The truth will out. But will it be out in time? - Mike Magee
AMD ANALYST DAY had a bunch of new tidbits, and in no particular order, here is a bunch of new information. We hope it will bring you peace in this time of universal brouhaha.
The new names are Persues, Kodiak, Swift, Shrike, Leo refresh and Cartwheel refresh. Embedded in those names are a bunch of new bullet points, chips, chipsets and a new term, APU. Lets get started with the term, APU.
APU stands for Accelerated Processing Unit, and the first one is Swift. You might have heard of it earlier as Fusion, and it is set to come out in the latter half of 2009. What it is, is a 'stars' core with the new northbridge from Griffin, a GPU and PCIe on board. Basically, it is a system on a chip, but unlike other SoCs, it is aimed at the high end, not the low.
Probably the next most important part is Perseus, the shatteringly dull corporate desktop platform. It has a Toliman or Kuma CPU, a RS780/SB700 chipset, and supports Hybrid Crossfire. Perseus is MS broken OS logo compliant, and hopefully will be Energy Star 4.0 and DASH 1.0 ready.
The next generation is called Kodiak, and it hits the streets in mid-2009. Again, it is a long-term, stable corporate desktop that has Propus, Heka and Regor as the CPUs, but duals are not on the option list. It uses an AM3 package, but the southbridge is interestingly listed as SB700+, not SB700. Interesting tidbit there. Other than that, little has changed.
Cartwheel is much the same, a 2008 consumer desktop, and is replaced by Cartwheel refresh in the spring of 2009. It has most of what Perseus/Kodiak does, but the refresh offers a SB800 instead of a SB700+. Don't get all that excited here unless you buy your PCs from Best Buy.
You know about Spider, it is a purchasable platform, more or less depending on Phenom, but it gets replaced by Leo in mid-2008, and Leo gets refreshed in early '09. Leo replaces Phenom with Deneb and Propus, 3 and four core only, and SB600 gives way to SB700. Basically, a new CPU and a new SB.
The Leo refresh is a little more interesting. Contrary to the name, it adds more than Leo did. The package goes from AM2+ to AM3, and that means DDR3. The chipset goes from 7xx to RD8xx with a SB800, and the GPUs go from R6xx to R7xx. By far the most interesting point, possibly of the whole day, is the lone bullet point that says IOMMU I/O virtualisation.
This is a huge deal, for those of you who don't understand virtualisation, it is the last major stumbling block to virtualising everything is a system. It means you will be able to virtualise PCIe cards, video, and other things that must be emulated today. If it is done right, you will be able to use virtualisation on a gaming/multimedia desktop. This can't come soon enough.
Last, but far from least, we have Shrike, the follow-on to Puma. It is the 2009 AMD laptop base platform, and it again has some very interesting bits if you read between the lines. First, it says it has a gen three stars core and one GPU core. Ram is DDR3, it plugs into a socket with a new name, FS1, and is built on 45nm technology. The southbridge goes from 780M/SB700 to 'next generation southbridge', and graphics go from M8x to M9x. It also adds UWB for connectivity, whatever that is defined as.
The open question here is if it is Fusion/Swift/APU? Is the GPU on die or on package? Is it even on package? It may look a lot like Swift, but the timing says it is not all there yet, so we would guess that it is a proto-fusion part that AMD keeps trying to convince us is something more than packaging tech. If Intel can sell that line for Nehalem, we guess AMD can as well.
Stepping away from platforms, we come to CPUs. The real news here is Montreal,. It is four and eight cores, and the time-line has it in 1H/09. They list 1M L2/core, a doubling of Shanghai, and 6-12M of L3. Shanghai is listed as 6M, so Montreal looks like two Shanghais on an MCM. Another curious point is that Shanghai is listed as using RDDR2 along with Barcelona, but Montreal uses plain old DDR3.
Shanghai also has a curious bullet point of "1 PC enhancements" whatever that means, and Montreal lacks it. Montreal also ups the HT3 link count from Shanghai's three to four. This strongly supports the MCM theory, with each core connected by an on-package HT link, that would eat two of the six leaving four.
Even more interesting is that the chipsets go from Broadcom and NV on Barcelona and Shanghai to 100 per cent ATI on Montreal. The listed chipsets are RD890S and RD780S teamed up with SB700S. Isn't that a turn of events, but you can hardly blame them after Broadcom's woeful attempts at a chipset and NV's heat problems.
The socket also changes, as you would expect with the HT link count. It goes from Socket F to Socket G3 "Piranha". All of this is a massive power shift, don't underestimate the effects that it will have on the server landscape, both good and bad.
Overall, there is a lot coming, most of which is variants on the current lineup. Between the lines, there is a lot of good stuff, I/O virtualization and the server chipsets being the big ones, as well as the APU category. The news was of course overshadowed by the financial woes, but if AMD can deliver, they certainly will have some good products in the 9-18 month range. ยต
That's what this is. 

