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Comcast bows to child porn pressure

Blocked in New York
Tuesday, 22 July 2008, 10:38

US ISP Comcast said it will agree to block child porn to subscribers in New York State after coming under pressure from state bureaucrats.

Attorney General Andrew Cuomo had threatened to take the Philadelphia-based company to court after rival ISPs agreed to go along with his porn purge.

Cuomo is backing a "code of conduct" that requires ISPs to block web sites and newsgroups thought to be fiddling about with child pornography.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Comcast said it had "joined with nearly the entire cable industry and 48 State Attorneys General and the Centre for Missing and Exploited Children to sign an unprecedented, and highly praised, industry-wide agreement to fight child pornography. Comcast has been working with the New York Attorney General and we expect to become a signatory to his agreement as well."

Comcast delivers Internet connections to a tiny proportion of New York State residents.

Of course, now that child porn sites are blocked in these American States, next up will be the Turrurists. Then the subversives. Then the INQ, no doubt.

Not that Comcast seems to have been holding out for this reason from what we can tell. µ

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Is this the Disallow Usenet ALT. hierarchy agreement?

If so, it isn't blocking kiddie-porn, so much as an entire dimension of information/internet.

( because, of course, kiddie-porn can still be torrented, shared by other usenet sub-sections, shared via freenet & gnunet, other p2p networks, and shared via both locked archives on the web, ftp, and by sneakernet with physical drives, same as what movies-sharing was done, in Asia )

Of course, it's only a matter of time, before all rights are removed ( internet may be publically available, but is corporate-private property: they have every legal right to disallow all they find either unprofitable, or anything that questions their authority, right? -- just as you do, among your home, with your kids/chattel )

Cheers.

posted by : Captain Obvious, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Well....

It's hardly a bad thing blocking these sites, just means that no user can get at em. Unless…. they reroute their line via another country. 

However I do agree that the government could likely using child porn as a reason to step up its content blockages. Being as moral as they are probably don’t see much of a difference with someone who downloads child porn and some one questions the moral compass of our leaders.

Just so you know I’m not talking about all politicians and it’s a shame that the one’s who are really good at doing their job don’t get very far, usually.

posted by : Alex, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
You were close

The next blocks are:

1. Torrents (courtesy of MPAA and RIAA)
2. Islamic websites (courtesy of our President's henchmen)- includes Wikipedia
3. Online medical sites (the kiddies might learn about drugs!)
4. Anything Canadian- they're just a little too liberal up there for our tastes.
5. And lastly, Open VPN... because we don't want people defeating the block.

Pretty disgusting. All removal of rights have been for initially "noble goals" (read: DMCA and Patriot Act), but they always inevitably cast a far wider net than needed.

posted by : Dan, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Noble to remove rights?

Their initial goal is to covertly cast a far wider net. Removal of our rights has been carried out under the guise of nobility, but it has not been noble.

posted by : Possumstalker, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Fine by me

I don't see where blocking this type of material is bad. I am not one to believe in the "slippery slope" argument. Just because you block vile, disgusting, images that destroy lives, doesn't mean they are going to block other things. Any argument against blocking this kiddie porn crap is weak and in my view, troubling and probably is only shared by those who look at it. However, when you move to other realms the argument and the hostility of other people will grow when the subject matter isn't so decisively wrong.

posted by : Mark Ross, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Hermits' Cave is PORN.

Does One Taste Tint of Anti Censorship Here? Don't Look twice, Those Porn Distributors Are Hauling Your Children OFF to Childrens Vivisection Hopitol, Right Now.

Like Soft Drugs Lead To Hard, Vulagarian Porn is another SICKNESS, that leads to Death.

Why Dosn't Hon Como Esq ARREST Porn Servers & LOCK THEM AWAY FOREVER.
drashek

posted by : NoRoom, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
all UseNet deep sixed by this jihad

Comcast is the latest cave in cable co. to Iwanna Bpres Como. Time Warner stopped all UseNet forums, not just alt., in its cave in. The losers are Internet users who want info outside of mainstream sites. I liked the alt. forums on PC use and fixes, plus UseNet forums such as pgp & scanner radio. No more access 4 me. I wasn't into the alt.nude stuff or, God forbid, kiddie porn. The trouble with censorship, it stops legal info users and won't stop the perverts as they find it via other work arounds.

posted by : T. Bone, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Mark Ross you are WRONG

@Mark Ross
"Fine by me
I don't see where blocking this type of material is bad. I am not one to believe in the "slippery slope" argument. Just because you block vile, disgusting, images that destroy lives, doesn't mean they are going to block other things."

You fundamentally don't understand this issue. Blocking Usenet ALT. to stop kiddie porn would be like blocking all .COM websites because some may host kiddie porn, blocking all TORRENTS because some may infringe on copyrights, or maybe taking away the rights of all US citizens with the Patriot Act in order to get some "terrorists." The issue here is not "is kiddie porn good or bad," the issue is whether the politicians are using "kiddie porn" as a front to erode the rights that you and I have.

Sure some websites host malware/kiddie-porn/etc, some torrents are pirated stuff, and some people are out to hurt other ppl to send some message, but not all of them are bad. 

There have been statistics that say that say 30% of blacks in the US have a chance to goto jail in their lifetimes. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/19/usa.garyyounge

Does this mean that we should send all blacks to jail because a higher-than-normal amount of them are already predicted to go to jail? NO IT DOES NOT.

If you still don't understand think of it this way: We could blowup whole neighboorhoods where there has been statistically high rates of crime. This however, will NOT stop crime but rather only result in the residents of those neighborrhoods out of a place to live.

Ross may never come back to read this comment but I hope it clears it up for someone who doesn't know

posted by : poopxxxxx, 22 July 2008 Complain about this comment
can't they trap the downloaders and prosecute instead?

Why not use the internet to prosecute the offenders? They've done this in the past, they should keep doing it.

posted by : interested_party, 23 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Clean internet now

Internet shouldn’t have porno at all. UN or other international assembly could do legal work. Anyone can put any picture on the wall in his own private room but not in public place such as internet. Go for uploaders.

posted by : wow2, 23 July 2008 Complain about this comment
So many idiots here

The nasty stuff is uploaded from countries that don't give a crap about illegal porn. So saying to go after the uploaders is pointless. To go after the downloaders would be to violate privacy rights. So in essence they decided to save a few bucks on bandwidth wasting usenet binaries under the guise of 'think of the children' and shut it all off. Is it right? Debateable. But I'm surprised Comcast even tried to avoid doing so since it does save them some cash and hassle. Perhaps they really did have some moral fibre after all (Yeah right).

posted by : Dick, 24 July 2008 Complain about this comment
Political Double talk

Look, we all (outside of the USA) know that the internet is a great learning tool.
Too many yanks are using it and seeing the political machinations of their government in other countries.
Americans have been blinkered in the past and again they shall be - their country is the centre of the known universe - nothing else matters.
Their peoples need to feel safe and if cutting off vast sections of the internet - lets say 60% to catch less than 1% of traffic then that is what needs to be done.
now we on the outside will watch this cancer spread and before too long the religious mobs will inflict the same on us all.

posted by : RogerP, 24 July 2008 Complain about this comment
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