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Ipod doomed says Wozniak

It is just a fad
Wednesday, 8 October 2008, 10:34

APPLE FOUNDER Steve Wozniak has launched a stinging attack on the Ipod claiming that the gizmo was just another fad doomed to go the way of the Walkman and the hula-hoop.

He said that the Ipod has lived a long life at number one. But if you look back to transistor radios and Walkmans, they died out after a while. "When everyone has got one or two or three, they are on display everywhere, they get real cheap and don't sell as much", he said.

Woz also said that both Steve Jobs and him hated Apple fanboys who are too stupid to question anything the company does and defend its failures.

He said Steve and him hated the fact that Apple has become a bit of a religion. "Users influence the next generation and with a religion you're not allowed to challenge anything", he said.

Punters should be howling for blood when Apple cocks up and demanding changes not sitting on their spotty behinds, squeezing blackheads and praising Steve Jobs’ farts. We are paraphrasing Woz a bit there.

As far as the fanboys are concerned, Woz speaks heresy when he compares the Iphone SDK limitations to Google's Android.

He said that punters were not getting all they want when companies are proprietary and lock their products down. He said he would like to write some more powerful apps for the Iphone than you're allowed. µ

L’Inq
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Sour grapes

The Woz needs to get on with his life and stop living in the shadow of his former company. Obviously, if he were an actual industry seer, he'd have a successful company, not just prattle on as if he's still important or relevant.

posted by : BB, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
nice grammar

"Woz also said that both Steve Jobs and him hated ..."

Mr. Farrell, I know you are writing for a bunch of tech geeks, but even tech geeks can spot atrocious grammar.

Just because it is a conjunction doesn't change the subjective pronoun. Imagine the sentence without Steve Jobs:

"Woz also said that him hated ..."

I barf in your general direction, sir.

While I am here and complaining, I wish Mike Mageek would come back and Charlie Derangedman would return to his former job as busboy.

posted by : frustum, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Another fortune teller

So, the iPod is going to die out "after a while" ?
Man, what insight !
Is this guy jealous he's not on board anymore to bask in some of the warm fanbois radiation ?

posted by : Pascal Monett, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
3... 2... 1...

Countdown 'till Apple fanboy denial rants. "You made it all up! This article is fud! He never really said that about us! He loves us!"

Even your stinking messiah hates you.

posted by : Tim D, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
"Apple has become a bit of a religion"

Blasphemy! Blasphemy! Burn the heretic! Exterminate!

Make him breate benzine vapour and other chemicals so that he might die slowly! Oh hang on...

posted by : Bob Monkfish, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Ridiculous

Portable tape player -> portable CD player -> MP3 player.

The portable tape player is not dead, it evolved.


posted by : hoohoo, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
As if he's important or relevant..

"Obviously, if he were an actual industry seer, he'd have a successful company, not just prattle on as if he's still important or relevant."

Oh yeah, then go & explain "Bob" Cringely.
Sheesh, talk about irrelevant....

(Just kidding "Bob"! Bow,bow,bow...)

posted by : Grunchy, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Wow,

Charlie Derangedman! How sublime. But I wouldn't have it any other way. God I love this crap, lmao.

posted by : HolyCow, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Fanbois, gotta love them.

"Obviously, if he were an actual industry seer, he'd have a successful company, not just prattle on as if he's still important or relevant."

At least he's been important enough to warrant an interview. You on the other hand falls into the category of fanbois he and Jobs despise.
Oh, the irony

posted by : JTM, 08 October 2008 Complain about this comment
@ nice grammar

it is pathetic when all readers can pick at is grammar. It proves Wozniak was damn right about fartboys

posted by : ramses, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
>_<

"Portable tape player -> portable CD player -> MP3 player.

The portable tape player is not dead, it evolved. "

My thoughts exactly, no real insight here.

And holycow, the article isn't even by Charlie, bad troll.

posted by : Lachlan W, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Everything will fail

Everything will fail in the end, even us, so who are you going to moan at then God for creating us in the first place.. Get a life people

posted by : God, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
They ruined everything

I used to like being a PC user, then along came Apple and ruined everything. There was nothing I liked better than knowing more than the man in the street, how to address files in a certain way, how to do complicated tasks they couldn't fathom, PCs were cool like that. Being what they call a "tech head" was brilliant and made me feel superior. I used to scoff at low competancy morons who couldn't do it. Then along came Apple and made it "plug and play" "user friendly" nearh nearh nan nearh nearh! And everything looks so sexy on a Mac. I mean sex! What's that for Cripins sake? Suddenly you didn't need to prefix titles with code and you could put stuff where You wanted it and all that crap. It was too easy to use a computer all of a sudden, whose idea was that! And now the iPod. I hope it does die out. Yeah like they're going to keep innovating things. I hate Mac users, they're..... really cool and that isn't right. Damn it there's nothing to scoff at about Mac users anymore, everything they do is so damn cooooool!!!

posted by : Joe Blogger, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
iPod killing music

With the advent of the iPod and cell phone music, see the effect on pop music, which is now sounding more and more like a transister radio's music.
Bring back the 'Dansette' record player!.

posted by : Michael, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Needs to evolve

I agree that the Ipod has just been a development from the cassette player to the cd player to an mp3 player. What they have not done, as Creative have done, is to make it a portable hi-fi system with FM radio and a recorder built in. I wouldn't be without mine and given that I can plug it into my car's sound system and have hundreds of CDs available - it is just brilliant.... until the next development comes along.

posted by : John Green, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Duh!

