Jen-Hsun Huang berates 'monopolistic' Intel - again

I'd like to see a low-power system with decent performance, and IMO the potential VIA/Nvidia platform would be a winner. The irony of such a platform using integrated graphics...

Chill out, Huang... Larrabee isn't going to kill you or anal probe you or anything.

It's amusing to see fanboys of both camps running around beating their chests and yelling at the top of the lungs about how great their side is at the moment and how the enemy "sucks". 
It's shows you that the PR bunnies in both Nvidia and ATI are doing a good job of promoting their products. 

I for one think Huang is more then a bit unnerved by the infospeak that Intel is putting out. You would think that he's never been in business before from the comments he's recently made. 
Of course Intel is going to "invade" the graphics domain they're behaving the way any megacorp behaves, look at M$, or ever farther back, GE/Westinghouse and AT&T and Standard Oil(now Exxon). Everything in sight is fair game and total market dominance is the only reasonable goal. Anything less and Intel's investors would lynch their board of directors. 

Also the $$ represented not only in the graphics field but the High-Performance Computing sector is more then an attractive inducement, so what if they had laughable graphics attempts in the past, doesn't mean they won't pull it off in the future. Look at AMD and how they practically came out of nowhere with the Athlon technology and had Intel running scared for a couple of years, till AMD tripped over it's own shoelaces and did a face plant.

Picture ATI and Nvidia as two sides in WW1 style trench warfare, both busy doing their hardest to defeat the other side and never looking up. Now envisage the enormous shadow of the Intel mothership rolling across their battlefield (aka in the style of Independence Day) and unleasing that beam weapon wiping the battlefield clear of both sides...
In case a lot of you are doubtful of Intel's clout have a look at http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/Tera-Scale/1449.htm

They may not have experience at the moment in GPU architecture, but that doesn't mean they won't having it in a few years, with the deep pockets they have they can hire whatever talent they want. Recall what happened to SGI in the late 90's and how Nvidia bought up their talent and look where Nvidia is today and what's left of SGI. 

Using a military paradigm, "Generals are always expecting to fight a future war in exactly the same way they fought the last war" and that's why they tend to lose the next war. WW1 comes clearly to mind. Huang as reason to worry if Intel is deadly serious about putting it's money where it's mouth is and pursues Terascale processing with zeal and I don't think he's all that naive to expect that it's going to be a tough battle ahead. AMD-ATI at the moment are not in a serious position to challenge Intel so its Nvidia which is squarely in the sights of Intel. 

BTW, I'm not an Intel fanboy, only consumer who has observed that things can change in the technology world in the blink of an eye. Nvidia is behaving in much the same way Intel was just before AMD introduced the Athlon and I think they're going to get a serious wake up call before all this is is over. I hope Nvidia and ATI realize just what would happen if Intel got really serious about graphics, as Huang mentions, Larrabee is a powerpoint slide at the moment, but tomorrow it could be a solid product in Intel's motherboard and a lot more quickly then they would expect. Arrogance and pride are two emotions Huang can't afford at the moment.

trying to hide the slow down of nvidia financial results?

Someone should remind JSH NOT to eat where you sh*t, he has obviously forgotten this...

Did that guy (in the pic) end up getting killed in the initial "Shock and Awe" campaign? I remember watching him as it was starting and laughing my a$$ off!! He was priceless! They should have saved him and put him on the USO tour! Killer stand-up routine!

nv4.sys STOP

Intel wanted Itanium and XScale. They got the picture, undrstood that CISC is a mistake. The problem is, that noone else wanted anything except x86...
Nice to know that Larrabee is a threat to NVidia, they look a bit monopolistic these days...

Mr. Nvidia there is just scared. If Intel manage to put a GPU into the CPU, even if it´s performance is ridiculous, all the mainstream line of computers will be lost. Cheap computer manufacturers will be able to make smaller and less complex motherboards which might save them few bucks that in the bigger picture would represent millions in savings. Nvidia and ATI would be stuck with higher end only, which is not as profitable as mainstream, because High end GPUs are too expensive to manufacture and sell with good profit.

"hehehe"

Thanks I got a good laugh out of it!

There is no Nvidia, There is No Daamit, There is no Intel, There is no world.. Where am i? :)

"That's a monopolistic feeling, right? "

Coming from the nVidia boss, considering the ruthless and unconcerned (even autistic) attitude nVidia evinced towards customers regarding driver and legacy support in the past * that seems like blatant hypocrisy. 

* (Which put me off their nForce chipsets for life.) (I hear their graphics drivers arent much cop either.)

Unless I misunderstood it sounds very much like he is blaming Intel for obstructing nVidias plan for world domination. 

Maybe its time for him to reflect on the teachings of the light of Asia. According to karmic philosphy, the pain he feels is a reflection of his own character, so the pain he finds when seeing Intel dominant is the pain he would inflict if he was dominant himself. 

That it apparently drives him crazy instructs us that if he did dominate the market, he would drive all of us crazy instead. Which, crazy though it may sound, I consider quite likely given my previous experience of nVidia customer support.

So do tell JHH I know which side my bread is buttered thankyou very much.

Maybe he should just stop whinging and do something useful instead.

They were locked out of next gen server platform by both Intel and AMD. Their bread-butter business is under threat.

If they jump the gun and opened up their GPU, and Larrabee is a dud, they'll look stupid. If they waited, and Larrabee isn't a dud, it'd be too late to do anything - no one would even bother to look at their chips even if they begged. 

Best strategy: trash talking intel and pray.

He's probably on to something. I'm sure that guy knows something about processor design. And like the Inq enjoys pointing out, x86 is a terrible design. He's just reiterating that with, granted, more emotion. 

I'm looking forward to seeing this competition heat up. If Intel can come up with a decent discrete part or maybe, finally, a decent integrated part, it's going to hurt nVidia. 

I see the light, for them, being in the mobile -read: phone- market. That's where the money will be made.