It reminds me of corporate meeting where the less someone had to say, the more jargon they had to fill it with (I've actually heard someone use "We need to be moving in a going - forwards direction" ....)

Seems like AMD doesn't have a whole lot going for it, and what it does has, it stuffed up. So this absolute plethora of codenames is meant to convince us that there's a lot going on.

I find it confusing and lame.
Well, it's the AMD 890S and <b>___870S___</b> chipsets, not 780S.

You need a bit of verification. :p
Shows inner core of AMD just kept on Tickin, even after severe Licken'.
However, in spite of news that 8XX chipset is coming, when will Vista ULTIMATE come as OEM package?

Maybe World needs few more computer outlets? COMPworld?

These are bit more than Text Messaging celluar, inspite of good LG did there, there is extreme good in computing quality also, beginning to blossom, how about ULTIE,Charlie?

GIVE US ULTIE NOW!
thomas vondrashek
US Major League Baseball looks like kiddies playing with a chemistry set compared to the way-outta-the-park slideware AMD is consistently delivering. With impressive style, no less. F#IN-A.MD. 

Yeah, it is time to call the doctor.

One has to wonder... are the AMD execs coming up with this incredible slideware on the basis of their own talents... or are they getting help... a little divine inspiration, a little blessing from the poppy perhaps?

Reminds me of something:

It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice !
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
His flashing eyes, his floating hair !
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.

Wow. That is the sequel to Barcelona, is it not?? No doubt, it will be the eater of worlds.

Well, the eater of words anyway.

Okay. Okay. I guess we can all agree AMD is not shipping anything that's real *and works*, F#IN EVER. 

But hot damn, that slideware smokes!!!
Notice that "Falcon" (Bulldozer core fusion part) has been replaced with "Swift" (K10 core fusion part), and that Sandtiger (Bulldozer core server octo-core) has vanished from the 2009 roadmaps, vs. July Analyst Day.

In fact, no mention of Bulldozer at all.

Together with Dirk's comments about cutting R&D and performance no longer being important... 
The delay of the Bulldozer cores was just slipped right by you Charlie. I can't believe you're letting AMD slide on this major roadmap delay. By 2H09, the Stars core will be getting old. It seems that AMD has given up on being a performance leader - any old core will do.
I guess AMD is still trying to baffle us with the bullshit since they evidently can't dazzle us with their brilliance. Just more of the same old dog and pony show here.
did they scrapped the bulldozer architecture?
And let us former AMD fans and PC enthusiasts in general have some rest. Stop getting our hopes up for no reason. AMD is the worst failure in the history of the PC industry, and they will not be around long enough to produce another competitive product at the high-end.
Their launches of almost all their new product is in the dumpster, the CEO is getting a pay raise and...did they ever mention where the money is going to come from to stay in business?

Will they really be around in another year+?
OK so AMD want to put GPUs with CPUs in a blender and flip the switch. It will be interesting to watch but after the sorry story of Phenom delivery and fluff about how good it was vanishing down the drain, you can't shake that nagging feeling that the whole is going to be less than the sum of the parts. 

As for gamers this is more fluff, they are not the target audience. Noone who wants to game will pick a mobo for hybrid Xfire. The benefits will be miniscule. This is aimed at OEMs who like to persuade customers that they are getting cutting edge, hence the claims about gamers. It aint true but we know what it means.

I don't doubt that AMD watching has become a spectator sport in Santa Clara and the source of much pleasure. But they will be watching like a hungry hawk for any signs that AMD in the midst of its tribulation has improved on conventional wisdom. As will we all. If they can then they will be years ahead and Hector can keep his job, but that was the gamble and so far there is no sign of this, just a few expensive experiments in manufacturing economics.
I believe "1 PC Enhancements" should be "IPC Enhancements", where IPC is Instructions Per Clock.