Forgive me for stating the obvious but doesn't every product have a lifespan?

Is this guy captain obvious or something?

/fail

posted by : John, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Hopefully this means the death of I-Tunes Too

Forget about the Ipod. It is just tin.

Lets hope this is the end of I-tunes.
I-Tunes = Locked into Ipods poor functionality, Low quality recordings, and DRM (thankfully gone now). = being a muppet.

Steve jobs has nothing but encourage piracy by charging 99 cents or 99 pence in the UK for rubbish quality recordings. Financial incentive.

It is about time we payed a "universal music license" like the TV license. ~
The ISPs who monitor downloads could easily aportion the correct royalties to musicians in a fair way according to what was downloaded on a monthly basis.

Itunes = the greed of Jobs = the idiots who use it = Apple Fans

QED.

posted by : Owen, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Wozinak is right

But he forgets that people are mindless sheep and think a fancy scroll wheel is some sort of magic that makes the music sound better.

Ya. Apple has so many clueless people thinking they can do no wrong when they are getting ripped off.

I don't buy Ipods personally because I don't like the hardware, specifically their battery system on all of their hardware.

Someone has to make an Ipod killer and implement it right (Pointing and laughing at microsofts Zune) To really do damage to ipods market place.

If wozinak was that good he would make an ipod killer.

posted by : viscountalphav, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Evolution

Surely the whole point of an MP3 player is that you can fit more songs on than any other portable music device. In my opinion it won't die out as quickly as the portable CD player or mini-disc. They were both limited to one disc and with the technology we have now, mp3 players are only going to get bigger. Until something else comes along and blows the mp3 out of the water, (like what) your talking a load of tripe wozzer.

posted by : Vallers, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Poor little fanboys

Wow, imagine that, Apple Fanboys ragging on Woz for telling the truth - not all Apple products are good, in fact they're over-priced and are all style over functionality. Oh no, so Woz saying that they'll die out at some point MUST be herasy!

posted by : Phil A, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Who cares

Who cares about what happens to the iPod. The iPod is a microcosm of what goes on in our lives. I'd prefer to walk the dog or do something else with my time than play about with a gizmo all day! Just my 2p.

posted by : Dave, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Walkman is still going

I think he should have checked his facts because sonys Walkman is still going. It just taken on the MP3 player format rather than the old cassette format.

posted by : Mark D, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Hmmm

So Jobs doesn't like the fanbois treating Apple like a religion? Well then why doesn't he say so? Oh, yeah, cause he's selling second-rate products with mass-produced "designer" quality, at massively inflated prices, and why the hell else would anyone buy an ipod touch (for instance)?

Wozniak's gone a bit mental. I'm sure he's right about the ipod - it'll eventually be superceded, but probably by another apple product, like the iphone 4 or 5 (when they finally get it right and EVERYONE wants one). But saying Jobs doesn't like the fanbois? That may be true in private, but in public, Apple has always cultivated a "we're geeks, just like you, and isn't our product cool?" approach to PR, so I can't understand what he's up to.

posted by : Heh, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Won't everything fade?

Isn't it the nature of progress and competitive science and engineering that all forms of technology will eventually be superceeded? 

The walkman faded because of the invention of the personal CD player, that went the way of the Dodo when MP3 players arrived, and when somebody delivers a better medium than the Ipod, that too will fade. What's so impressive about Wozniaks insight here?

By the way, the grammer in the article was terrible. Just a heads up to the author.

posted by : Adam Webb, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Hmmmm

"But if you look back to transistor radios and Walkmans, they died out after a while."

It's a bit like saying: "Horses and carts died out, so the car is doomed!"

The fact is, the medium the iPod is built for (digital formats such as mp3/mp4) will last much longer than tapes/CDs. The iPod franchise may become stale, but if Apple is smart (which, let's be honest, they usually are) minor refinements will keep it afloat for as long as the medium lasts.

posted by : TK, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
fanbois?

I think that Woz used the word "fanboys" isn't the contraction "fanbois" taking us in another direction?

posted by : brasco, 09 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Apples are rotten

I wish I was a geek. I'm nearly one ... I have a USB turntable.
I am just coming to terms with CD-ROMs. I loved 8-track for the car. I think Wazniak is right; IPods’ are the compact cassette of the music revolution and will die soon.

posted by : Anthony, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Flawed

Wozniak's argument is so flawed. The Walkman and the transistor radio died out because they were superceded by better products such as the CD Walkman and the Mini-Disk player. The iPod will only 'die' if a better solution is found. People will always want portable music and media so it's not faddish at all.

posted by : CC, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
not my favorite device


Oh come on, iPod was simply just another test device to determine what compliant sheep the general populace is. With such a proprietary interface such as iTunes to muddle the process of simply listening to audio and watching video it simply proves what a hassle people are willing to put up with to get their "hip" fix and join the herd.

posted by : nyetwerke, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
no

no, I don't think, anyway, ipod is a great mp3 player, isn't it?

posted by : GolaYing, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Obviously

The Ipod is 'dead' already, in its original format. There are far superior devices in the market place and it does show that Apple are a bit of a one-trick pony when it comes to the mainstream. 

That said, they will always have their place and of course Apple styling is superb.

None of this is a revelation though!!

Ben

posted by : Ben Robinson, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
Dumb down

You guys don’t get it!

Millions of kids listen to low bitrate music on £20 headsets and think it’s great! They will never know the truth!

posted by : Ipcress, 10 October 2008 Complain about this comment
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