. 

Until Win 7, I'll be staying with my XP Pro I purchased a week before official retail release. (It's good to have friends who are MS employees with early access.)
Let us in India do it ...

1. BSOD ... Reason: u wearnt wearing sacred donkey horn bracelet/locket

2. While Windows boots up sing these bhjans (sacred songs).

3. Stand on one leg (yoga) while windows backup ur data.
It's mended pants, thats what it is. 
Pants with holes fixed and extra pockets. Still pants mind you. Vista did have potential to be good, really good, if it was done by a different software house and released 3-4 years earlier before XP became entrenched.
Not had any problems here with vista, running it on my main gaming machine with about the same if not better uptimes than XP.

The extra memory (ultimate64) support is very handy, it tends to use its cache more than XP ever did.

And before you ask, yes UAC is disabled and no, I don't use the steaming pile of web browser it comes with.
Since when...?

Give me a break (rolling eyes)... get un-full of yourself, you're only a 2-bit wannabe.
this geezer wants to make whole OS..... damn, just thinking about it gives me the goosebumps!

Hell no. Just letting them write some codes or section of the code was probably the cause of death of vista... it's a sickness they implanted somewhere inside. Now this prick wants to make a complete OS from scratch.

Look. you try and cut corners and you pay the price later. In this case its the cost of bad programming and the over use of the DRM bullsh*t.

I'm only glad they will be supporting XP till 2012 or something like that, it'll ensure all new hardware will be compatable. I'd really like to see what the new hardware could do with my old but useful OS SP3.

If vista works for you, good, you keep it. And if linux is your thing, again, good for you. To each his own.

Love the religious format of the article, keep up the good work.

Good, we have a understanding.

Jon.
Does this mean MS is going to drop Vista? What about the people who already have it? I just bought a lenovo x61t and it came with vista. I like the tablet functions that come with vista, so what happens when windows 7 comes out? Do i get stuck with this pos?
I don't understand why everyone cries about Vista, I have been in IT for 25 years and have seen all of the O/S's MS has pumped out, Vista is as good and stable as XP. I use it corporately and it is fine. As for having India create our new O/S, dream on...

Oh ya, maybe you young kids have had it to easy, where do you think we would be without MS? So don't be so quick to trash them, besides Windows 7 looks like vista, probably is, just rebranded...
Yeh Vista is rubbish and i still use XP Pro. I have tried Vista and found it to be quite sluggish.

MetaComCo an old British company developed, argubly still the best computer OS ever, AmigaDos. Which in the late 1980s offered better multitasking than found on Windows 98.
While Overcome with Fraughtful sorrow, I, Ultee', Shed petraflop of Tears. Ultimate is Cool.

Most of Vista was Cut Back NT5 edition & probably thats on way out much more than Ultimate.

Somehow, 7 seems to be gaining crowd of hopefuls, like Vista, yet all it seems to be sure is that all 7 editions will be NT6, So that may be clinker. Get all new machines up to NT6. There are even rumours of significant upgrade, yet that may be Nt5 to Nt6 tranistion, as 7 is reputed to be less than Ultimate.
drashek
Vista, like George Bush, is now a lame duck! They both had their period in the sun where they ignored their constituents and thought they knew better than everybody else the way the state of the world should and had to be. They both attempted to use and abuse their strength and powers to force every unwilling soul to succumb to their wishes. They both wasted so much time and effort on pushing failed agendas that they have actually reversed the course of progress. Now, they both are rejected and dejected embarrassments as their thin veneers of false marketing have lifted away and exposed these once lipsticked pigs. Their "creators" are now attempting to closet both of them as if they never existed to hide the fact that they were both products that selfishly served their creators and did nothing for the people. Whether this is because neither of them are in touch with the people or don't care about them is the debate that will allow their opponents to fire up a strong and powerful grassroots movement to CHANGE this long standing status quo.

The most important responsibility of the people is to become informed and not allow these dictators to force feed you their snake oil anymore. Let this be the lesson where the people become and remain consumer and political activists or we'll continue to pay a "large price" for little function!
The ingenious hilarity was not in the article, but in the comments!: Deepak Slungurdaabgoor:

"But the truth is that western companies cannot make a good OS.

Let us in India do it and you will have a proper system to rely on."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! That must be one of the funniest things ive read all year. This is not the first time i have seen Indians knocking western goods/abilities - and the joke is that India suffers from chronic poverty, is a third world country.. etc.etc.. ive been there.... "hello friend". Dont fool yourself Deepak.
When I hear the name Dell, I think of tech support from India. I have a mobile and desktop super computer both running Veesta with no problem, but then I am an IT Tech. If you don't like Veesta, go buy a Mac. If you're rich. As for not talking about Vista at a Developer conference, who cares who does and doesn't develop for Vista? All I care about are that my games run on it and they do in fact, quite well. Of course, we don't use it at work, but that is another discussion entirely.
User inserts the upgrade disc...

vista > You sure you want to upgrade? yes/no
user> yes

vista> really? yes/no
user> yes

vista> nah? i will need your permission to run the program. yes/no
user> yes

vista> a program wants to run upgrade_2_7.exe and vista needs your permission to continue, you will need administrator rights, put your right hand over hour head, grab your ankle with your left hand and click with your nose. Do you want to allow the program upgrade_2_7.exe to run? yes/no
user> YES.

vista> nah, really? yes/no....
Another mildly amusing and pointless post by Nick "leenucks" Farrell, his 2171:st boot in the backside of Vista. In reality Vista have steadily been adopted by both enthusiast and the masses, replacing XP, and surprising most people by not sucking like the trolls claimed. Funny how things go. The real problem with Vista is that it's been through the worst PR-disaster MS have ever experienced and the name is still vibrating the negative fud people connect with the word, hence the recent PR campaigns and now the recent focus on the follow-up of Win7.
smite thyself
Make a crap product, make PC vendors install it, and then people will want to buy the followup....

Xbox720 anyone, this one will REALLY work, we promise...
OK, I just had to comment on the first posters remark about about good software coming from India. Are you kidding me or what?

The worst code dev's I have seen are in India. Bad code, badly documented, never meets a spec. When I hear bloatware and Vista I think of India
"Let us in India do it and you will have a proper system to rely on."

That was funny :)
It's voila and not viola otherwise it means it has been raped...
More usability and less aero next time MS. Learn your lesson and give us something that won't annoy us with thousand warnings and sky high System requirements.
So you're complaining that a conference that is there to show developers what is coming up isn't talking about an operating system that was released two years ago?

What next; are you going to complain that Wired doesn't cover the abacus?
lolol. what can i say... but then anything mocking God tickles me to no end
Really cool writing there

forgot to mention that W7 is second coming of same pants

funny that nobody wants to know about new MS filesystem that was almost ready but was dropped from Vista to "next" windows
I think you will find that India was heavily involved in the construction of that OS called Vista. 

Microsoft needs to convert! lol.. 

They should probably discard Vista altogether, release a patch that lets you run dx10 in XP, and viola! you have Windows reborn! No need to pacify us with false hopes of 'yet another great OS' only to realize 'Oh Gosh! Not everybody owns a supercomputer!"
So if Mircosoft has given up on vista, why are they releasing service pack two beta tomorrow?
All I keep thinking when I read this was:

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade, that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy."

Amen.
"And lo, it appeared that Microsoft kneweth its product was pants... "

:) rofl
wish they would just give xp 64 dx10.

Hilarious article.
Death to Vista.
That was funny :)

But the truth is that western companies cannot make a good OS.

Let us in India do it and you will have a proper system to rely on.