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First INQpressions Montevina notebooks
Fri Aug 01 2008, 09:19

INTEL'S MONTEVINA has finally come out - new FSB, graphics, wireless and all. The problems have seemingly been solved, and there are the machines for the users to play with. Except for the integrated 3-D, where AMD Puma and Nvidia still rule, this is the performance leader among notebooks today.

The new platform's faster FSB, memory and 3-D engine do help raise the bar for Intel-based integrated graphics notebooks. I won't repeat all the generic features here - plenty of online brochures and "copy paste" web sites do that. I'm interested in how high the overall performance delta is when comparing a Montevina IGP system with one using discrete graphics.

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I took a look at two early notebooks based on the new platform: one is a smallish (but still chubby due to its built-in DVD) Acer Aspire 2930, and the other one is larger, heavier Asus M50VM.

Both machines use 2.53 GHz FSB1066 Penryn-based 45 nm Core 2 Duo mobile CPU, with 4 GB of DDR2-800 CL6 memory in 2 modules (no, I didn't get a DDR3 Montevina yet), and are two-spindle units with HDD and optical drives built in. And yes, both run Vista - that's the reason why 4 GB is needed even without any apps running, I guess. That's where their similarities end.

The cute little Acer machine has a small 12.1 inch WXGA display, while the Asus shows off a 15.4 incher at that oddish WSXGA+, or 1680x1050 for saner minds, resolution. Why not simply go to the far more palatable 1920x1200 then?

Acer's display is, as you can guess, driven by the GMA4500 GPU in the GM45 Montevina chipset, while the Asus uses Nvidia mobile Geforce 9600M with 512 MB dedicated memory - guess not one of the fiery ones?

I ran a couple of benchmarks to compare the two souls separated by their " window (literally) to the world", one integrated, the other discrete. How do the 3DMark 06, PCMark Vantage, and Sandra memory tests handle the difference? 3DMark Vantage couldn't, as it simply didn't run on the GMA4500.

Here are some results:

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3Dmark06 GMA4500

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3Dmark06 Nforce 9600

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PCmark Vantage GMA4500

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PCmark Vantage Nforce 9600

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Sandra memory b/w GMA4500

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Sandra memory b/w Nforce 9600

As you can see, the 3D Mark result difference is still enormous - yes, the test passes but again the integrated graphics is really meant for on-the-road office and Net users who don't exactly plan to run Crysis on these. Both platforms handle HD video playback fine, by the way.

On the PC Mark side, the graphics does affect the final score, but not by much. As for Sandra, there is not even minor difference in the bandwidth results despite the IGP extra load.

In summary, any serious 3-D still calls for discrete graphics anyway. However, the system level benchmark results are moving closer to the desktop systems here, with a good reason - as the notebook market overtakes desktops in unit volumes this year, more and more users will have those notebooks as their main systems. ยต

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Aero Glass

Stupid question, but was Aero Glass turned on for the GMA, but not the Nvidia machine? That doesn't seem fair. I am not sure whether 3DMarks will disable Aero anyway when running, but if not there would be a continuous load on the 3D chip for compositing the desktop.

Naturally, I don't expect the GMA to come close, but it would be interesting to see the effect, if any.

posted by : CN, 04 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Amazing

Its amazing how an Inq article about laptops and graphics chips can still take a poke at Vista. Maybe they should have reinstalled and tried Linux for the benchmarking. Wait, does Linux have any benchmarks....

posted by : Jay, 03 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Fair comparison

It would have been much better , if other integrated IGP AMD and Nvidia solutions were compared as well. The total power drain could also be compared as main advantage of using IGP is power saving for the non gamers out there. IGP also keeps the BOM down for users who cannot to buy the latest and greatest of the display cards available.

posted by : sam, 03 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Consistency?

It appears as if you are running the Intel GMA4500 with Aero on and the nVIDIA 9600M with it off.

This should not make a huge difference at all, but seriously, try and make things slightly more fair.

posted by : Daza, 03 August 2008 Complain about this comment
certainly must be some mistake...

Eugene - GM3500 and Mobile 965 both do just fine with an external LCD @ 1920x1200. Might want to check your work again.

posted by : kris, 03 August 2008 Complain about this comment
Can GMA4500 do 1920x1200 on an external monitor?

Would you be able to verify this please? I want GMA4500 on my next notebook (instead of a separate video chip) since it saves power and produces less heat. But, I also want to be able to connect it to an external monitor on its native resolution. GMA3500 did not support 1920x1200 and maxed out at 1600x1200.

posted by : Eugene, 01 August 2008 Complain about this comment
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